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My recommendations:

1. Turn off the auto picture mode setting.
2. Configure your favorite picture mode (e.g. Custom) with the settings you like.
3. Configure all your HDMI inputs, as well as the TV apps, to use the Custom picture mode. This way there is uniformity as you switch from one input to another.
4. When viewing HDR content, the display will switch to HDR mode. There are some settings you can adjust while in HDR mode, others that you can't. Live with it.
Do you have any recommended calibration settings for HDR mode? I'm using your Custom settings now but was curious if you had any specific settings for HDR-mode. Thanks!
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Do you have any recommended calibration settings for HDR mode? I'm using your Custom settings now but was curious if you had any specific settings for HDR-mode. Thanks!
There are no consumer tools available yet to perform an HDR calibration, so no, I have no recommendations at this time. Besides, I am still on the fence regarding which UHD player to buy, so my only HDR content source at this time is what is available on Netflix.
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I'm getting my 940d in a couple of days. What is the recommended UHD Blu-ray player? I was about to get an Xbox One S but it sounds like it can't play a number of movies :-\.
I have the Philips BDP7501 UHD player and it works great! I currently own 10 UHD/HDR movies and they all play fine...I'm also planning to buy up to 10 more in the next couple of months and I trust they'll all play fine (I am experiencing light-bleed on some of the discs but I can't imagine that this is the fault of the player...it's either the discs themselves or my display). The Philips doesn't have a lot of "bells & whistles" but it gets the job done in good fashion when it comes to PQ!

I read that the Oppo will be releasing their UHD player by the end of the year for only $499! That would be an amazing price for an Oppo (and quite a bit less than the Panasonic). If I get another 4K tv I will be buying that for my 940D and I'll keep the Philips for my second display.

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So I'm enjoying my xbr75x940d but I'm seeing some issues and not sure how to correct them if possible. I mostly use my TV with an Xbox One S so not sure if it's something on there or the TV itself. I notice when on the dashboard of the system colors are darker and more uniform. When I run an application like netflix the screen will flicker like its changing inputs and then colors will change. I think it does this because it's a native 4K application, as when running the UHD blu-ray player it does this as well but no other applications that aren't 4K do this. Has anyone with this setup noticed this or anyone have any ideas what would be causing this? I do run everything through a yamaha RX-V679

If I look at the display settings it looks like it's keeping my settings but colors are definitely different, almost unwatchable as certain colors look horrible (whites mostly). Maybe my xbox hates sony? lol jk
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So I'm enjoying my xbr75x940d but I'm seeing some issues and not sure how to correct them if possible. I mostly use my TV with an Xbox One S so not sure if it's something on there or the TV itself. I notice when on the dashboard of the system colors are darker and more uniform. When I run an application like netflix the screen will flicker like its changing inputs and then colors will change. I think it does this because it's a native 4K application, as when running the UHD blu-ray player it does this as well but no other applications that aren't 4K do this. Has anyone with this setup noticed this or anyone have any ideas what would be causing this? I do run everything through a yamaha RX-V679

If I look at the display settings it looks like it's keeping my settings but colors are definitely different, almost unwatchable as certain colors look horrible (whites mostly). Maybe my xbox hates sony? lol jk
I would double-check to see it the display is switching picture modes. That could easily explain what the PQ is changing.
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It's not changing pictures modes far as I can tell, looking at display settings it's indeed set to custom w/ all my settings intact even have auto picture mode off. I saw someone mention something about HDR enabling maybe since the system supports that it's turning on HDR and changing my color settings? If so why would it do that? I do have all my HDMI ports to dynamic auto should I try full instead?
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It's not changing pictures modes far as I can tell, looking at display settings it's indeed set to custom w/ all my settings intact even have auto picture mode off. I saw someone mention something about HDR enabling maybe since the system supports that it's turning on HDR and changing my color settings? If so why would it do that? I do have all my HDMI ports to dynamic auto should I try full instead?
HDR is actually a picture mode. So if you are seeing "Custom" as the picture mode, it has not switched to HDR mode.

