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post #18361 of 21937 Old 11-23-2018, 05:52 PM
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I was unable to get a Z9D due to being sold out. Can anyone give me suggestions on a good FALD t.v. thanks much!
Which size couldn't you get? The 65" and 75" are both still available AFAIK.
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I was unable to get a Z9D due to being sold out. Can anyone give me suggestions on a good FALD t.v. thanks much!


There’s 65” available in the BB New Jersey warehouse I checked this afternoon.

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I bought a 65Z9D in Oct of 2017 and have been sitting on this annoying blob (for lack of a better word) in the picture. I called Sony support and sent some pictures but I should have done it sooner. Attached are what it looks like. Has anyone else had an issue like this or have any recommendations for how to fix? Anytime the picture is light in color (ex Sandpit in today's Golf) I could see it.
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I live in the midwest. The closest warehouse that had any left sold out today. The next closest store that has them is 8hrs away and they will only do store pick up. This is best buy.
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I bought a 65Z9D in Oct of 2017 and have been sitting on this annoying blob (for lack of a better word) in the picture. I called Sony support and sent some pictures but I should have done it sooner. Attached are what it looks like. Has anyone else had an issue like this or have any recommendations for how to fix? Anytime the picture is light in color (ex Sandpit in today's Golf) I could see it.
Gently rub it with a soft microfiber cloth. You can probably make it less obvious, but might not be able to get rid of it completely. I've improved blobs like that on other tvs by about 80% with that method. Sony might have given you a replacement if you were in warranty but it's doubtful now. You could always call your credit card company. They probably won't get you a new tv but good chance they would refund you if they provide an extended warranty.

Most CC companies give you an additional 1 year warranty beyond the 1 year manufacturer warranty.
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I was unable to get a Z9D due to being sold out. Can anyone give me suggestions on a good FALD t.v. thanks much!
You could get a 900F. Still a nice TV
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a1e cannot reach 900 nits. More like 750. A1e therefore cannot reproduce ANY hdr content without clipping or tone mapping
Yes, on a 10 percent window, but has some issues with ABL. The c7 was brighter, I believe because of better ABL. A1e also has about 200 to 300 on a full window. It also has inferior ABL to the A9F, despite having a lower overall peak brightness. The A9F gets up to 600 nits with ABL, so its brighter than the A1e. It also tone maps beautifully. Vincent says it appears brighter than the A1e for that reason, and HDR is far superior. That being said, the z9d has stronger specular highlights and all around better balance of contrast. The Revenant looks better on the z9d than any oled, as a result of the HDR specular highlights of fire, ect. The Revenant was shot with mostly natural lighting. It's a perfect example of the beauty behind the BMD tech on the z9d.
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I totally agree that OLED rules in a dark environment. I was comparing the Z9D to the Z9F; 7976:1 to 3379:1 contrast ratios respectively according to rtings, who, love them or hate them, are mostly accurate in their measurements, if not necessarily in their conclusions.
The numbers don't represent what is perceptually viewed on the 75Z9F.

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I want a new 4K player . Sound And Vision September 12th 2018 review claims No 4K/ streaming Netfix, Prime, YouTube Support ?? Has this been addressed ? Or is Sound & Vision wrong? If so I will keep my UBP-X700 it has TUBI , YouTube HDR , Netflix , Prime , VUDU Dolby Vision maybe more .

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Guys, I was thinking about getting either a 2 year or 4 year Square Trade extended warranty on my 65" Z9D and wanted to get your opinion. Do you think it is a good idea? My main concern is that being that the set has 646 individually dimmable bulbs behind the screen they could burn out. What is the likelihood of that happening?
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Guys, I was thinking about getting either a 2 year or 4 year Square Trade extended warranty on my 65" Z9D and wanted to get your opinion. Do you think it is a good idea? My main concern is that being that the set has 646 individually dimmable bulbs behind the screen they could burn out. What is the likelihood of that happening?
As it ST warranty is pretty inexpensive, it is well worth it for peace of mind. I just ordered a Z9D yesterday and after having my 900E fail at around 14 months, I am going to add the Magnolia extended warranty. While I was an idiot about at least calling Sony about getting a vertical line dead center, it is almost worth $2000 not to deal with their abortion of customer service.

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The numbers don't represent what is perceptually viewed on the 75Z9F.

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I see you went with the 75" Z9F. Congrats. How are the blacks in a dark room? Word is that's the only area the Z9D is better at if you sit straight on. Definitely a better panel on the new Z with a lot less motion blur.
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Ofcourse the OLED is going to be dimmer and its also going to have much better viewing angles than the LCD...

Those are a given...so if either are deal breakers then the decision is done

That being said...there is a lot more to picture quality than the raw nits numbers as I have detailed already...and many reviews have as well
Hence my preference for controlled lighting movie watching is OLED..be it SDR or HDR

But I understand your point...there is a reason that the new Vizio PQ65 is selling so well
Its a torch and some people share your view of raw nits numbers as a litmus test

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Burn in/crushed blacks/significantly dimmer<much brighter/no burn in/longer life/worse viewing angles.

