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post #20941 of 21786 Old 04-03-2019, 02:51 PM
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Are these older firmware files available for download somewhere? Sony only shows the latest. When/if my 65z9d shows up from my Amazon order on the 30th, I don't know what firmware it will have on it.
If it shows up with Oreo, you can't revert to a prior version. If it shows up with a prior version, it won't automatically update unless Sony has removed the "hold" on Oreo. In that case, hopefully the problems will have been resolved.

Personally, I updated to Oreo via a usb file copied from the Sony site. I initially had problems with fact that my ARC audio "disappeared". However, it mysteriously reappeared after a month or two; and at this point I'm glad that I accomplished the update.

Bottom line: I wouldn't worry about it.

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I noticed it on my 930E in the office last night, I assume my other TVs have it too.

For me it was a line or gray boxes since they are likely getting swallowed up my the Pi-hole on my network but even though they are blank, that still seriously irritates me.

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1- Remove updates to ATV Core Services
2- Go to menu and disable (-) Sponsored channel
3- Reinstall updates for Core Services

Credit goes to this user on Reddit.

Question: How does one go about reinstalling updates for Core Services (step 3 above)?

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Question: How does one go about reinstalling updates for Core Services (step 3 above)?
The update is available in the Play Store.
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The update is available in the Play Store.

Thank you! (Somehow I had failed to make the obvious connection. Call it a senior moment.)

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The version your Z9D is running PKG6 5269.0177NAA is fine. In my opinion you should not install "OREO" .
OREO while many have not had issues . Many have had multiple problematic issues over and beyond what Sony has acknowledged . The OREO issues Sony has acknowledge out out lined in a link I attached below.

Sony recommends Not to install this latest update yet. Congrats on you new Z9D
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https://www.sony.com/electronics/sup...loads/00015771
Thanks Rob, I thought I read somewhere on this thread that it a little faster/easier. I will wait until everything is sorted out
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Are these older firmware files available for download somewhere? Sony only shows the latest. When/if my 65z9d shows up from my Amazon order on the 30th, I don't know what firmware it will have on it.
I have most of the versions they ever released for this model. I don't know how to apply an older update over top of a newer one.
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I have most of the versions they ever released for this model. I don't know how to apply an older update over top of a newer one.
Unfortunately you cannot go backwards with releases.
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Hello Z9D owners. After owning a Q9FN for almost a year and not being completely satisfied with the set, I have somewhat concluded that a Z9D should be a worthy replacement. Being outside the US there are virtually no stock anywhere, but I managed to find an open box 65Z9D locally that I can get a good deal on with a great extended warranty. So the question is;Is the Z9D still considered a heavy hitter in 2019? Motion and blooming being the bigger culprits on my current set I'm hoping that this will outperform the Sammy in both regards.
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I noticed a funny problem with my 75".
I cannot get it to display HDR signal over HDMI3. It is working correctly with HDMI2 however. It is my understanding only these two inputs should work with HDR. Does anyone know what could be wrong?
The enhanced signal format appears to be a global setting and not per input, unless I'm missing something.
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I use a sub woofer connected to my 75z9d in the head phone jack on the tv. I have to reset the sound to the head phone jack out each time I turn on the tv because when it is turned on, all sound goes through the sub woofer, so all muffled; not just the base. I have to go back to sound settings and then go to head phone, then back to sub woofer and ok; and it works fine until tv is shut off. I never had this problem with my 75-940c.

Also what is the secret to use the colored buttons on the remote for quick mode for different functions. Thanks for any help.
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I noticed a funny problem with my 75".
I cannot get it to display HDR signal over HDMI3. It is working correctly with HDMI2 however. It is my understanding only these two inputs should work with HDR. Does anyone know what could be wrong?
The enhanced signal format appears to be a global setting and not per input, unless I'm missing something.


The enhanced setting is input specific.