What is "dynamic" mode? HDMI has "standard" and "enhanced" mode.
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Yeah than I have no idea why it's doing this then guess it's not HDR, very well could be xbox related which is horrible. Makes netflix and anything UHD unwatchable imo. Not sure the proper term but whites bleed or whatever, for example on a show when someone opens a fridge the whites are so bright you can hardly see what's in the fridge cause it's to bright. Again only happens when the system changes to an app that can handle 4K video.
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Yeah than I have no idea why it's doing this then guess it's not HDR, very well could be xbox related which is horrible. Makes netflix and anything UHD unwatchable imo. Not sure the proper term but whites bleed or whatever, for example on a show when someone opens a fridge the whites are so bright you can hardly see what's in the fridge cause it's to bright. Again only happens when the system changes to an app that can handle 4K video.
You have options to watch 4K content that doesn't involve the xbox, like using the Netflix or Amazon app on the TV. What else have you tried, and are they poor PQ as well?
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Seems to be the same when viewing a 4K app on there as well (Netflix) wonder if it's a display setting or something. I used these settings for the most part (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...20Settings.pdf)
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About to pull the trigger on a 940D and was wondering what you guys thought about getting an extended warranty? Good idea? Which one is best? Stuff like that.
Never spent so much on a single piece of video or audio equipment in my life so I'm kinda concerned. Thanks.
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Seems to be the same when viewing a 4K app on there as well (Netflix) wonder if it's a display setting or something. I used these settings for the most part (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...20Settings.pdf)
Something is wrong then.
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So finally started messing around with this more after annoying me for couple days now. Still not sure whats up but seems when I'm in these apps if I put on HDR picture mode from my normal custom settings the colors adjust to what I normally see outside the apps. Fix but not ideal...
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There are no consumer tools available yet to perform an HDR calibration, so no, I have no recommendations at this time. Besides, I am still on the fence regarding which UHD player to buy, so my only HDR content source at this time is what is available on Netflix.
I think in about 2 1/2 months I'd get the new Oppo UHD player! And don't look back!
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I read it was only going to cost $499. That's a STEAL for an Oppo.
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My tv auto select 3D for guardian of galaxy. How to I stop this from happening? The movie doesn't have the option to turn it off.
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The new Oppo UHD player is also supposed to come with MQA for Audio as well...I was told by Oppo....But wow for $500that would be a steal for sure...I also really like their DAC/Headphone amp...

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It's not changing pictures modes far as I can tell, looking at display settings it's indeed set to custom w/ all my settings intact even have auto picture mode off. I saw someone mention something about HDR enabling maybe since the system supports that it's turning on HDR and changing my color settings? If so why would it do that? I do have all my HDMI ports to dynamic auto should I try full instead?
I spent hours trying to figure out the HDR mode stuff.. I could not get HDR sources to "trigger" the 940D into HDR mode, and when you have an HDR source playing, but the 940D is not in HDR mode, the colors looked terrible (very washed out).. Neither the Xbox one S or the Philips UHD 4k blu ray player would trigger HDR on the 940D. Long story short, it ended up being a setting on my Yamaha Receiver - I enabled "HDMI Control" on the Yamaha receiver, and now the 940D is properly triggered into HDR mode when an HDR source is played. The colors look great.

I also had one instance where the 940D where it was "Stuck" in HDR Mode, which made non-HDR sources look crazy bright - not good at all. I ended up pulling the power for the 940D, waiting a minute, then plugging it back in which fixed it being stuck in HDR mode.

Press "Action Menu" on the remote then go to "Picture Adjustments" and you can see which mode the TV is currently in. I use "Custom" (using AustinJerry's settings), and then when an HDR source is played, the 940D should automatically switch to "HDR" mode. Once you switch back to a non-HDR source, the 940D goes back into my "Custom" mode automatically.

All seems to be well now.
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I spent hours trying to figure out the HDR mode stuff.. I could not get HDR sources to "trigger" the 940D into HDR mode, and when you have an HDR source playing, but the 940D is not in HDR mode, the colors looked terrible (very washed out).. Neither the Xbox one S or the Philips UHD 4k blu ray player would trigger HDR on the 940D. Long story short, it ended up being a setting on my Yamaha Receiver - I enabled "HDMI Control" on the Yamaha receiver, and now the 940D is properly triggered into HDR mode when an HDR source is played. The colors look great.

