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Another thing to look at is your 4K ripping method. Maybe there is work to be done there. This is not something I do so no advice there. My main use for Plex is OTA DVR.
Currently there is only one way that I am aware of to rip 4k blu ray discs- MakeMKV. It outputs full uncompressed backups.

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Where did you get it? OTA or via internet + USB?
The update notification showed up when I turned on the TV this morning. I let it go ahead and download the update direct to the TV.
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Do you have more than 2 PCs or game consoles that can do 4k at 60fps? If not, you don't need more than 2 full bandwidth HDMI inputs.
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I need more ports no matter what either way I want to make sure I’m future proofed.
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New 75Z9D purchaser here, any cheap and reliable recommendations on expanding the 2 full bandwidth hdmi ports.

Ps. I cannot believe a tv this expensive only has to full ports similar to my A1E. But this tv will be used for much more then the A1E was so I need more ports.
My buddy uses this switch with his TV and it supports [email protected], if you need additional full bandwith ports without spending a ton of money. Also, don't forget to get some good cables.


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I need more ports no matter what either way I want to make sure I’m future proofed.
Sony probably assumes that most people needing more than 4 HDMI inputs are using an AVR or external switcher.

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Sony probably assumes that most people needing more than 4 HDMI inputs are using an AVR or external switcher.
I don’t disagree but I don’t use a receiver as I have a definitive w studio sound bar. I def need a worthy switch for these high bandwidth ports.
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I don’t disagree but I don’t use a receiver as I have a definitive w studio sound bar. I def need a worthy switch for these high bandwidth ports.
The switch with link mentioned above is a good one, and quite reliable. I own and use it (with a Sony X940E), and it’s worked just fine for any 4K HDR content.

Another good choice is this one:
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I use it with my 65Z9D, and so far it’s worked flawlessly. 4K HDR @60Hz works perfectly. I use it to switch between a PS4 Pro and Xbox One X.

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Sony probably assumes that most people needing more than 4 HDMI inputs are using an AVR or external switcher.
To be sure. Especially at the original price point, I would think the percentage not using a HDMI SSP/AVR to be quite small. While having a high quality SSP, in a perfect world, I would use at least two as I prefer to use the HDMI 1 port from my OPPO directly to the tv and run HDMI 2 to handle audio.

While ideally a SSP/AVR, one thing is for sure, relying solely on the speakers on the TV would be a travesty. If available budget was such that even a soundbar would be unaffordable, I would highly advocate for getting the TCL 607/617 instead,

Was it SOC limitations that preclude all 4 ports being full range or simply a bean counter thing? Definitely a nice thing that the Z9F has remedied that.

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Was it SOC limitations that preclude all 4 ports being full range or simply a bean counter thing? Definitely a nice thing that the Z9F has remedied that.
Bean counter thing. The SoC is later in the chain from the HDMI board and to it, a 4K60 signal looks the same regardless of input.
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I was also wondering ( complete newbie here! ), is there anyway of connecting active speakers to this tv or is a soundbar or surround receiver the only way of getting sound out of this?

I was actually impressed with the sound of the TV, but that just shows what Im used to, with our 13" laptops..
Hi Northman,

Yes, the Z9D has two audio out options that would support active speakers (IF they also have either of these inputs, too).

There is a miniplug for analog audio out that you could directly plug into an analog miniplug in on the speakers, or you could by a mini plug to RCA cable, if your active speakers only have analog RCA inputs.

Ideally, your active speakers will have a toslink/optical digital input though, and you can pass the digital signal from the TV's toslink/optical output and into the active speaker's toslink/optical input. This should give the best sound.

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Yup, I never use True Cinema because of that exact reason. If Standard with Cinemotion on Low looks good to you then you're all set. There is no right or wrong, only preference. I use Custom with Smoothness at 1 and Cinemotion on High. Has a little bit of jerkiness around bright objects panning, but not as much SOE as Standard. I also find that some movies look totally fine with Standard and others have too much SOE. Not sure if there is a "Silver Bullet" but between those two you should be good to go.
Meanwhile I mostly use the settings you suggested (Cinemotion also on high), motion looks good! Thx again for sharing!
Sometimes I still switch to Standard mode, but only on rare occasions. I think everyone should try these settings at least once, if true cinema doesn't show the expected results
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If anyone around here happens to live in Eastern Tennessee, Magnolia is blowing out their store display. It is sans stand, manuals, and I think 3D glasses =. Also, there are some light scratches on the screen. That said, TV is connected and looks great which considering just how cheap it is might be of interest to someone. They did mention that it has been on display since launch so I would expect it to have in excess of 8000 hours.

