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post #15871 of 22445 Old 07-02-2018, 08:03 AM
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Dolby Vision is working with my 75Z9D,Apple 4KTV and my Pioneer Elite SC x701....
Not sure how why Atmos isn't working with the Apple 4KTV though.
Do you have the Pioneer App on your phone? Can you see when playing a Dolby Vision bluray, if the receiver you have in the app shows the video output as 422 24bit.? That's what mine shows. I just want to see if there is a difference between how the 701 outputs to our tv vs my 302. thank you.

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A heads up to anyone who picked one up from Best Buy in the last month or so. The price just dropped and I was able to have them price match and refund the difference, which was well worth the five minute phone call.

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Anyone with an Oppo 203 have trouble with Dolby Vision discs where the TV doesn't "lock on" to the DV signal?

Last night I put on Transformers and, although the screen displayed the DV logo on startup, when I went into the TV settings it allowed me to alter picture settings meaning DV was not being accepted.

I checked my Oppo and made sure the setting were correct (Dolby Vision, 12-bit, Player-led).

The only thing on my TV that I changed was HDR - Auto and the Auto 24p/Cinema Mode picture setting.

Thoughts?

Almost forgot: anyone having issues where the TV will not power on randomly? I need to unplug for about two minutes then it starts. Doesn't happen always, maybe once or twice a week.

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Turned on my 203 and it showed an available firmware update. Dolby Vision now working flawlessly with my Oppo 203 and Sony 75Z9D. Patience paid off.

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Way late, but Oppo pulled thru I wonder who is going to make the high end go to UHD player......
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Way late, but Oppo pulled thru I wonder who is going to make the high end go to UHD player......


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Anyone with an Oppo 203 have trouble with Dolby Vision discs where the TV doesn't "lock on" to the DV signal?

Last night I put on Transformers and, although the screen displayed the DV logo on startup, when I went into the TV settings it allowed me to alter picture settings meaning DV was not being accepted.

I checked my Oppo and made sure the setting were correct (Dolby Vision, 12-bit, Player-led).

The only thing on my TV that I changed was HDR - Auto and the Auto 24p/Cinema Mode picture setting.

Thoughts?

Almost forgot: anyone having issues where the TV will not power on randomly? I need to unplug for about two minutes then it starts. Doesn't happen always, maybe once or twice a week.
I've noticed the DV logo flash a couple times during the menus and stuff, but it stuck fine in DV mode once the movie started.

You can still adjust settings so that doesn't mean you don't have DV. The quick access settings menu will still show "hdr" badge but the picture mode should say Dolby Vision and greyed out.

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Anyone have a link to some quality 3D glasses for this tv? I bought some and shortly after the 30 day return window they quit working. The tv says that they are registered but the image doesn’t change.

Really prefer rechargeable if at all possible. Thank you for any help.
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Anyone have a link to some quality 3D glasses for this tv? I bought some and shortly after the 30 day return window they quit working. The tv says that they are registered but the image doesn’t change.

Really prefer rechargeable if at all possible. Thank you for any help.
I bought these and they work great, not rechargeable though.

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I have 4 pair of Sony TDG BT400a that came with my purchase of a Sony KDLW65850A The (2025 batteries) are very easy to change . I were glass and the Sony TDG BT400a fit over my glasses . I addition they have a (removable) rubber nose piece for further fitting . I tested them on the 75"Z9D . I looked at a photo of the glasses that are supposed to come with the Z9D in a photo and they seemed to not have a rubber nose piece. It may not be an issue . But I like that option . The link has 3 photo's and the second picture you can see the rubber nose piece that is removable . 4 2025 batteries for $ 10.00 should last you awhile . In addition "food for thought" if you run down the rechargeable batteries for what ever reason moving forward in life than that is the end of those 3-D glasses. Peace Link: https://www.amazon.com/TDG-BT500A-TD...rds=TDG-BT400A

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Has anyone got Amazon Prime to stream through Apple TV with the Z9D? Everything else works fine but with the Apple TV but I lose signal whenever I try to start streaming something with Amazon. I've tried restarts and different cables, but no luck.
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Really prefer rechargeable if at all possible. Thank you for any help.