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The enhanced setting is input specific.
Can you please explain how to change it? I only see the option in the attached photo.
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Can you please explain how to change it? I only see the option in the attached photo.
you did it correctly. its one setting that cover 2 and 3 as stated/shown in your pic.

weird that it wont work on 3 for you. never heard that

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I noticed a funny problem with my 75".
I cannot get it to display HDR signal over HDMI3. It is working correctly with HDMI2 however. It is my understanding only these two inputs should work with HDR. Does anyone know what could be wrong?
The enhanced signal format appears to be a global setting and not per input, unless I'm missing something.
Select a HDMI 3 input. Go to home/settings/ext inputs/hdmi sig format and select "enhanced".

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Hello Z9D owners. After owning a Q9FN for almost a year and not being completely satisfied with the set, I have somewhat concluded that a Z9D should be a worthy replacement. Being outside the US there are virtually no stock anywhere, but I managed to find an open box 65Z9D locally that I can get a good deal on with a great extended warranty. So the question is;Is the Z9D still considered a heavy hitter in 2019? Motion and blooming being the bigger culprits on my current set I'm hoping that this will outperform the Sammy in both regards.
I have a 75 and the motion is excellent and blooming is almost non-existent. The 65 does have a slower pixel response in some transitions but most on this thread say they never really notice it. Motion is generally viewed as excellent. I am not a huge fan of Samsung motion. Sony all the way in that department.
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I have a 75 and the motion is excellent and blooming is almost non-existent. The 65 does have a slower pixel response in some transitions but most on this thread say they never really notice it. Motion is generally viewed as excellent. I am not a huge fan of Samsung motion. Sony all the way in that department.
Sony all the way in every department I would say. I've never owned another brand of TV in my life.
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I seem to remember this being discussed before but I don't remember what the conclusion was. I basically am using 4 of the picture modes; Cinema Pro, Cinema Home, Custom and Standard. My question is if one were to use the exact same picture settings for each of those 4 picture modes I mentioned would the Picture look exactly the same or do each of the picture modes have there own differences regardless if one was to choose the same picture settings for all four?

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I seem to remember this being discussed before but I don't remember what the conclusion was. I basically am using 4 of the picture modes; Cinema Pro, Cinema Home, Custom and Standard. My question is if one were to use the exact same picture settings for each of those 4 picture modes I mentioned would the Picture look exactly the same or do each of the picture modes have there own differences regardless if one was to choose the same picture settings for all four?
Home and Pro are 99% identical except the Contrast is shifted a little. However Home at Contrast 95 is the same as Pro on 85 (delta 10).

They both tone map, while Custom has a hard clip.

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Well, I guess I'm bidding everyone farewell, as recent dire family circumstances resulted in me not being able to indulge on the last great 3D LCD TV (Best Buy's inability to fulfill my order last month was probably a blessing in disguise). The OLEDs will have to hold up for the foreseeable future (an admittedly scary thought knowing their premature aging susceptibilities). Thanks for the advice along the way.
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Well, I guess I'm bidding everyone farewell, as recent dire family circumstances resulted in me not being able to indulge on the last great 3D LCD TV (Best Buy's inability to fulfill my order last month was probably a blessing in disguise). The OLEDs will have to hold up for the foreseeable future (an admittedly scary thought knowing their premature aging susceptibilities). Thanks for the advice along the way.

Never say never: Keep on the lookout and you are almost certain to find a deal somewhere out there depending on your budget and needs (65" or 75").
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Well, I guess I'm bidding everyone farewell, as recent dire family circumstances resulted in me not being able to indulge on the last great 3D LCD TV (Best Buy's inability to fulfill my order last month was probably a blessing in disguise). The OLEDs will have to hold up for the foreseeable future (an admittedly scary thought knowing their premature aging susceptibilities). Thanks for the advice along the way.
Sorry to hear of your miss-fortune I hope everything works out. Obviously family is more important.

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Home and Pro are 99% identical except the Contrast is shifted a little. However Home at Contrast 95 is the same as Pro on 85 (delta 10).

They both tone map, while Custom has a hard clip.
Thanks for that pbz06. What about the Standard picture mode is there any different characteristics with it?

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Sure, my order is still showing shipping Monday(today), so I'll see if it changes soon. I also noticed as of this evening the 65z9d is no longer available on Amazon. I hope they actually had them in stock.


