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post #2821 of 13193 Old 06-17-2016, 10:00 PM
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Am I supposed to have banding to some degree on this TV?

I played some tests videos and there's two vertical line on the TV.

They both appear to be the same distance apart, about a foot and a half from the left edge and right edge.

There also appears to be a darker circle in the top left quadrant.

Do all of these have some dirty screen effect to some degree?

I think I'm going to go to BB tomorrow and have them process an exchange.

That bright spot on the screen is bothering the heck out of me more than the banding that is mostly visible from an angle.

This sucks. I don't see it on 4k content, but I see on cable on very light shots like during panning shots on house hunters on HGTV. Now that I've seen it, I can't unseen it.

I didn't realize that Sony had panel lotteries like Samsung did. Hopefully this was a fluke.
All manufacturers have panel lotteries of some kind. Sorry to burst your bubble on that one.
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Guys, I'm really grappling with something that I need advice on.

I got the x940d at the Sony-discounted price in Canada, and I paid for the Best Buy Geek Squad warranty on it. 3 year warranty which works out to a bit more than 15 times the $99 Square Trade warranty some of you are getting in the US. I have the first year of warranty covered through Sony, the second year of coverage through my credit card, so I'm essentially paying all that money for a warranty that is for the second+1 day up until the third year of TV ownership. That's insane, isn't it? The warranty is 19% of the price of the TV. If something does go wrong with it in the coverage period, would I even be spending that kind of money to fix it?

What are "normal" repair bills on a tv like this?
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Anybody have any settings yet? I have motion set to true cinema and cinemotion to off. anybody else have any takes?
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Anybody have any settings yet? I have motion set to true cinema and cinemotion to off. anybody else have any takes?
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Same here.
Well, have a significant bit of news to report. As has been commented on by me and others here, I was having really poor results using the 4k Sammy to play standard Blu ray disks running the video directly in to the Sony XBR940D and the audio into my Integra 80.3 pre-pro (no 4k pass through capability). Tried everything. So picked up a new Marantz 7702 Mk2pre pro and set it up last night (and this morning). Results: the shimmering, orange skin tones are gone! Standard Blu-rays look extremely good. Can't say that it beats the Oppo 103D, but the picture is very good and I am quite pleased. I am a bit confused as I could understand problems if I tried to run the video through the non-4k pass through receiver via HDMI, but my video was going directly into the Sony 940D. But hey - it works. I don't care if its technology or magic. I'm a happy camper. And I have already reprogrammed my Logitech Harmony 1100 so my wonderful wife who does not run for baseball bats when I do stuff like this can once again operate the TV!

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We sit @ 12ft too. I got rid of a 70", partly because it too small. Both wife and I thought so. I was afraid 5" wasn't enough of a size jump. I was wrong - this thing is perfect. 4K is crystal clear night n day from 1080p. As Ive been saying for 2 years, the 4K distance charts are FOS. I'm glad I didn't fork for the 85" 850D as I know I would have been disappointed with the PQ.
We sit 13 feet away which is why I want a 75 inch TV, but I am still debating between the x940D and LG B6 OLED 65 inch. Anyone have advice? Thanks.
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There is NO way I'd be happy with a 65 @ 13ft.

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She seriously thinks it's too big. She actually wants me to reconsider the 65 930D.

Ill get a divorce before that happens.
Umm ... You do realize at the end of the divorce who is going to end up with the tv and the wall it is hung up on don't you ? Though I'm sure she will let you keep that photo of it hanging there !
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We sit 13 feet away which is why I want a 75 inch TV, but I am still debating between the x940D and LG B6 OLED 65 inch. Anyone have advice? Thanks.
I've been grappling with the same issue, except that I'm considering the LG E6 65" vs. the 940D. I currently have a 75" in a den, sitting about 9 1/2 feet away (having returned my original 65" because it didn't give me that WOW immersive experience; it's last year's 910c, by the way, which I bought for its sleek aesthetics. I've been very happy with the viewing experience at 9 1/2 feet away. It does have some blooming on a black screen when credits roll, but I've learned to live with that).

Now, for this dilemma for my 2nd TV, which will be in the living room - a more "design-y" room - viewing will be from 10 1/2 feet, so about a foot farther away than in the den. It should be a no brainer, right? (I returned a 65" in the smaller room, so why buy a 65' in the larger room?)

