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Yes, and next year Sony will deliver their Ultra "Z" series and people here will be saying the same thing about the Ultra when compared to the original "Z". Yes, it does get better but just how much better when compared to the cost of constantly upgrading. Considering my age I can rationalize upgrading every few months -- what's your reasoning besides just wanting the latest and greatest?
Unfortunately (or fortunately if it suits one's mentality and wallet), this is how business works these days when it comes to electronics, be it phones, gaming consoles, AVRs, televisions etc. It's going to be a constant upgrade cycle...
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Yes, and next year Sony will deliver their Ultra "Z" series and people here will be saying the same thing about the Ultra when compared to the original "Z". Yes, it does get better but just how much better when compared to the cost of constantly upgrading. Considering my age I can rationalize upgrading every few months -- what's your reasoning besides just wanting the latest and greatest?
I bought my 940D the week before Sony announced its new and improved replacement, the Z9. I never looked back. I have been ecstatically happy with the performance of my 940D and hope to have it for a good long time. That the newer and better but significantly more expensive Z9, is available, makes me no less happy with my 940D. If it ain't broke, don't fix it, I always say.
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Yes, and next year Sony will deliver their Ultra "Z" series and people here will be saying the same thing about the Ultra when compared to the original "Z". Yes, it does get better but just how much better when compared to the cost of constantly upgrading. Considering my age I can rationalize upgrading every few months -- what's your reasoning besides just wanting the latest and greatest?
The fact that I don't upgrade often is the reason I like to buy the best I can afford. I certainly can't afford the 75" Z right now. I also don't need a new tv right now. If the Z is going to be around for 18 months then I doubt they will be announcing a replacement in the next year. My plan, as of right now, is to wait until the end of the current Z and get it at a close-out price.
I am well aware that there will always be something better just around the corner. I also think the 940 is a great set and a great value. If I were buying a tv today and couldn't afford the Z, I would absolutely get the 940. I am still happy with my plasma and will patiently wait to get a Z when I am ready and can afford it.

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The fact that I don't upgrade often is the reason I like to buy the best I can afford. I certainly can't afford the 75" Z right now. I also don't need a new tv right now. If the Z is going to be around for 18 months then I doubt they will be announcing a replacement in the next year. My plan, as of right now, is to wait until the end of the current Z and get it at a close-out price.

I am well aware that there will always be something better just around the corner. I also think the 940 is a great set and a great value. If I were buying a tv today and couldn't afford the Z, I would absolutely get the 940. I am still happy with my plasma and will patiently wait to get a Z when I am ready and can afford it.


The 940D is better than my Panny 60VT60 and that's saying a lot. I'm sure the Z is phenomenal ... but the 940D is a stellar set as well. I'm content with my 940D.
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The 940D is better than my Panny 60VT60 and that's saying a lot. I'm sure the Z is phenomenal ... but the 940D is a stellar set as well. I'm content with my 940D.
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Is there anything settings wise you have to do to gain the benefits of HDR blurays?

I see the HDR picture mode but wasn't sure if that's a requirement or just has the colors cranked up.
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Is there anything settings wise you have to do to gain the benefits of HDR blurays?

I see the HDR picture mode but wasn't sure if that's a requirement or just has the colors cranked up.
You have to set the HDMI input the blu ray player is connected to to "Enhanced format".

When HDR is detected the HDR Picture mode is selected automatically. "Cranking up the colors" is not a thing.
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Is there anything settings wise you have to do to gain the benefits of HDR blurays?

I see the HDR picture mode but wasn't sure if that's a requirement or just has the colors cranked up.
As you noticed, the display automatically switches to HDR picture mode. Several settings are turned on in this mode, like contrast is set to max, X-tended dynamic range is set to High, and I believe Live Color is turned on. These are the settings Sony thinks are appropriate for HDR.