So is it recommended to Not update the firmware to Oreo??? I have a Sony STR-DN1070 Receiver.
Hey Gullzway,

Did that 65Z9D ever come? If so, any details?

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Hey Gullzway,

Did that 65Z9D ever come? If so, any details?

Thanks.

Nope. My Amazon order still shows "Should have shipped April 1" and an arrival date of April 13-14.


So I'm not sure at this point, it may have been an error and they didn't actually have them? I can only wait and see. They did already charge me for the 4 yr protection plan, so I'll have to get that refunded if they cancel the TV order.
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Home and Pro are 99% identical except the Contrast is shifted a little. However Home at Contrast 95 is the same as Pro on 85 (delta 10).

They both tone map, while Custom has a hard clip.
I don't think that is the case anymore...post Oreo update. I'm sure @jrref can chime in though.

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Anyone with insight on firware for the Asia-Pacific market. We still have V6.5629 from last year. Seems like a long time since the USA release of v6.5830.
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Thanks, yeah I think I narrowed it down to the frame actually being slightly bent in there...I think if I can bend the frame back and take the pressure off it will make it better (would be nice if it completely removed it but will have to see).

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Now I just have to figure out how it comes apart. As mentioned in the thread I tried to bending it back by pulling with my fingernails but because I have to put some pressure on the LCD that way I'm wondering if there isn't a better way....
Well good news--I fixed my Z9D Turns out no pressure damage, just a reflective mask that got pinched behind the panel--set it right and TV is great now! Made a good deal into a killer deal, heh

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If anyone needs to take theirs apart--there's no S/M easily available on the internet right now but I can give you a few tips on removing the back... There's several "hidden" screws. In addition to the regular covers there's more of them. Two screws at the bottom of the back sit underneath little covers on each side. You need to slide them downwards but put pressure in the top middle while sliding to release the catch. I thought they popped off and ended up breaking one--they slide! Then, where the power cord goes into the unit it's almost the same deal but just a much larger "slider". On this one you have to do the same thing and push down on the edge while sliding sideways towards the middle of the set and that long cover will come off. You can then remove the power cord by disconnecting it from the PSU board. (As a side not there's some pretty spiffy looking gold colour Rubycon caps on that power board--you can see this thing was built high-end.)

Over on the inputs side there's another cover that comes off like the normal ones but you just have to remove one screw. It looks like this was a place to put some kind of module (cable card??) into the TV but no such slot exists on the board--maybe used for other countries, I dunno.

Finally to remove the back, once you have all the screws out, you'll need to move these two "sliders" on each side of the set to release the back cover. This is not really too obvious but there's two screws you removed before (one is under the electrical-cord-side cover) and if you look closely you'll see two small arrows showing you need to slide the things they were screwed into. You slide those up on each side and the back cover releases. Then you tilt up the back cover from the bottom and the top is just secured into the top of the frame via a "lip" type catch along the whole edge--pretty simple to just keep tilting the cover until the lip is able to release.

There aren't any wires connecting to anything to the back to worry about. There's a little cover on the bottom of the TV that comes off after everything else and it has what looks to be the Wifi and possibly IR boards--there's one antenna connection here (it seems the entire frame of the TV acts as a Wifi antenna!), and two little harness connectors. Once those are off you can just slide off that bottom piece.
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Anyone with insight on firware for the Asia-Pacific market. We still have V6.5629 from last year. Seems like a long time since the USA release of v6.5830.

i'm in the US and still waiting for the OTA update since I can't reach the usb port (wall mounted), a couple of months ago Sony pulled the update to work on some things so no idea of an ETA tbh.
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i'm in the US and still waiting for the OTA update since I can't reach the usb port (wall mounted), a couple of months ago Sony pulled the update to work on some things so no idea of an ETA tbh.
I'm wall mounted too. The only reason I was interested in the update was to try and solve an issue with my Yamaha 2070 receiver, but I think it's a yamaha issue. The arc feature used to work great but now the received just shuts off after 20 minutes, then powers back on. The yamaha has had 2 updates so it is probably the culprit.



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