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Meanwhile I mostly use the settings you suggested (Cinemotion also on high), motion looks good! Thx again for sharing!
Sometimes I still switch to Standard mode, but only on rare occasions. I think everyone should try these settings at least once, if true cinema doesn't show the expected results
Agreed. I have pretty much left motion alone for a few weeks and am more than happy.

Motionflow set to custom- Smoothness at 1, Clearness at Min, Cinemotion on High. Seems pretty close to perfect.

I did find that having xtended dynamic range too high was the culprit for the "jerkiness" in motion. So I have it on low for SDR content. So HDR has a tiny bit of it since it's on high but it's not bad at all. Again, mostly around bright objects panning across the screen. However, I had to reboot the tv since then and I have to say, it also seemed to smooth motion out a bit. Wondering if all of the updates mine did right after I set it up caused a hangup somewhere in the picture processing.

I remembered that my 900e also started doing some whacky jerkiness with motion at one point and a hard reboot fixed it. So like all technology, it may serve us all well to do a full reboot every so often just to clear the CPUs in the set.

Motion was my main concern when I purchased the z9d, have to say it should not be a concern of anyone thinking about picking this tv up. I can't speak for the 65 inch, but most owners that have discussed it seem to agree.
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While it would be impossible for me to ascribe performance specifically to connection speed without the ability to isolate other factors such as the processor, what I can say is that streaming Netflix and--particularly--Amazon Video in UHD is considerably snappier and less glitchy on both the Shield TV and Firestick 4K than it was on the Z9D.
Netflix definitely takes some advantage of extra bandwidth. Sometimes it'll burst a big >15mbit read, then cruise at a lower speed. It's not exactly read ahead buffering (which Netflix should but doesn't do). That has nothing to do with Z9D playback issues, which are 100% CPU related. The bursting is above 25mbit, but well below the Z9D's pathetic networking limit.

YouTube used to do full read-ahead buffering -- it would max out your connection until the video was fully downloaded, so you could pause and skip around instantly. Death to Dash.

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I"ve been playing around with motion settings for SDR. Currently using Motionflow Custom - Smoothness min - Clearness 1. My brightness level is around 25, what level would bring me at abut 140nits. I seen a post with different nits measurements but can't seem to find it now. Before my brightness level for SDR was 7, using Motionflow - TrueCinema. For HDR I use Cinema Pro and use Motionflow - TrueCinema.
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I'm having issues with the screen being too dark after a software update yesterday. My brightness is at 30 and changing it to 50 doesn't make any appreciable difference. Anyone else having a problem?
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I'm having issues with the screen being too dark after a software update yesterday. My brightness is at 30 and changing it to 50 doesn't make any appreciable difference. Anyone else having a problem?
Admirain8 in the x900e thread is having a very similar issue.
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Admirain8 in the x900e thread is having a very similar issue.
That's... not... good...

I wonder if a factory reset can help.

*EDIT* Saw this thread and it looks like a factory reset fixed the problem for one owner.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bravia/comm...d_me_now_then/

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[quote=mutelight;57194728]That's... not... good...

I wonder if a factory reset can help.

*EDIT* Saw this thread and it looks like a factory reset fixed the problem for one owner.


Thank you! That did seem to fix the issue. Now I just gotta figure out why my PS4 is now telling me that it will only display in 2k HDR instead of 4K HDR and then I will be golden.
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Thank you! That did seem to fix the issue. Now I just gotta figure out why my PS4 is now telling me that it will only display in 2k HDR instead of 4K HDR and then I will be golden.
You will have to set the HDMI port to "Enhanced" again.
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Admirain8 in the x900e thread is having a very similar issue.
That's... not... good...

I wonder if a factory reset can help.

*EDIT* Saw this thread and it looks like a factory reset fixed the problem for one owner.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bravia/comm...d_me_now_then/
Very nice!
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You will have to set the HDMI port to "Enhanced" again.
Right again! I figured it out shortly after I posted that after poking around in the settings a bit more. Maybe you can go for the turkey? I have my Z9D hooked up to an HTNT5 and after reset the sound just seems kind of off to me, a bit flat. I went to the sound settings and saw there's a bunch of sound field options, but since the input in the background goes out I can't compare the sound fields on the fly and figure out if it actually changed or if I am crazy. Is there a sort of "Best" option when it comes to this sort of thing?
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Has anyone here gone from a plasma to this TV?

I currently own a 10 year old Pioneer Elite Kuro 60" plasma. I can now get the 75" version of the Z9D for a good price. Would you see this as a big upgrade?

