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That issue on the edit is real. I run my PS4 Proat 1080p beast mode through port 5. As soon as the game started no/delayed sound. The game actually skipped frames as well. I just moved it to port 4, but man how did that get broken?

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M55-D0 Calibration Settings Updated?

Anyone have an up to date calibration settings using the latest firmware? I have an M55-D0. Currently using the original one from rtings (circa 2016...) but have seen folks speak highly of the "Calibrated" mode with the later firmware updates.

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@sonoftumble calibrations from 2018 are somewhere in the middle of this board.. but yeah i really wish to see some new settings 2019... If anyone out there can provide
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Anyone have an up to date calibration settings using the latest firmware? I have an M55-D0. Currently using the original one from rtings (circa 2016...) but have seen folks speak highly of the "Calibrated" mode with the later firmware updates.

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Here is our resident guru's latest settings post: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...l#post57056470

As he notes, however, the firmware updates make changes that invalidate older calibrations, while at the same time incorporating built-in calibration that seems to be quite accurate.

If your M55-D0 is up-to-date as to firmware, then those old rtings setting will be downright horrible and, in fact, the "calibrated" setting may be as well as you can do without doing a complete instrumented calibration yourself. I have the same M55-D0 and, watching in a very dark room, find that "calibrated (dark)" looks very good, and is quite satisfactory. This is with firmware 6.0.18.1. I used to use sonoftumble's calibrations, which were excellent, but no longer, for reasons he himself has explained.
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I am glad I checked this, I noticed a lot of audio delay on port 5 with my PC and I am unable to use ports 2-4 due to flickering(I am assuming those ports do not fully support 120HZ input from a PC?). Turned off game low latency on port 5 and that fixed the issue.
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Any ideas on how to get rid of screen tearing on a M50-D1 in Rocket League for Xbox One X? I know that there is a Vertical Sync option in the game settings for Rocket League but it adds so much input lag... and it's best if you leave it turned off. The Xbox is on HDMI 1 which is the HDR port and the one with the lowest input lag. The game runs in HDR 10 and the only way I've got the screen tearing to a lesser degree is to run it at 720P but it's still fairly bad and well the game looks like crap after playing it in high rez.

Here's the thing that drives me crazy with the screen tearing, it didn't use to be a problem but updates to the TV and the Xbox have created and fixed the problem over the past couple years. When I first started playing the game a few years back there was no screen tearing at all and then one day the Xbox got updated and it started, couple months down the road the TV got updated and fixed the issue.

This went on back and forth for about 2 years with one of them getting an update that would create the problem and then then other would get an update that would fix it, that is until the past year or so and none of the updates to either has fixed the screen tearing. It's a pain waiting around on on updates that only happen a few times a year to see if they'll fix something that they broke.
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Anyone know when firmware 6.0.18.1 was pushed out? I think I just got it. Vizio M70-D3. I watched a movie on the Roku app on my Nvidea Shield and when I backed out of watching that movie, and went back to cable (Comcast), my entire tv screen seemed to be washed out, with everything out of whack. I went thru this thread and I used the last calibration settings posted and I have to say, the picture is not great. And before anyone asks, I unplugged and re-plugged each piece of equipment I have before changing the calibration settings. Is there any chance anyone will ever post any updated calibration settings for this model Vizio?

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Well, go figure. I walked out of the room and came back 10 minutes later and the picture looks pretty good. Disregard my last post.

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https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/31/...play-2-update/

Vizio begins updating its TVs with AirPlay 2 and HomeKit
Even models dating back to 2016.
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After doing some research on my issue stated out above, it would appear I have a failed LED strip. Based on the results I got back, this seems to be a common problem right around the 2 year mark on these televisions.

This (now failed) M70-D3 is my third set of the same model after the other 2 failed within the first year. Unfortunately, my warranty expired just last month (SURPRISE)!?

Since buying this set, I have bought a P Series 65 inch for another room and returned it for the P Series Quantum after the P65 failed. The best way I can describe the P65's failure is that it grew two large, round, and dark nipples; symmetrically placed on each side of the screen.

Within 2 weeks of owning the Quantum, its LED panel separated giving everything a nice posterized look. It went back to the store after Vizio gave such a hard time trying to validate it as an issue covered under their warranty.

That makes 5 failed Vizio televisions I've owned in just over 2 years (25 months, to be exact). Am I just that unlucky or are their sets really this horrible? Needless to say, I don't see myself ever buying another Vizio...which sucks because they're once of the only ones still making a 70" which is the exact size I need.
Were you ever able to fix this? My M70-D3 has multiple dim "lines" that end in the center of the screen. I've been able to mess with the picture settings to make it better (yesterday). But was fooling around with them today and it's worse again. I've read some say it is the LED driver board and others say the LED light strips themselves. Since I was able to minimize it yesterday I wonder about the LED light strips. Do LEDs get dim? I always thought they work or they don't, no in-between.