Since there really isn't a method for a DIY calibration of HDR at this time, it is hard to say if any other settings might improve PQ. For the time being, my recommendation would be to accept the default HDR settings and enjoy it.
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Brickyardz was telling me that the Sony is going to do a firmware upgrade sometime in the future to their 2016 HDR sets and upgrade HDR to new improved Dynamic HDR. That is exciting news for Sony 940D owners don't you think?
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Brickyardz was telling me that the Sony is going to do a firmware upgrade sometime in the future to their 2016 HDR sets and upgrade HDR to new improved Dynamic HDR. That is exciting news for Sony 940D owners don't you think?
Yes, that IS exciting news! For one of the "complaints" of critics of the 940D is that it doesn't meet the HDR standards of 1,000 nits or higher. This should bring it within the range of displays that do meet those standards, including the new Z9D.

One has to ask the question, "Why is Sony willing to this when it may dissuade people from picking the Z9D over the 940D when one of the Z9D's greatest differences is its ability to achieve a peak brightness well over 1,000 nits?" I could envision this response from Sony (or others), "Yes, giving the 940D Dynamic HDR would make it more comparable to the Z9D, but the Z9D still has a much greater FALD system which prevents blooming/halos/light-bleed, something that the 940D isn't capable of." In theory this argument would be valid, for most of you saw the terrible case I had of light-bleed while watching a HDR Blu-ray (Concussion) and it may very well have occurred because of the 940D's inability to handle that much light.

Before I close this post, I have to apologize to AustinJerry for bringing up my experience with light-bleeding once again.

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While I'm online, I thought I should mention that I spent over an hour last night watching 4K loops from LG, Samsung and others on the YouTube app. There is some AMAZING stuff for us to view out there!! I was especially mesmerized by watching LG's loops...one of them was featuring the distribution of "light" against a completely "dark background" and it really showed how good the 940D's black levels really are!!! Of course, I could tell that they aren't "perfect" like an OLED, but they are quite satisfying.

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Brickyardz was telling me that the Sony is going to do a firmware upgrade sometime in the future to their 2016 HDR sets and upgrade HDR to new improved Dynamic HDR. That is exciting news for Sony 940D owners don't you think?
Where did this news come from?

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But it is exciting news!
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But it is exciting news!
Yeah it needs something official to back it up though..

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Before I close this post, I have to apologize to AustinJerry for bringing up my experience with light-bleeding once again.
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As you noticed, the display automatically switches to HDR picture mode. Several settings are turned on in this mode, like contrast is set to max, X-tended dynamic range is set to High, and I believe Live Color is turned on. These are the settings Sony thinks are appropriate for HDR.

Since there really isn't a method for a DIY calibration of HDR at this time, it is hard to say if any other settings might improve PQ. For the time being, my recommendation would be to accept the default HDR settings and enjoy it.
Thanks. I use the Xbox One S and it is actually detecting many of the modes not available on my TV though it does mention that connecting to a receiver can cause that. The TV is not automatically switching over to HDR mode when I put on a UHD bluray. It's definitely in a 4k resolution but when I manually turn on HDR from the Picture Mode it does not look good. A lot of grainy artifacts in solid colors.

I'll have to play with it a bit. I even fired up Mad Max and it warned me it would be best viewed on an HDR TV so maybe some information from the bluray isn't getting passed up to the TV? I have a new Yamaha RX-A660 and everything goes into the receiver. That is then terminated on HDMI 4 on the 940D.

Thanks a lot for the help so far.
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I should also mention that I do have Extended turned on the HDMI4 port.
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Brickyardz messaged me the info! He knows the source so maybe he can get on here and tell you everything he knows !
But it is exciting news!
I know he's been online since you posted this, because he's been "liking" different posts on other sites. So, you should shoot him a PM and tell him to get over to this thread and tell us everything he knows!

FWIW, I did an extensive Search regarding this possible Firmware Update and I couldn't find a thing.