My first choice would have been a 77" C8 OLED but that is priced in the stratosphere. So debating on whether to get this TV or wait a few more years to get a large OLED.

I would be using it mostly to watch sports, movies and the occasional PS4 pro gaming (would also install bias lighting strips). I would hook up an apple TV 4k box to it too.

Black level in the Z9D is good and wondering how it would compared to the plasma. Brightness would be a whole new level of course. Only area where it would be worse is motion as nothing beats plasma in that regard but I think I can live with that.


Appreciate any feedback.
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With several owners reporting very recent build dates, is it possible that Sony is using a different panel for the latest Zs, or would they actually have many original 2016 panels mothballed away for future assembly? I can't imagine they're still manufacturing the original panels in 2018. Also, the fact that Sony is apparently still building the Z9D after the release of it's successor speaks volumes about the Z9F's place in the "flagship" hierarchy. It's become clear that Sony is moving away from high-end LCDs, thereby crowning the A9F as the top model for 2018 and the near future. That's a true shame.
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Let me know when you get it settled, you can PM me anytime and i'd be more than happy to share any setting I've settled on for my "sports" mode and any other questions
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Looking into getting the XBOX One X to go along with my Z9D. Question is..., with what I currently have, would I have any issues with 4K etc...? Thank you

My current setup is as follows:
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Has anyone here gone from a plasma to this TV?

I currently own a 10 year old Pioneer Elite Kuro 60" plasma. I can now get the 75" version of the Z9D for a good price. Would you see this as a big upgrade?

My first choice would have been a 77" C8 OLED but that is priced in the stratosphere. So debating on whether to get this TV or wait a few more years to get a large OLED.

I would be using it mostly to watch sports, movies and the occasional PS4 pro gaming (would also install bias lighting strips). I would hook up an apple TV 4k box to it too.

Black level in the Z9D is good and wondering how it would compared to the plasma. Brightness would be a whole new level of course. Only area where it would be worse is motion as nothing beats plasma in that regard but I think I can live with that.


Appreciate any feedback.
Both of these two members were in a similar situation and have bought a Z9D coming from a Plasma .
I know @schwock5 totally love his 75" Z9D and has tips for his custom motion settings he uses that he has stated are " Plasma" like . I just put words in "his mouth" but it was something to that order. And @purplerain
and I has conversed via PM and he is getting use to his new Z9D coming from his plasma . 'schwock' if you send him a PM with your concerns Pro's and Con's I am sure will has very good insight to your 'quarry'
I say 75"Z9D all the way don't wait . But My Plasma was 10 years ago and I live at 8,000 ft elevation and the Plasma ran hot and had a 'Hum' do to elevation. It will take some adjustment for your eye's& brain after staring at a 60" 'Plasma' for 10 years. But I fell confident you will not have buyers remorse once you adjust to the larger TV and its variances . PM @schwock5 he is a nice person we have exchanged PM's in the past . Good luck .
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Looking into getting the XBOX One X to go along with my Z9D. Question is..., with what I currently have, would I have any issues with 4K etc...? Thank you

My current setup is as follows:
(2) Monitor Audio RX FX surrounds
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Has anyone here gone from a plasma to this TV?

I currently own a 10 year old Pioneer Elite Kuro 60" plasma. I can now get the 75" version of the Z9D for a good price. Would you see this as a big upgrade?

My first choice would have been a 77" C8 OLED but that is priced in the stratosphere. So debating on whether to get this TV or wait a few more years to get a large OLED.

I would be using it mostly to watch sports, movies and the occasional PS4 pro gaming (would also install bias lighting strips). I would hook up an apple TV 4k box to it too.

Black level in the Z9D is good and wondering how it would compared to the plasma. Brightness would be a whole new level of course. Only area where it would be worse is motion as nothing beats plasma in that regard but I think I can live with that.


Appreciate any feedback.
Both of these two members were in a similar situation and have bought a Z9D coming from a Plasma .
I know @schwock5 totally love his 75" Z9D and has tips for his custom motion settings he uses that he has stated are " Plasma" like . I just put words in "his mouth" but it was something to that order. And @purplerain
and I has conversed via PM and he is getting use to his new Z9D coming from his plasma . 'schwock' if you send him a PM with your concerns Pro's and Con's I am sure will has very good insight to your 'quarry'
I say 75"Z9D all the way don't wait . But My Plasma was 10 years ago and I live at 8,000 ft elevation and the Plasma ran hot and had a 'Hum' do to elevation. It will take some adjustment for your eye's& brain after staring at a 60" 'Plasma' for 10 years. But I fell confident you will not have buyers remorse once you adjust to the larger TV and its variances . PM @schwock5 he is a nice person we have exchanged PM's in the past . Good luck .
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Has anyone here gone from a plasma to this TV?