… Hi saw2814. I have eight of these XPAND 3D Glasses and all of them have worked great with different Active Technology TVs. I purchased mine directly from the manufacturer several years ago but I see they are available on Amazon. XPAND X105-RF-X1 Rechargeable 3D RF/Bluetooth Glasses … Hope this is helpful.

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Has anyone got Amazon Prime to stream through Apple TV with the Z9D? Everything else works fine but with the Apple TV but I lose signal whenever I try to start streaming something with Amazon. I've tried restarts and different cables, but no luck.

I have no problems streaming Prime from my ATV4K to my Z9D. Only issues are Prime functionality (i.e., lack of 5.1 on some videos, finding the 4K version, etc.).

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Anyone have a link to some quality 3D glasses for this tv? I bought some and shortly after the 30 day return window they quit working. The tv says that they are registered but the image doesn’t change.

Really prefer rechargeable if at all possible. Thank you for any help.
my TV didn't come with the lasses (open box) even though they said it came withe everything.
I managed to quickly and easily pair my old rechargeable samsung glasses perfectly!

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I have no problems streaming Prime from my ATV4K to my Z9D. Only issues are Prime functionality (i.e., lack of 5.1 on some videos, finding the 4K version, etc.).
Which HDMI input are you using? I can use the app on my TV but it seems to lag sometimes so thought it might be smoother on the ATV4K.
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Has anyone got Amazon Prime to stream through Apple TV with the Z9D? Everything else works fine but with the Apple TV but I lose signal whenever I try to start streaming something with Amazon. I've tried restarts and different cables, but no luck.
Works great on my ATV4K. I have watched a lot of 4K UHD/HDR content.

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just returned a 75" Q8 and will be picking up a 65" Z9D tomorrow. in my area, the bestbuy stores are all on back order till August. so ill be making a little drive to pick up the one unit within reasonable driving distance. I figured, while a new unit is destine to arrive in the future, no guarantee it will meet/exceed the reputation of the current unit, and it is on sale now (-$500)....finger crossed for a satisfactory unit when i get it home.
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just returned a 75" Q8 and will be picking up a 65" Z9D tomorrow. in my area, the bestbuy stores are all on back order till August. so ill be making a little drive to pick up the one unit within reasonable driving distance. I figured, while a new unit is destine to arrive in the future, no guarantee it will meet/exceed the reputation of the current unit, and it is on sale now (-$500)....finger crossed for a satisfactory unit when i get it home.
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Do you have the Pioneer App on your phone? Can you see when playing a Dolby Vision bluray, if the receiver you have in the app shows the video output as 422 24bit.? That's what mine shows. I just want to see if there is a difference between how the 701 outputs to our tv vs my 302. thank you.
No I don't use the app.
Not a Oppo fan so and waiting on the Panasonic 4K 820 or the new Pioneer for 4K Bluray to test

Apple 4KTV shows 24 bit(8 bit) oddly? Thought Apple 4KTV was 30/36 Bit(10/12 bit)?

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Hi, it's been a while since I posted here. Got an X700 and updated my firmware for Dolby Vision. I havn't ran into any problems but I was curious if people have specific settings for DV? Black levels look a little milky to me. I have been messing around with the Matrix 4K and Westworld 4K so far. I have been using 10k's HDR settings for 4K UHD playback for the most part. Just wanted to know if contrast needed adjusted? Also, should I leave Deep Color on or off on my X700? I left it on auto thinking I probably want it on for 12 and 10 bit color but I seem to remember a problem with it on a past Sony UHD player so I figured it would be best to ask.