I also had one instance where the 940D where it was "Stuck" in HDR Mode, which made non-HDR sources look crazy bright - not good at all. I ended up pulling the power for the 940D, waiting a minute, then plugging it back in which fixed it being stuck in HDR mode.

Press "Action Menu" on the remote then go to "Picture Adjustments" and you can see which mode the TV is currently in. I use "Custom" (using AustinJerry's settings), and then when an HDR source is played, the 940D should automatically switch to "HDR" mode. Once you switch back to a non-HDR source, the 940D goes back into my "Custom" mode automatically.

All seems to be well now.
That's good info. I too have a Yamaha receiver (A660) but am having trouble with the automatic flip to HDR mode with the Xbox One S and HDR UHD discs. When I fire up Mad Max the bluray actually warns me it is designed to be played on a HDR TV. If I hook the Xbox up directly to the 940D then it has no issues.

I'll verify HDMI control is enabled when I'm home tonight otherwise I may have to contact Yamaha since it's supposed to be a direct passthru.
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That's good info. I too have a Yamaha receiver (A660) but am having trouble with the automatic flip to HDR mode with the Xbox One S and HDR UHD discs. When I fire up Mad Max the bluray actually warns me it is designed to be played on a HDR TV. If I hook the Xbox up directly to the 940D then it has no issues.

I'll verify HDMI control is enabled when I'm home tonight otherwise I may have to contact Yamaha since it's supposed to be a direct passthru.
Check page 104 of your A660 owner's manual on how to switch HDMI 4K signal format to "Mode 1" (default is Mode 2).
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I just set up a 940D, connected its HDMI (ARC) input to the Monitor Out on my non-4k-capable Denon 4520, and set HDMI Control to "On" in my receiver. My thinking was I can use the apps on the 4520 to get 4K video and send the audio to my receiver. I didn't actually try to play any 4k content, but when I turned on the 940D this morning using the component output from my Dish PVR, I got all these nasty messages about not having a compliant device/connection in the chain. Those went away when I ran through the HDMI on my receiver, but I usually watch daytime programming without my receiver on.

I turned the HDMI control back to "Off," and everything was fine. I might be able to fix the problem by setting the HDMI pass through on my receiver, but it leads to this question: I have other sources to access Netflix and Amazon, but none of them are 4k or HDR-capable. I can't use them to play 4k content, right?
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Many thanks to you AustinJerry for your generous time and skills to provide us fellow X940D owners with a way to hit the ground running with these fabulous displays. I've had mine now for a little over a week and look forward to watching it like it was the first time.

As a part of my package with Best Buy they are scheduled to come back out in a few weeks to do an ISF calibration on the display and it's my guess that it won't change all that much from your personal calibration.
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Like with the current generation Oppo's, I suspect we will see two versions of their UHD player, with a more expensive model having premium audio features. If MQA is offered, it wouldn't surprise me to see it only on the premium player, which is likely to be considerably more expensive than $500. Purely conjecture at this point.
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I spent hours trying to figure out the HDR mode stuff.. I could not get HDR sources to "trigger" the 940D into HDR mode, and when you have an HDR source playing, but the 940D is not in HDR mode, the colors looked terrible (very washed out).. Neither the Xbox one S or the Philips UHD 4k blu ray player would trigger HDR on the 940D. Long story short, it ended up being a setting on my Yamaha Receiver - I enabled "HDMI Control" on the Yamaha receiver, and now the 940D is properly triggered into HDR mode when an HDR source is played. The colors look great.

I also had one instance where the 940D where it was "Stuck" in HDR Mode, which made non-HDR sources look crazy bright - not good at all. I ended up pulling the power for the 940D, waiting a minute, then plugging it back in which fixed it being stuck in HDR mode.

Press "Action Menu" on the remote then go to "Picture Adjustments" and you can see which mode the TV is currently in. I use "Custom" (using AustinJerry's settings), and then when an HDR source is played, the 940D should automatically switch to "HDR" mode. Once you switch back to a non-HDR source, the 940D goes back into my "Custom" mode automatically.

