Originally Posted by lordj
All I can say is I returned a KS for a P65 and couldn't be happier. The KS has major blooming and some light bleed, motion handling sucks too. The P65 not literally coming apart is also an added bonus.
Are you me posting under another handle because I just went through a similar path?
Despite having just bought a M60-C3 (4K, non-HDR 2015 model) only 10 months ago, I was getting the itch for some HDR action even though I know there's very little content right now. I had no issues with the M60 other than silly upgraditis. With the "Big Game" sales going on, the last cheap prices we'll see until the 2017s hit stores and 2016s get marked down, this was the week I buy before waiting until summer.
My first pick was the Vizio P65 because I like the FALD Vizios have made standard and I watch a lot of movies at night and short of the prohibitively expensive OLEDs*, offered the best black levels. Not wanting to go smaller was a factor as well.
In another post I was making the case for buying a smaller TV and sitting closer to maintain the perceptual size and it occurred to me that since moving a 55" set only FOUR INCHES closer would make it appear as large as the 60" I could move down to the $1000 price range where the KS8000 was from the $1550 the P65 was on sale at Costco. I'd also be able to take it home in my car and set it up myself, unlike the beastly P65 box would require.
I brought it home and looked at some YouTube HDR videos and thought the colors were bright and punchy and was congratulating myself on saving a bundle.
Then I watched Gravity.
Due to the inherent limitations of edge-lighting, everything that I'd feared about potential compromises erupted. I knew that flashlighting, blooming, weak blacks were going to be an issue, but short of dialing back the backlight to a point where everything looked blah, I realized that for MY use case, this wasn't going to work. If I watched fullscreen TV or 1.85:1 movie content, perhaps I could've dealt; but looking at movies with letterbox bars was the deal-breaker.
I was texting a buddy yesterday morning about how that 2nd night had raised some flags and told him I was 55-45 about taking it back. By lunchtime I was committed to switching. Pinged another buddy to borrow his work van and went to Costco at lunch to buy it. Picked it up after work and after shuffling the sets around, I fired up the P65 and went to look at the LG OLED store demos - Chess and the Jazz Club ones are good - on YouTube and immediately thought how I'd spent almost $600 more for this TV and how it was....
So worth it. No regrets at all.
I had read the P-series owners thread about issues which seem mostly involving the P75 set and was concerned, but so far I'm not seeing any of the flaws the troll baiting here is flinging. Is the set flawless? Probably not, but compared to the KS8000, it's an entirely different league and for those shopping in the $1500 65-inch waters, it's not even close IMO.
TL;DR: Bought a KS8000, looked at it and went and spent 60% more for a P65 because #BlackLevelsMatter.
*A friend once asked my opinion of LG OLEDs and I replied, They look like sex and cost as much."