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When trying to watch a 4k movie from DirecTV my Sony 4K XBR55X930E will post that the highest resolution is 720p. The DirecTV MiniGenie has all resolutions checked. Question, how do I get the 930E to display 4K?
Have you set the output of the STB to 4k?
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I upgraded to the 930E from a 50” Panasonic Plasma. I moved the Plasma to the bedroom.
My 930E looks absolutely great, but I have to admit that the Plasma looks a bit more “Natural”.
To those of you who upgraded from a plasma, how do you feel the 930E picture compares?

I have both plasma and x930e and the x930e looks better after making adjustments to the picture, as the default settings are quite garish and exaggerated. What are your picture settings?
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I have both plasma and x930e and the x930e looks better after making adjustments to the picture, as the default settings are quite garish and exaggerated. What are your picture settings?
I tweaked the settings and the picture looks great. Just not quite as warm and natural as the Plasma.
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Hi I'm very new to all of this and I was wondering if there was anyone willing to help me understand how the Dolby vision works and how can you tell if your watching ot or just the hdr10. I have the 65 inch version of the 930e and just bought the lg ubk90 4k player but I've just seen a few articles that they may not be compatible with each other please help

I am wondering if have been able to verify if the LG UBK90 displays Dolby Vision on the X930e (4K Blu Rays)? I see that Costco is selling the UBK90 at for $130-ish during BF. I would like to pick one up if Dolby Vision Blu-Rays play on the 930e. I also don't see a definitive anywhere online. I also contacted LG and they gave me a super vague response.
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Loving new 930E blows my mind hour after hour of viewing time via Apple TV 4K! Wondering now how to program the TVs remote to control my Sony Bluray player. Any idea how to program this remote? I have all SONY components including receiver and couldn’t find any specifics regarding the 930E. Thx


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I tweaked the settings and the picture looks great. Just not quite as warm and natural as the Plasma.
Kind of like Tubes vs. Solid State Amps in Audio. I have a 60" Pioneer Kuro Plasma that I had professionally calibrated and a 65" 930E that I've been messing around with the color calibrations on and although I understand what your saying, it does seem like things like the grass on football fields look more natural on a plasma screen than LED you will like the results on the 930E if you spend some time calibrating it or even have it professionally calibrated especially with the additional detail/resolution the 930E really excels at.
I do wish they made 4K plasma TV's though.

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Loving new 930E blows my mind hour after hour of viewing time via Apple TV 4K! Wondering now how to program the TVs remote to control my Sony Bluray player. Any idea how to program this remote? I have all SONY components including receiver and couldn’t find any specifics regarding the 930E. Thx


Probably with Bravia Sync (CEC) turned on but there are pros and cons with CEC.


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I am wondering if have been able to verify if the LG UBK90 displays Dolby Vision on the X930e (4K Blu Rays)? I see that Costco is selling the UBK90 at for $130-ish during BF. I would like to pick one up if Dolby Vision Blu-Rays play on the 930e. I also don't see a definitive anywhere online. I also contacted LG and they gave me a super vague response.
Thanks and welcome!!
I have a 930E and also purchased a UBK90. I dont use the UBK90 much, just have about 10 4K Blurays. But last time I checked it would not
play Dolby Vision on the Sony. Sony is using a weird profile. They implied that it might play DV at a later date via an upgrade, but last I checked there were no updates.
I will check it again later today and give you an update.

UPDATE:
I tried to play a Dolby Vision Bluray and it shows HDR but not DV.
Also tried to play "Lost in Space" on Netflix and does not show DV.
Tried to update the UBK90 and no updates available.
Looks like we are out of luck.

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I have a 930E and also purchased a UBK90. I dont use the UBK90 much, just have about 10 4K Blurays. But last time I checked it would not
play Dolby Vision on the Sony. Sony is using a weird profile. They implied that it might play DV at a later date via an upgrade, but last I checked there were no updates.
I will check it again later today and give you an update.