The reason is purely the aesthetics of not having a 75" TV be a "looming" presence in a more formal room as opposed to a den.

So I've spent oodles of time at BB, thinking that the only way that I'd downsize to a 65" TV would be for a TV whose PQ was the best on the market, hence, OLED. I can buy the 65" OLED and swap it out for the 75" 940D if I find that the 65" doesn't WOW me in the living room - but I'm really trying to avoid that.

My gut tells me that I'll have the same reaction that I had when my original 65" TV was unpackaged in the den. I knew immediately that it was too small and that I would never be satisfied with it. Turning it on confirmed the inevitable conclusion that it was going back. I'm slightly holding onto the possibility that turning on the OLED will be such a transformative experience that I would be satisfied with downsizing to the 65". But the 940D is a pretty great TV and even if the OLED is a little better, I sense that the 5% better PQ of the OLED won't compensate for the drop from 75" to 65".

So I'm leaning towards the 940D.

Curious if anyone else wishes to weigh in.
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I've been grappling with the same issue, except that I'm considering the LG E6 65" vs. the 940D. I currently have a 75" in a den, sitting about 9 1/2 feet away (having returned my original 65" because it didn't give me that WOW immersive experience; it's last year's 910c, by the way, which I bought for its sleek aesthetics. I've been very happy with the viewing experience at 9 1/2 feet away. It does have some blooming on a black screen when credits roll, but I've learned to live with that).

Now, for this dilemma for my 2nd TV, which will be in the living room - a more "design-y" room - viewing will be from 10 1/2 feet, so about a foot farther away than in the den. It should be a no brainer, right? (I returned a 65" in the smaller room, so why buy a 65' in the larger room?)

The reason is purely the aesthetics of not having a 75" TV be a "looming" presence in a more formal room as opposed to a den.

So I've spent oodles of time at BB, thinking that the only way that I'd downsize to a 65" TV would be for a TV whose PQ was the best on the market, hence, OLED. I can buy the 65" OLED and swap it out for the 75" 940D if I find that the 65" doesn't WOW me in the living room - but I'm really trying to avoid that.

My gut tells me that I'll have the same reaction that I had when my original 65" TV was unpackaged in the den. I knew immediately that it was too small and that I would never be satisfied with it. Turning it on confirmed the inevitable conclusion that it was going back. I'm slightly holding onto the possibility that turning on the OLED will be such a transformative experience that I would be satisfied with downsizing to the 65". But the 940D is a pretty great TV and even if the OLED is a little better, I sense that the 5% better PQ of the OLED won't compensate for the drop from 75" to 65".

So I'm leaning towards the 940D.

Curious if anyone else wishes to weigh in.
I'm also leaning towards the 940D for the same reason. If we sat a lot closer, than I think I would go with an OLED, but I feel like at 13 feet, 65 inches is too small and I have room for 75 inches. By the way, I also had the 910C and returned it to wait for the 940D. I thought the 910C was great for good source material like blu-rays, YouTube 4k and high quality Netflix streams, but was not happy at all with most DirecTV channels. I'm assuming the 940D will be better. I wonder though how much of my perception was going from a prior 60 inch to 75 inch TV which magnifies flaws in the picture?

Another issue is DolbyVision support, but I haven't heard any definite evidence that its superior to HDR-10 for high end TVs.
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On several occasions over the last several days, I have launched The Netflix app only to have the TV crash and reboot as the app is loading. Has anyone else had occurrences of the TV crashing and rebooting for no reason?
Has never happened to me, until this morning (first time I've opened Netflix in a couple of days).

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Has never happened to me, until this morning (first time I've opened Netflix in a couple of days).
Has happened to me once or twice. I turned off Automatic Updates just in case its rebooting due to updating.
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Anybody have any settings yet? I have motion set to true cinema and cinemotion to off. anybody else have any takes?
If you happen to check out AutinJerry's signature, he has two separate lists of settings, they are fantastic!

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Yep, every model made these days. Even the good old plasma displays had issues, not many but they did. What a technology that was let go
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Does everyone have dark corners on light screens on their 940d? I sure do!