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… Hope you receive a "Keeper" ! I also hope you have no regrets for going smaller … unless of course you wanted/needed to go smaller !
thanks. i went from an older edge lit 55" samsung to the 75" Q8 for about a week. gave it hopeful opportunity to impress.... it did not. 75 is HUGE. like hilarious big and 100% bada$$. couldnt justify the 75 Z9 expense. fingers crossed this rouge unit in a few cities over is quality.
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So I've lowered my SDR brightness from 25 to 15 and have it hovering around here for now. Brightness seems to shift a lot depending on the motion controls as well. So attached I have my settings guide now. Still have some questions around the motion (10k why not true cinema for all modes?) and for gaming/3D. Anyone using anything much different from these?

I have all SDR to HDMI input 1 through my Oppo 103D (outputting at 1080p with darbee so sony does all scaling from 1080 -> 4k).
So this is all SDR games, cable, blu-ray, and 3d blu rays).

HDMI 3 is the ps4 pro.

For apps (amazon, netflix, vudu, etc) it goes to it's own "source" and i'm using the cinema home (regular SDR settings) and for HDR cinema pro settings.
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So I've lowered my SDR brightness from 25 to 15 and have it hovering around here for now. Brightness seems to shift a lot depending on the motion controls as well. So attached I have my settings guide now. Still have some questions around the motion (10k why not true cinema for all modes?) and for gaming/3D. Anyone using anything much different from these?

I have all SDR to HDMI input 1 through my Oppo 103D (outputting at 1080p with darbee so sony does all scaling from 1080 -> 4k).
So this is all SDR games, cable, blu-ray, and 3d blu rays).

HDMI 3 is the ps4 pro.

For apps (amazon, netflix, vudu, etc) it goes to it's own "source" and i'm using the cinema home (regular SDR settings) and for HDR cinema pro settings.
I also use 15 with my settings..

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So I've lowered my SDR brightness from 25 to 15 and have it hovering around here for now. Brightness seems to shift a lot depending on the motion controls as well. So attached I have my settings guide now. Still have some questions around the motion (10k why not true cinema for all modes?) and for gaming/3D. Anyone using anything much different from these?

I have all SDR to HDMI input 1 through my Oppo 103D (outputting at 1080p with darbee so sony does all scaling from 1080 -> 4k).
So this is all SDR games, cable, blu-ray, and 3d blu rays).

HDMI 3 is the ps4 pro.

For apps (amazon, netflix, vudu, etc) it goes to it's own "source" and i'm using the cinema home (regular SDR settings) and for HDR cinema pro settings.
Use Light Sensor

Ps. Vincent Teoh found posterization effects when using Smooth Gradation on Dolby Vision content, even on Low. Recommends set to Off for DV, but he likes it Low for normal hdr/sdr use.

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Ps. Vincent Teoh found posterization effects when using Smooth Gradation on Dolby Vision content, even on Low. Recommends set to Off for DV, but he likes it Low for normal hdr/sdr use.
Thanks for the note!
Also with light sensor i feel like it always makes the image too dark....

What's interesting is my old plasma never "lit up the room", even at very bright scenes.
This is my first lcd, and during bright scenes, i notice it actually makes the room itself quite brighter

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Thanks for the note!
Also with light sensor i feel like it always makes the image too dark....

What's interesting is my old plasma never "lit up the room", even at very bright scenes.
This is my first lcd, and during bright scenes, i notice it actually makes the room itself quite brighter
Try keeping the brightness at Default (I think 35 for Cinema Home) before turning on Light Sensor. I noticed that too.

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On normal HDR discs I have used 10k's settings for over a year now with one exception. I lower the black level from default 50 to 46. I'm using a 65 inch Z9D. It may be my panel but black levels were never pitch when it was set at 50 and the TV can easily hit darker levels while still displaying the appropriate levels of light at that lower level all the way up to blinding bright white that is hard to look at.

With Dolby Vision the problem seems to be even worse. I can now push contrast up from 86 to 90 without clipping but black levels need to drop all the way down to 35 in order for the overall image to look like I had it before regarding deep blacks. Of course you can see more in shadow with the image brightness boosted but some details are meant to be almost completely hidden in an image. I have not noticed any unatrual black crush on my panel with 10K's HDR settings and contrast at 90, black levels at 35 using Dolby Vision. I would be interested to know if anyone else has tried his settings with a slightly lower black level on UHD and the more aggressive settings mentioned above on DV. If you have, what does it look like on your panel?