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Guys, I was thinking about getting either a 2 year or 4 year Square Trade extended warranty on my 65" Z9D and wanted to get your opinion. Do you think it is a good idea? My main concern is that being that the set has 646 individually dimmable bulbs behind the screen they could burn out. What is the likelihood of that happening?
Sony has stated the amount of zones people claim to find with the Z9D is higher.
Reason is the Backlight Master Drive dims EVERY LED so its thousands not hundreds.

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One minor thing about the Z9D that has been bugging me is the directionality of the remote. I have a large center channel speaker right under the center of the set. Not sure if this is causing the issue. I have to point the remote right at the center of the set and hold it higher than I normally would. Anyone else see this and any tips to improve?
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I totally agree that OLED rules in a dark environment. I was comparing the Z9D to the Z9F; 7976:1 to 3379:1 contrast ratios respectively according to rtings, who, love them or hate them, are mostly accurate in their measurements, if not necessarily in their conclusions.
The numbers don't represent what is perceptually viewed on the 75Z9F.

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I just the saw 75 Z9F in person and spent 2 hrs watching different content and I agree with showman94 the contrast ratio numbers are either wrong or don’t tell the real story. You can’t Go wrong with either the Z9D or F.
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My 500M seems to be much clearer and much better detail than my Z9D....Did I do something wrong?
My eyes had to adjust to the extra 15" and I will say the picture quality is superb...One great unit to another

Also, what is the true story about the aluminum covering?
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My eyes had to adjust to the extra 15" and I will say the picture quality is superb...One great unit to another

Also, what is the true story about the aluminum covering?
Glad to hear this. I just ordered up a 75Z9D from Chris at ClevelandAV and will be proportionally making the same move...from 60 inch KRP-600 75 inch Z9D.

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Sony has stated the amount of zones people claim to find with the Z9D is higher.
Reason is the Backlight Master Drive dims EVERY LED so its thousands not hundreds.
Not sure who quoted me saying Sony showed its numbers(lol) but they didn't...they did say this though...


"Discrete LED Control: Backlight Master Drive uses a new innovative algorithm to control the TVs ultra-dense LED structure. Each LED is controlled individually for a picture even more precise than that of a standard full-array TV which groups LEDs into larger zones."

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Not sure who quoted me saying Sony showed its numbers(lol) but they didn't...they did say this though...


"Discrete LED Control: Backlight Master Drive uses a new innovative algorithm to control the TVs ultra-dense LED structure. Each LED is controlled individually for a picture even more precise than that of a standard full-array TV which groups LEDs into larger zones."
Guys I apologize. I didn't find the zone count on Sony's web site. I found the information here. It could very well be inaccurate.

https://www.displayspecifications.com/en/model/2c7061a
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Guys I apologize. I didn't find the zone count on Sony's web site. I found the information here. It could very well be inaccurate.



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Guys, I was thinking about getting either a 2 year or 4 year Square Trade extended warranty on my 65" Z9D and wanted to get your opinion. Do you think it is a good idea? My main concern is that being that the set has 646 individually dimmable bulbs behind the screen they could burn out. What is the likelihood of that happening?
I just ordered a 75" Z9D from B&H and went ahead and got a squaretrade warranty from Costco. The price / terms are way better than what B&H offered and with my credit card pushes the warranty out to a total of 6 years. Seems like a no brainer for the price.
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I see you went with the 75" Z9F. Congrats. How are the blacks in a dark room? Word is that's the only area the Z9D is better at if you sit straight on. Definitely a better panel on the new Z with a lot less motion blur.
I recently compared it with my P. The z9f gets blacker during black screens. They only reason has slight blooming in certain HDR screens is due to it being 4 times brighter than the P. The perceived contrast on it doesn't match the numbers. If the cinema bars could somehow stay dark, these conversations would be way different. Maybe someday I'll be able to view some critical content on a local z9d so I can see it for myself.

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Horizontal lines Z9D

Recently developed horizontal lines across the whole screen does anyone know what could cause this. This is on every input even the over the air antenna. What could be the cause of this?
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Recently developed horizontal lines across the whole screen does anyone know what could cause this. This is on every input even the over the air antenna. What could be the cause of this?
I have this too! Noticed it recently. I’ve done multiple restarts and resets including the nuclear reset twice. I’m so disappointed and want to scream like your avatar. Everything else about the TV is working and doesn’t point to hardware issues. Software? Let me know what you find out. I’m obsessing about the issue and can’t unsee it.

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Here are some dark room shots. All lights off. Not even Godzilla's atomic breath can affect the black bars...
What Godzilla is this?

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Shin Godzilla. Japanese, only played in American theaters for about a month.
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