I'm a professional machine maintenance technician at Intel Corp. so I'm not afraid to open this up and replace parts. There is a cost/benefit limit and if it will be to much money or trouble to fix maybe I'll get rid of it and get a new TV. Like others I have a perfect entertainment center that accommodates at 70" TV and would like to stick with that. I also just purchased a P75-F1 a few months ago for my Den and love it, no uniformity issues to my untrained eye. Am I in for trouble down the road with it tho?


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https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/31/...play-2-update/

Vizio begins updating its TVs with AirPlay 2 and HomeKit
Even models dating back to 2016.
My 2016 M70 just updated to the Airplay firmware, SWEET!
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My 2016 M70 just updated to the Airplay firmware, SWEET!
How do you access it? Through the App section?

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How do you access it? Through the App section?
There's a couple of ways. It is included as one of the inputs, just like HDMI1 or WatchFree. It is a new input called Airplay. If you access the App screen via the Vizio key on your remote, you will see it listed at the top of the screen near the Cast icon.
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Hey all,

It's been a while. My M70-D3 has been hibernating while I've focused on a few other brands/models, but just to confirm - at least for the time being - the latest FW I am aware of is: "7.0.8.2-1".

First impressions of picture quality - without making any adjustments to the color tuner or white balance - is that I don't need to run a full monty calibration. Especially with Dolby Vision content. Just set the picture mode to the factory "Calibrated" and ( in some cases ) lower the backlight to suit your personal eye comfort levels - and it looks amazing!!

The other pleasant surprise is that I can playback 60Hz Dolby Vision content. Not much out there to try, but my AppleTV 4K's home screen is set to 60Hz Dolby Vision, and it's handling that with flying colors! So the pundits claims that the 2016 M series' hardware could not handle 60Hz Dolby Vision turn out to be unsupported.

Of course the Apple Airplay is also a cool addition. In general, it's good to see that Vizio is still supporting their older models!!
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@sonoftumble its been a long time, but yes I did also get that update is it safe to say that you're saying the "calibrated" version you're using is without changing any of the actual color tuning or are you using your actual calibrated settings? I appreciate ur insight, this 65 inch is currently still my only source to dolby vision.. and honestly i been usingy epson 5050 for movie watching in 4k hdr10 with wide color gamut..
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I haven't gotten version 7 yet on my M55-D0 -- and there's no guarantee that I will -- but my experience has mirrored SoT's for the last couple of updates: The built-in "Calibrated" settings are so well optimized that they require no real tweaking other than to make the display comfortable in your room in terms of brightness. I'm quite happy with this TV still -- it's better than it was when I bought it, and how many products can you say that about? It has its flaws, but then, so do my 68-year old eyes. It's a race.
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@sonoftumble its been a long time, but yes I did also get that update is it safe to say that you're saying the "calibrated" version you're using is without changing any of the actual color tuning or are you using your actual calibrated settings? I appreciate ur insight, this 65 inch is currently still my only source to dolby vision.. and honestly i been usingy epson 5050 for movie watching in 4k hdr10 with wide color gamut..
Hey @asolor78 ,
Yes - that is true. I am using only the "Calibrated" picture mode for all three dynamic range formats (SDR, HDR10/HLG and DV) with the Color Tuner fully reset, or zero'd out. I don't see the need to make any adjustments to the Color Tuner because the picture is so close to "calibrated" already that any changes would not make a significant difference visually.
Any delta errors which are less than 3% are basically invisible to the eye anyway.

Enjoy your Epson 5050 - really a great projector!

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My M55-D0 is updating to 7.0.8.2-2 as I type this. I wonder if the "-2" means it's specific to the M55, since I've seen references to "7.0.8.2-1" for other panels in the 2016 M Series.
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no update yet for me

I have two M70-D3 sets and neither have gotten the update yet. Even if I preform a check for updates, it says I have the latest firmware. Guess I just have to wait.
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After doing some research on my issue stated out above, it would appear I have a failed LED strip. Based on the results I got back, this seems to be a common problem right around the 2 year mark on these televisions.

This (now failed) M70-D3 is my third set of the same model after the other 2 failed within the first year. Unfortunately, my warranty expired just last month (SURPRISE)!?