Also important, I'm viewing in a completely pitch black room.

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Re: the firmware update, previously available in the UK, that is supposed to resolve the "blinking" problem:

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We would like to inform you that we’ve decided to temporarily delay the rollout of the below announced firmware update. Our engineers are still fine-tuning the firmware to ensure the best possible experience with the new release. We will update this article with a new update schedule as soon as possible. For the latest developments, we recommend bookmarking this page. Alternatively, you can add your model to the Support by Sony mobile app to receive an instant product notification. We'd like to thank you for your understanding and patience.(Added on 21-06-2018)

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On normal HDR discs I have used 10k's settings for over a year now with one exception. I lower the black level from default 50 to 46. I'm using a 65 inch Z9D. It may be my panel but black levels were never pitch when it was set at 50 and the TV can easily hit darker levels while still displaying the appropriate levels of light at that lower level all the way up to blinding bright white that is hard to look at.

With Dolby Vision the problem seems to be even worse. I can now push contrast up from 86 to 90 without clipping but black levels need to drop all the way down to 35 in order for the overall image to look like I had it before regarding deep blacks. Of course you can see more in shadow with the image brightness boosted but some details are meant to be almost completely hidden in an image. I have not noticed any unatrual black crush on my panel with 10K's HDR settings and contrast at 90, black levels at 35 using Dolby Vision. I would be interested to know if anyone else has tried his settings with a slightly lower black level on UHD and the more aggressive settings mentioned above on DV. If you have, what does it look like on your panel?

Also important, I'm viewing in a completely pitch black room.
Something seems off. These TVs are pretty consistent and 50 seems to be universally perfect. I can see dropping it a tad to like 46 in a pitch black room, but 35 seems way excessive. Like all your black levels are way elevated.

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thanks. i went from an older edge lit 55" samsung to the 75" Q8 for about a week. gave it hopeful opportunity to impress.... it did not. 75 is HUGE. like hilarious big and 100% bada$$. couldnt justify the 75 Z9 expense. fingers crossed this rouge unit in a few cities over is quality.
How much more is the 75" version? Do consider the extra outlay, because it's hard to live with a smaller unit once you have seen what a bigger screen can do..
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Re: the firmware update, previously available in the UK, that is supposed to resolve the "blinking" problem:

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We would like to inform you that we’ve decided to temporarily delay the rollout of the below announced firmware update. Our engineers are still fine-tuning the firmware to ensure the best possible experience with the new release. We will update this article with a new update schedule as soon as possible. For the latest developments, we recommend bookmarking this page. Alternatively, you can add your model to the Support by Sony mobile app to receive an instant product notification. We'd like to thank you for your understanding and patience.(Added on 21-06-2018)

https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/s...loads/00015236
My new Z9D is bought and payed for . Waiting for home set-up . I am a "one man band" any way . Thanks for the info on the blanking/blinking software update . I have no idea if my Z9D will have this issue as it seems it is not universal . I hope the Sony US is working on this potential Blankin/Blinking issue as well . I was snooping around on the Sony trying to find a USA message stating a updated using (wording similar) to what you posted . I will add it is the first time navigating on Sony US website so I maybe looking in the wrong place . I could not find any similar update Verbiage . I Found this : This software update (version PKG6.2858.00082NAA) provides the following benefits:

Improves general performance of the TV
Improves performance for Amazon Prime® video playback
Resolves a condition where a short beeping sound is heard when changing channels
Benefits provided by previous updates and included in version PKG6.2858.00082NAA.

This Blanking / Blinking issue almost stopped my from my Z9D purchase . Forum member (TomcatTLC) left me feed back that influenced my course of action to proceed with my purchase and I am glad I did . But my fingers are crossed . My OCD brain can be a pain in the ass some times
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Any Idea if this blanking issue is being addressed in the Sony US versions of XBR-Z9D ? Thanks for indulging my lack of knowledge or information !
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