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^^ yes, every 940D, and almost every LCD will have dark corners.
Dudn't bother me a bit.
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thanks, makes me feel better. Also, on the lighter screens when navigating menus (not when watching content) I have unusual large black shadows, especially on the left side of the screen (the lighter blue screens are not smooth and uniform at all). But again, I don't notice a shadows when content is playing. Has anyone noticed this as well? Sorry, but I'm under the return policy time now and after reading about defective panels I just want to be sure.
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Question enhanced HDMI signal format setting

I have all 3 sizes in this line throughout my house (55", 65", 75") and they all offer a setting called Enhanced HDMI Signal format (see attached photo). This is turned on or off for each HDMI input and reboots the TV when changed. When I turn it on and run video to that input from a 4K TiVo Bolt, the screen goes black for a few seconds when changing channels, fast-forwarding, and rewinding. This is very annoying looks like it might be an extra HDCP handshake trying to take place. This doesn't happen when this setting is set back to normal.

Interestingly my Sony STRDA5000ES 4K receivers also have this setting. The explanation seems cryptic. Is it meant for all 4K 60p video or just the types it lists? Is the TiVo capable of any of these? Is there an advantage to having both the receiver and the TV set to this? How does this setting affect other picture settings, like extended range HDR (which makes non-HDR material look like it has more dynamic range but not in a natural way).

Curious how people are adjusting their settings particularly when you only use one of the TV's inputs and use a receiver for switching.
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I am looking forward to purchase soon a 75" UHDTV set and my only two choices are the Vizio P75-C1 and the Sony XBR-75X940D.

I went to my local Best Buy store and, lo and behold, a wall of 75"~78" sets from Vizio, Sony, Samsung and LG plus the usual 55"~65" OLED "eye-candy" sets from LG.

The store had on display the Vizio P75-C1, the Sony XBR-75X940D, the new Samsung $10K top-of-the-line 78" set, another Samsung 78" set (JU7100 ?) for a little more than $7K, a 75" LG LCD model (wasn't paying any attention to it, but i believe it was 75" diagonal) and even a demo unit from last year's Sony XBR-75X940C on sale for $5K, which i considered overpriced.

I really, really wanted to be wowed by the Vizio P75-C1 considering its ratio of price/features/performance but, for the third time i have checked it next to last year's Sony 940C and now against the 940D all my eyes noticed almost immediately was the matte screen of the Vizio next to the glossy screen of the Sony, and i cannot get over the difference, which i thought astonishing : the vividness of the picture of the Vizio lags way behind the Sony plus had a kind of grey hazy look to it that i found rather disturbing, and i don't think increasing contrast or lowering brightness controls on the Vizio would take care of that.
I came to the realization that on the subject of "matte vs. glossy LCD screen" i am definitely on the side of glossy.

I am actually upset with such finding because of the price differential between the Vizio and the Sony sets which would save me over $2K but i want to get a UHDTV set that wows me in every way possible and it appears the Vizio is out of contention, to my chagrin !

I read comments at both AVS threads and some posters have stated that the Vizio P75-C1 and the Sony XBR-75X940D use the same 4K LCD panel sourced from AUO, so why the difference of matte and glossy screens between these two sets ?
Is there a chance that AUO offers such option to manufacturers and if not, could Vizio be adding its own layer of matte material on its LCD screen ?

The only good part of my Best Buy visit is that i talked to the section manager and told him of my impressions and that i was thinking of waiting until August to place my order to take advantage of the yearly Massachusetts "sales tax holiday" on purchases up to $2,500.00 (which would save me about $140 on 6.25% state tax), and he told me that Best Buy usually gives customers making such large purchases on that specific day tax savings on the full amount of purchase, meaning there would not be another $375 added as sales tax, which i thought rather encouraging.

That, plus the fact that i hope by August the Sony XBR-75X940D will be available at Best Buy for around $5.5K, made up my choice, unless another 75" UHDTV set with similar specs appears by then, which i think is highly unlikely.
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Well, I just returned home from a nearby Best Buy and it's OFFICIAL...I have joined the "Sony 940D club!" They said their delivery for displays is at least 10 days out but we have a vacation from July 1st-11th so they set the delivery date for Tuesday, July 12th.