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Brickyardz was telling me that the Sony is going to do a firmware upgrade sometime in the future to their 2016 HDR sets and upgrade HDR to new improved Dynamic HDR. That is exciting news for Sony 940D owners don't you think?
Can someone point me to a description of "Dynamic" HDR? My quick search didn't find anything.
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Can someone point me to a description of "Dynamic" HDR? My quick search didn't find anything.
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I know he's been online since you posted this, because he's been "liking" different posts on other sites. So, you should shoot him a PM and tell him to get over to this thread and tell us everything he knows!

FWIW, I did an extensive Search regarding this possible Firmware Update and I couldn't find a thing.
sorry for saying something before I had all the facts! Brickyardz told me about this in a message! Hopefully he can explain it further.
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sorry for saying something before I had all the facts! Brickyardz told me about this in a message! Hopefully he can explain it further.
Okay, I just found a discussion about this "possible" Dynamic HDR Firmware Update over in the 930C/940C Thread. But guess what? They are all saying, "At this point it's all SPECULATION." I'm hoping this isn't the "source" that Brickyardz is using to inform you of Sony's future update, for if it is it's useless.

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Okay, I just found a discussion about this "possible" Dynamic HDR Firmware Update over in the 930C/940C Thread. But guess what? They are all saying, "At this point it's all SPECULATION." I'm hoping this isn't the "source" that Brickyardz is using to inform you of Sony's future update, for if it is it's useless.
sorry if it is completely useless! Guess it is a wait and see! It would be a bummer if a new improved version of HDR comes out and Sony does not do a firmware update !
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Wish I could tell you more! Brickyardz where are you?
It just occurred to me...do you think it's possible that Brickyardz is actually sitting down and watching his 940D (and thus he's oblivious to our desire to hear from him)? If that's the case, how selfish of him when he should be TALKING about his display and not actually WATCHING it.

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it just occurred to me...do you think it's possible that brickyardz is actually sitting down and watching his 940d (and thus he's oblivious to our desire to hear from him)? If that's the case, how selfish of him when he should be talking about his display and not actually watching it.
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Yes, that IS exciting news! For one of the "complaints" of critics of the 940D is that it doesn't meet the HDR standards of 1,000 nits or higher. This should bring it within the range of displays that do meet those standards, including the new Z9D.

One has to ask the question, "Why is Sony willing to this when it may dissuade people from picking the Z9D over the 940D when one of the Z9D's greatest differences is its ability to achieve a peak brightness well over 1,000 nits?" I could envision this response from Sony (or others), "Yes, giving the 940D Dynamic HDR would make it more comparable to the Z9D, but the Z9D still has a much greater FALD system which prevents blooming/halos/light-bleed, something that the 940D isn't capable of." In theory this argument would be valid, for most of you saw the terrible case I had of light-bleed while watching a HDR Blu-ray (Concussion) and it may very well have occurred because of the 940D's inability to handle that much light.

Before I close this post, I have to apologize to AustinJerry for bringing up my experience with light-bleeding once again.
Sony may "not" be willing to do this and if a new improved HDR comes out, it will be only on the newer sets down the road! That would be pretty depressing ! But could happen. So it may take awhile before we find out anything for certain! I just don't know enough!
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Yes, that IS exciting news! For one of the "complaints" of critics of the 940D is that it doesn't meet the HDR standards of 1,000 nits or higher. This should bring it within the range of displays that do meet those standards, including the new Z9D.



One has to ask the question, "Why is Sony willing to this when it may dissuade people from picking the Z9D over the 940D when one of the Z9D's greatest differences is its ability to achieve a peak brightness well over 1,000 nits?" I could envision this response from Sony (or others), "Yes, giving the 940D Dynamic HDR would make it more comparable to the Z9D, but the Z9D still has a much greater FALD system which prevents blooming/halos/light-bleed, something that the 940D isn't capable of." In theory this argument would be valid, for most of you saw the terrible case I had of light-bleed while watching a HDR Blu-ray (Concussion) and it may very well have occurred because of the 940D's inability to handle that much light.



Before I close this post, I have to apologize to AustinJerry for bringing up my experience with light-bleeding once again.


Have you ruled out whether the light bleed is in the source? There are a few known poorly encoded UHD/HDR blue rays out there.


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