All seems to be well now.
So looks like this MIGHT be my issue, I turned of HDMI controller on my Yamaha because anytime I turned it on or had devices turn on at the sametime it would always try and go into an AV audio rather than the HDMI input audio (Seems alot of people had this issue and turned it off to fix). Also I notice when I go back from HDR mode to custom when closing an app the TV would seem to freak out and stick on a white snow screen and I'd have to switch inputs back and forth.
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So looks like this MIGHT be my issue, I turned of HDMI controller on my Yamaha because anytime I turned it on or had devices turn on at the sametime it would always try and go into an AV audio rather than the HDMI input audio (Seems alot of people had this issue and turned it off to fix). Also I notice when I go back from HDR mode to custom when closing an app the TV would seem to freak out and stick on a white snow screen and I'd have to switch inputs back and forth.
So I thought this might have fixed it but looks more like it was a temporary thing as now it's back to not switching with HDMI control on my Yamaha receiver. I disconnected the xbox one s from the receiver and directly connected it to the xbr75x940d and anytime HDR content is used I have to manually set the mode to HDR or the colors looked washed. Anyone else with any HDR content running into this issue? I don't think it's the xbox or my receiver as I tried the xbox on my friends samsung which has HDR and doesn't have an issue auto displaying, would a bad cable cause it not to auto switch on this model?
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Check page 104 of your A660 owner's manual on how to switch HDMI 4K signal format to "Mode 1" (default is Mode 2).
That did it, thank you so much for that! My previous Pioneer exposed all of the settings right away. Suppose everyone is different.
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As a part of my package with Best Buy they are scheduled to come back out in a few weeks to do an ISF calibration on the display and it's my guess that it won't change all that much from your personal calibration.
When the Geek Squad delivered and set up my 940D one of them turned to me and asked me if I wanted him to come back for an ISF calibration (he's been certified for years). But at one point during the set up he said, "Your display will look so awesome after a calibration, especially with the Local Dimming turned off." I was speechless (for two seconds) when he said that and finally responded with, "Why in the world would you do that?" He said, "Because I sincerely believe ALL enhancements should be disabled." I ended up telling him, "No thanks on the calibration." Everything I've ever read and heard about FALD assures me that he doesn't know what he's doing by disabling it.

So, if you are going to have BB do a calibration, make sure the calibrator doesn't have the same mindset as the one I just mentioned. You do NOT want to disable your FALD!
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When the Geek Squad delivered and set up my 940D one of them turned to me and asked me if I wanted him to come back for an ISF calibration (he's been certified for years). But at one point during the set up he said, "Your display will look so awesome after a calibration, especially with the Local Dimming turned off." I was speechless (for two seconds) when he said that and finally responded with, "Why in the world would you do that?" He said, "Because I sincerely believe ALL enhancements should be disabled." I ended up telling him, "No thanks on the calibration." Everything I've ever read and heard about FALD assures me that he doesn't know what he's doing by disabling it.

So, if you are going to have BB do a calibration, make sure the calibrator doesn't have the same mindset as the one I just mentioned. You do NOT want to disable your FALD!
Wow! Turn off Local Dimming. Why didn't I think of that? Inspires confidence, doesn't it?
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When the Geek Squad delivered and set up my 940D one of them turned to me and asked me if I wanted him to come back for an ISF calibration (he's been certified for years). But at one point during the set up he said, "Your display will look so awesome after a calibration, especially with the Local Dimming turned off." I was speechless (for two seconds) when he said that and finally responded with, "Why in the world would you do that?" He said, "Because I sincerely believe ALL enhancements should be disabled." I ended up telling him, "No thanks on the calibration." Everything I've ever read and heard about FALD assures me that he doesn't know what he's doing by disabling it.

So, if you are going to have BB do a calibration, make sure the calibrator doesn't have the same mindset as the one I just mentioned. You do NOT want to disable your FALD!
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Wow! Turn off Local Dimming. Why didn't I think of that? Inspires confidence, doesn't it?
I am flummoxed by the notion that anybody with an ISF certification could fail to appreciate what FALD does for the PQ of LCD displays.

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I am flummoxed by the notion that anybody with an ISF certification could fail to appreciate what FALD does for the PQ of LCD displays.
I'm flummoxed by anyone thinking it's a good idea to get a calibration done by Geek Squad.
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