I currently own a 10 year old Pioneer Elite Kuro 60" plasma. I can now get the 75" version of the Z9D for a good price. Would you see this as a big upgrade?

My first choice would have been a 77" C8 OLED but that is priced in the stratosphere. So debating on whether to get this TV or wait a few more years to get a large OLED.

I would be using it mostly to watch sports, movies and the occasional PS4 pro gaming (would also install bias lighting strips). I would hook up an apple TV 4k box to it too.

Black level in the Z9D is good and wondering how it would compared to the plasma. Brightness would be a whole new level of course. Only area where it would be worse is motion as nothing beats plasma in that regard but I think I can live with that.


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I have not, how ever there are plenty of folks in these 600+ pages of this thread that have, I have seen a few reviews online Amazon/Best Buy/Sony about Plasma owners going to this TV, with great reviews. I never owned a Plasma TV, but I had Plasma DMD on my pinball they dont last very long with the vibration motors and coils firing, LCD/LED have very long life one nice thing about these TV's is its going to be around a long time. Motion is best on Sony's vs other brands, but not perfect. Blacks are crazy good on this Z9D, its literally the best LCD/LED ever made hands down, w/ Dolby Vision & 3D. The brightness will need to be turned down, seriously bright, when you get it, turn off your light sensor.



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With several owners reporting very recent build dates, is it possible that Sony is using a different panel for the latest Zs, or would they actually have many original 2016 panels mothballed away for future assembly? I can't imagine they're still manufacturing the original panels in 2018. Also, the fact that Sony is apparently still building the Z9D after the release of it's successor speaks volumes about the Z9F's place in the "flagship" hierarchy. It's become clear that Sony is moving away from high-end LCDs, thereby crowning the A9F as the top model for 2018 and the near future. That's a true shame.

I just sold my brand new 65" Z9D to my brother, but it was manufactured Sept 2018, so yes they still make them. Twin 75's Z9D's for me could not believe they dropped 2.5K crazy good deal on 75's.

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Has anyone here gone from a plasma to this TV?

I currently own a 10 year old Pioneer Elite Kuro 60" plasma. I can now get the 75" version of the Z9D for a good price. Would you see this as a big upgrade?

My first choice would have been a 77" C8 OLED but that is priced in the stratosphere. So debating on whether to get this TV or wait a few more years to get a large OLED.

I would be using it mostly to watch sports, movies and the occasional PS4 pro gaming (would also install bias lighting strips). I would hook up an apple TV 4k box to it too.

Black level in the Z9D is good and wondering how it would compared to the plasma. Brightness would be a whole new level of course. Only area where it would be worse is motion as nothing beats plasma in that regard but I think I can live with that.


Appreciate any feedback.

I went from a Panasonic 65VT50 to my 65Z9D and am glad I did. At the time I hated to give up the VT50 because it had such a good picture, except for white. It was a dirty white, almost gray. The whites on the Z9D are brilliant. I watch hockey and the ice is actually white, not gray. For me, not sure why people say blacks are not up to snuff. Plenty black for me. Night scenes look dark to me. No problem at all with motion. No "tails" when watching hockey, football, etc. Games look great too.


I can safely say this is the best tv I have ever owned!!


I would say go for the Z9D and don't look back. You will not regret it.

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Has anyone here gone from a plasma to this TV?

I currently own a 10 year old Pioneer Elite Kuro 60" plasma. I can now get the 75" version of the Z9D for a good price. Would you see this as a big upgrade?

My first choice would have been a 77" C8 OLED but that is priced in the stratosphere. So debating on whether to get this TV or wait a few more years to get a large OLED.

I would be using it mostly to watch sports, movies and the occasional PS4 pro gaming (would also install bias lighting strips). I would hook up an apple TV 4k box to it too.

Black level in the Z9D is good and wondering how it would compared to the plasma. Brightness would be a whole new level of course. Only area where it would be worse is motion as nothing beats plasma in that regard but I think I can live with that.


Appreciate any feedback.
I still have a Samsung PN60F8500 Plasma. Had a Pioneer 5070 Plasma before that. I still really like the Samsung. Very nice TV. Very Bright for a Plasma. The Pioneer was a good TV in its day, but not bright like the Samsung. Ive had the Z9D for a month now and really like it. LED TVs have come a long way. There is nothing not to like about this TV.
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