I went in there and asked for their best price (including taxes, shipping, and set up on my stand in my Home Theater room). They came back with a "fair" price, but not even close to the one I was quoted from the Sony dealer mentioned in a previous post. I said, "If you can match this price (and I showed them the email with the breakdown of the pricing) I'll buy it today." They came back 10 minutes later and matched the price! I am one Happy Camper (so far)...here's hoping the delivery goes without incident and I get a good panel. I plan to use Jerry's settings and if it looks good, I'm going to enjoy the set and avoid the snare of looking for anomalies!
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You really can't compare a vizio to a sony. Cheaper for a reason. But one can argue sony is overpriced as well. Which is why I'm waiting patiently till new years or even CES next year to figure out a 75 inch er to adorn my wall. Heck if lg release their 78 inch oled for 10 large I would snap it up!

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Just a friendly reminder so you don't forget to replace your surge protector along with your tv. Hate to see you have to go through this again !

I wish to thank everyone who spoke about surge protectors and AC Conditioners in earlier posts ! I just replaced mine from one I have had for many years and no doubt had already sacrificed itself but has continued to pass unprotected AC Current through to my AV Products ! Not only am I protected but the video and audio content is so much more crisp and clear !
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I am looking forward to purchase soon a 75" UHDTV set and my only two choices are the Vizio P75-C1 and the Sony XBR-75X940D.

I went to my local Best Buy store and, lo and behold, a wall of 75"~78" sets from Vizio, Sony, Samsung and LG plus the usual 55"~65" OLED "eye-candy" sets from LG.

The store had on display the Vizio P75-C1, the Sony XBR-75X940D, the new Samsung $10K top-of-the-line 78" set, another Samsung 78" set (JU7100 ?) for a little more than $7K, a 75" LG LCD model (wasn't paying any attention to it, but i believe it was 75" diagonal) and even a demo unit from last year's Sony XBR-75X940C on sale for $5K, which i considered overpriced.

I really, really wanted to be wowed by the Vizio P75-C1 considering its ratio of price/features/performance but, for the third time i have checked it next to last year's Sony 940C and now against the 940D all my eyes noticed almost immediately was the matte screen of the Vizio next to the glossy screen of the Sony, and i cannot get over the difference, which i thought astonishing : the vividness of the picture of the Vizio lags way behind the Sony plus had a kind of grey hazy look to it that i found rather disturbing, and i don't think increasing contrast or lowering brightness controls on the Vizio would take care of that.
I came to the realization that on the subject of "matte vs. glossy LCD screen" i am definitely on the side of glossy.

I am actually upset with such finding because of the price differential between the Vizio and the Sony sets which would save me over $2K but i want to get a UHDTV set that wows me in every way possible and it appears the Vizio is out of contention, to my chagrin !

I read comments at both AVS threads and some posters have stated that the Vizio P75-C1 and the Sony XBR-75X940D use the same 4K LCD panel sourced from AUO, so why the difference of matte and glossy screens between these two sets ?
Is there a chance that AUO offers such option to manufacturers and if not, could Vizio be adding its own layer of matte material on its LCD screen ?

The only good part of my Best Buy visit is that i talked to the section manager and told him of my impressions and that i was thinking of waiting until August to place my order to take advantage of the yearly Massachusetts "sales tax holiday" on purchases up to $2,500.00 (which would save me about $140 on 6.25% state tax), and he told me that Best Buy usually gives customers making such large purchases on that specific day tax savings on the full amount of purchase, meaning there would not be another $375 added as sales tax, which i thought rather encouraging.

That, plus the fact that i hope by August the Sony XBR-75X940D will be available at Best Buy for around $5.5K, made up my choice, unless another 75" UHDTV set with similar specs appears by then, which i think is highly unlikely.