Since buying this set, I have bought a P Series 65 inch for another room and returned it for the P Series Quantum after the P65 failed. The best way I can describe the P65's failure is that it grew two large, round, and dark nipples; symmetrically placed on each side of the screen.

Within 2 weeks of owning the Quantum, its LED panel separated giving everything a nice posterized look. It went back to the store after Vizio gave such a hard time trying to validate it as an issue covered under their warranty.

That makes 5 failed Vizio televisions I've owned in just over 2 years (25 months, to be exact). Am I just that unlucky or are their sets really this horrible? Needless to say, I don't see myself ever buying another Vizio...which sucks because they're once of the only ones still making a 70" which is the exact size I need.
I realize this is a 5 month old post, but wanted to echo this problem with my M70-D3's. I had the same shadowy areas (photo attached) show up, which I assume are LED zone failures. Luckily when I first noticed this back in October 2018, I was still within the extended Costco warranty period, and Vizio quickly sent me a replacement set. Now the problems start to escalate. While the picture on the new set was good, the protective film around the bezel left a sticky residue when removed, of which some was actually on the screen. Nothing would remove this residue, and Vizio essentially told me I was SOL and they would not send another replacement for that. 4 months later the same LED zone failures happened with that set, and of course the replacement set only came with a 30 or 90 day warranty (can't remember which).

Last week I decided enough was enough, and I had to replace the set. I had originally started looking at the Vizio 75PQX model at Costco, as I had been reading good things about it. But I had read the same things about the M70 back in 2016 when I purchased that one, and decided that Vizio has lost my business because of the crap sets I received and their refusal to make it right. I decided to get the Sony XBR 75-950G, and I must say that watching Guardians of the Galaxy 2 in 4K HDR last night was the finest picture experience I have ever had in all the years of my HT hobby. Breathtaking would not be an over-exaggeration.
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Hey @asolor78 ,
Yes - that is true. I am using only the "Calibrated" picture mode for all three dynamic range formats (SDR, HDR10/HLG and DV) with the Color Tuner fully reset, or zero'd out. I don't see the need to make any adjustments to the Color Tuner because the picture is so close to "calibrated" already that any changes would not make a significant difference visually.
Any delta errors which are less than 3% are basically invisible to the eye anyway.

Enjoy your Epson 5050 - really a great projector!

Interesting, I have , I still have your last settings used, and I do find it pretty decent still, although I guess its way off by now.



If I simply go to Calibrated, from memory, we didnt touch this right? it should be the same as what you have now?
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Interesting, I have , I still have your last settings used, and I do find it pretty decent still, although I guess its way off by now.

If I simply go to Calibrated, from memory, we didnt touch this right? it should be the same as what you have now?
Anytime you make even the slightest change to a factory picture mode; i.e. "Calibrated" - the name will end up getting an * add to the end of the name to indicate that a setting was changed. In the past, anytime I modified one of the picture modes, I would name it something else so that the factory version of the picture mode was still available.

This time, I basically chose the factory "Calibrated" picture mode and zeroed out the Color Tuner (which I believe is still a global setting ), adjusted the backlight to my personal liking and I was done. That of course added the * to the end of the picture mode name, but not a big deal. I will rename it if I feel the need.

Depending on the content's dynamic range signal (SDR,HDR10,HLG,Dolby Vision), you will see other changes to the settings such as the backlight. These will happen automatically. Adjust to your liking. Vizio really did a nice job with getting things very close and you don't have to worry about panel variances with this approach.

LG OLED65C7P 4-20-19 Calibration SDR/HDR/DV FW 05.80.15: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...l#post57928994
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Anytime you make even the slightest change to a factory picture mode; i.e. "Calibrated" - the name will end up getting an * add to the end of the name to indicate that a setting was changed. In the past, anytime I modified one of the picture modes, I would name it something else so that the factory version of the picture mode was still available.

This time, I basically chose the factory "Calibrated" picture mode and zeroed out the Color Tuner (which I believe is still a global setting ), adjusted the backlight to my personal liking and I was done. That of course added the * to the end of the picture mode name, but not a big deal. I will rename it if I feel the need.

Depending on the content's dynamic range signal (SDR,HDR10,HLG,Dolby Vision), you will see other changes to the settings such as the backlight. These will happen automatically. Adjust to your liking. Vizio really did a nice job with getting things very close and you don't have to worry about panel variances with this approach.
ok nice thanks, Ill take a look tomorrow if I have a * at the end, I hope I dont.

So here is another question, I have to assume then, that with the updates, "Calibrated" mode settings gets updated as well?
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ok nice thanks, Ill take a look tomorrow if I have a * at the end, I hope I dont.

So here is another question, I have to assume then, that with the updates, "Calibrated" mode settings gets updated as well?
Yes. I call them "under-the-hood" settings that are done in their labs, and then incorporated into a subsequent firmware update. When I first got my M70-D3, I noticed right away that there were out-of-the-box issues with flesh tones even when using the "Calibrated" picture mode. So, I had to run a calibration session to make things more accurate, and look better. Over time, new firmware updates were released where it was obvious that Vizio was working to improve things. One particular update that came out around July 2017 was dramatically better and the calibration session went so much smoother than the previous efforts. In October 2017, I had to put my M70 into hibernation because I was testing out a new OLED from LG. Then, last month I fired her back up and installed the latest firmware which added support for Apple's "Airplay" casting tech. Interesting to see that the Rev # went from 3.x to 6.x - so obviously a lot of things going on since I last had her plugged in. As I said earlier, I zeroed out the Color Tuner, Offset and Gain settings, and selected the "Calibrated" picture mode.

To my delight, the picture looked excellent, and the flesh tones were spot on. So, it looks like Vizio's efforts have resulted in producing a very accurate picture without needing to run a calibration session. Would a calibration improve things? Probably - at least on paper. But the delta errors would probably be so low that the human eye would not see any meaningful differences.

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LG OLED65C7P 4-20-19 Calibration SDR/HDR/DV FW 05.80.15: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...l#post57928994
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Yes. I call them "under-the-hood" settings that are done in their labs, and then incorporated into a subsequent firmware update. When I first got my M70-D3, I noticed right away that there were out-of-the-box issues with flesh tones even when using the "Calibrated" picture mode. So, I had to run a calibration session to make things more accurate, and look better. Over time, new firmware updates were released where it was obvious that Vizio was working to improve things. One particular update that came out around July 2017 was dramatically better and the calibration session went so much smoother than the previous efforts. In October 2017, I had to put my M70 into hibernation because I was testing out a new OLED from LG. Then, last month I fired her back up and installed the latest firmware which added support for Apple's "Airplay" casting tech. Interesting to see that the Rev # went from 3.x to 6.x - so obviously a lot of things going on since I last had her plugged in. As I said earlier, I zeroed out the Color Tuner, Offset and Gain settings, and selected the "Calibrated" picture mode.

To my delight, the picture looked excellent, and the flesh tones were spot on. So, it looks like Vizio's efforts have resulted in producing a very accurate picture without needing to run a calibration session. Would a calibration improve things? Probably - at least on paper. But the delta errors would probably be so low that the human eye would not see any meaningful differences.

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ok thanks, Ill give those a shot when I get a chance and report back hopefully.
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Without reading this entire thread and search function not helping, I have an issue on my M70-D3 that hopefully someone can identify and tell me if there is a fix. Not in warranty. The upper right hand quadrant is a shade darker than the other 3. Noticed it today with a full day of sunny football games but I’m now noticing it tonight. It appears as if there is a invisible shade structure over that quadrant. Darker at the very top right then gets slightly lighter until it’s back to normal. Being a PQ freak, I’m not sure that most would even notice it but it bugs me now. Ignorance is bliss. TIA for any help, comments.

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Yes except mine is more defined with the set ON. Especially sports. Don’t know the address of my IOS screen shots or I would post it.

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Without reading this entire thread and search function not helping, I have an issue on my M70-D3 that hopefully someone can identify and tell me if there is a fix. Not in warranty. The upper right hand quadrant is a shade darker than the other 3. Noticed it today with a full day of sunny football games but I’m now noticing it tonight. It appears as if there is a invisible shade structure over that quadrant. Darker at the very top right then gets slightly lighter until it’s back to normal. Being a PQ freak, I’m not sure that most would even notice it but it bugs me now. Ignorance is bliss. TIA for any help, comments.
I’m having the same issues with my M70-D3. It especially annoys me during baseball but now I see it all the time. Like you I wish I could unsee it because now I focus on it and get upset everyday.

If anyone can give us some answers we would all appreciate it.
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I’m having the same issues with my M70-D3. It especially annoys me during baseball but now I see it all the time. Like you I wish I could unsee it because now I focus on it and get upset everyday.

If anyone can give us some answers we would all appreciate it.
I searched using key words and came up with almost identical post (6-12 months ago) with this problem on lower left quadrant. No one acknowledged his questions. Looks like we are on our own. Asked Vizio about the issue on Twitter today and got a call 800 customer service response.

Might have to move my best TV to guest BR and buy a TCL Roku. Love the remote with headphones and built in Roku interface. Great picture quality but Vizio PQ is better if a good set.

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