Seems like sound reasoning .... but ... I did not realize that BB had that kindda clout and can supersede State Tax Laws ! Interesting ... if they can and do I hope they have the same kindda clout in my neck of the northeast !
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I had a question regarding what picture settings people were using for HDR sources (i.e. Samsung 4K player, HDR streaming from Amazon, Netflix, etc.)? I've been using Jerry's gamma 2.4 settings and the picture looks awesome on non-HDR sources. I know it's tough to calibrate for this currently, but I was curious what folks were doing...leaving it on the default settings for HDR mode or tweaking a bit? The default does look pretty good, but I was wondering if others had success with their own inputs? Thanks.
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Just got back from Magnolia, where i ordered my 940D THANK YOU to all who took your time to post your experiences! It directly caused me to buy. I'm Happier than a clam- I got the most knowledgeable A/V guy I've ever found.

For whatever reason , the previous Best Buy I went to did not have it set up right and Blu Rays looked grainy. At this store they had 20 or more Blu Rays on tap and I could pick and choose BluRays- he removed all motion processing and enhancements and finally I could see what you guys are seeing- a terrific upscaled Blu Ray pic, as good or better than my 1080P plasma- but bigger, brighter, pretty good blacks, no SOE, and at least for the 45 mins I watched, motion looked fine.

The set will be delivered Wednesday, I'll post my observations. Had to also get a couple of toslink cables and some newer HDMI cables, and a 4K Roku. I assume I can run any device via HDMI directly into the set and get 5.1 sound via the toslink cable out to my Yammie receiver, without running a toslink cable from each device- is that right? Anyone?

I have to admit, they also had a G6 Oled- but it was on vivid and I didn't take the time to play with it- OMG blacks to die for, detail and stunning colors- sexy styling- it had the SOE but I could have eliminated that but just didn't want to mess with it. After watching for a while motion didn't seem quite as realistic as the Sony- and I wanted a 75"- but if there was no Sony I would grab that 65" OLED. The Value Electronics shoot out is Wednesday, I think, BTW.
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Due to my AV setup and location I purchased a Furman Elite-15i and a Furman PST-8D. I have a propane gas generator so I do not need the battery back up. Hate having no tv/computer and no warm water showers ! ... also beware of purchasing from an authorized dealer ... no authorization ... no warranty !
TomcatTLC...why do you need both? Do you need to plug the 15i into the PST-8D surge protector? thanks
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I am looking forward to purchase soon a 75" UHDTV set and my only two choices are the Vizio P75-C1 and the Sony XBR-75X940D.

I went to my local Best Buy store and, lo and behold, a wall of 75"~78" sets from Vizio, Sony, Samsung and LG plus the usual 55"~65" OLED "eye-candy" sets from LG.

The store had on display the Vizio P75-C1, the Sony XBR-75X940D, the new Samsung $10K top-of-the-line 78" set, another Samsung 78" set (JU7100 ?) for a little more than $7K, a 75" LG LCD model (wasn't paying any attention to it, but i believe it was 75" diagonal) and even a demo unit from last year's Sony XBR-75X940C on sale for $5K, which i considered overpriced.

I really, really wanted to be wowed by the Vizio P75-C1 considering its ratio of price/features/performance but, for the third time i have checked it next to last year's Sony 940C and now against the 940D all my eyes noticed almost immediately was the matte screen of the Vizio next to the glossy screen of the Sony, and i cannot get over the difference, which i thought astonishing : the vividness of the picture of the Vizio lags way behind the Sony plus had a kind of grey hazy look to it that i found rather disturbing, and i don't think increasing contrast or lowering brightness controls on the Vizio would take care of that.
I came to the realization that on the subject of "matte vs. glossy LCD screen" i am definitely on the side of glossy.
Glass looks even better, although the reflections can be a PITA. In a dark room though, there's nothing really quite like it.
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Guys, I'm really grappling with something that I need advice on.

I got the x940d at the Sony-discounted price in Canada, and I paid for the Best Buy Geek Squad warranty on it. 3 year warranty which works out to a bit more than 15 times the $99 Square Trade warranty some of you are getting in the US. I have the first year of warranty covered through Sony, the second year of coverage through my credit card, so I'm essentially paying all that money for a warranty that is for the second+1 day up until the third year of TV ownership. That's insane, isn't it? The warranty is 19% of the price of the TV. If something does go wrong with it in the coverage period, would I even be spending that kind of money to fix it?

What are "normal" repair bills on a tv like this?
Problems with electronics typically arise during the first year, so I think that you are well covered with the manufacturers warranty plus the extended coverage that your credit card provides.
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