UPDATE:
I tried to play a Dolby Vision Bluray and it shows HDR but not DV.
Also tried to play "Lost in Space" on Netflix and does not show DV.
Tried to update the UBK90 and no updates available.
Looks like we are out of luck.

Thank you for verifying this with me. This is what I had expected, but was hoping we would get lucky.
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I recently noticed that HDR content plays back much brighter and with more contrast on my tvs android apps when compared to playback via my apple tv set to HDR output. I use VLC app on both to access my HDR videos from my NAS. VLC and even the Sony video app is much brighter than through my apple 4k.
I have noticed the Apple TV being dimmer as well. Compared to my Sony ubp-x700 it is clearly less vibrant. I have no idea what is causing this. I wish I had another brand TV that I could use to narrow now down the culprit.
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Any 930E owners grab a Panny UB820? My X700 crapped out and I was just gonna have them swap it out for another but surprisingly my wife pushed me to get the Panny.

She remembered all the issues I had with multiple X800’s and said don’t get another Sony then. Even the Best Buy backed me up that the Panny was the only other player they had to do DV with my TV. She really floored me when she didn’t even put up a fight and simply said if it’s supposed to be that good and reliable to just spend the extra now and stop swapping out players!! Early Christmas gift to me and I wasn’t gonna say no lol.

I started reading through the owners thread for the player but just curious if any owners here nabbed one and what settings for the optimizer your using? The Best Buy I went to didn’t have one but they put me in for a pick up at another local store I’m gonna run to tomorrow.

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^^^ Can't help you with settings, but it's great news that the 820 I've been eyeballing since it was announced already supports Sony's confusing implementation of Dolby Vision. I'm considering picking up a Q9FN if they ever fix the black crush issue, so the Panny works there too with HDR10+ support. The 820 might be the next Oppo (- the fantastic build quality) as far as best audio/video support.
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Back to the 930E, I've never owned a Sony before, but always heard about the superb upscaling. I guess I was expecting miracles, but my badly compressed (and interlaced) Spectrum feed still looks like s**t. The 1080p Spectrum TV app, on the other hand, is a wonder to behold, almost true 4k quality. I'll second the Teoh bow.
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I have noticed the Apple TV being dimmer as well. Compared to my Sony ubp-x700 it is clearly less vibrant. I have no idea what is causing this. I wish I had another brand TV that I could use to narrow now down the culprit.
Its definitely the TV. I too was trying to find the culprit so i hooked up my Apple TV to my other Tv which is an LG OLED and discovered that Dolby Vision looks the same when comparing the internal apps on the OLED vs the same apps on the Apple TV. I tried Vudu, Netflix and Amazon. Same result on all of them. On the Sony, the difference is so noticeable that I end up going through the hassle of switching to the internal apps anytime Im watching something in Dolby Vision.
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Back to the 930E, I've never owned a Sony before, but always heard about the superb upscaling. I guess I was expecting miracles, but my badly compressed (and interlaced) Spectrum feed still looks like s**t. The 1080p Spectrum TV app, on the other hand, is a wonder to behold, almost true 4k quality. I'll second the Teoh bow.
Sure does! Beats the Apple 4k upscaling too.
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I have noticed the Apple TV being dimmer as well. Compared to my Sony ubp-x700 it is clearly less vibrant. I have no idea what is causing this. I wish I had another brand TV that I could use to narrow now down the culprit.


Its definitely the TV. I too was trying to find the culprit so i hooked up my Apple TV to my other Tv which is an LG OLED and discovered that Dolby Vision looks the same when comparing the internal apps on the OLED vs the same apps on the Apple TV. I tried Vudu, Netflix and Amazon. Same result on all of them. On the Sony, the difference is so noticeable that I end up going through the hassle of switching to the internal apps anytime Im watching something in Dolby Vision.
Thank you! So I’m not loosing my mind. I didn’t have another tv to test the theory out on. It must be something with Sony’s HDMI. I won’t even watch anything in HDR or DV on an external device (ATV, Xbox, or Roku.) the apps on the tv look much better.
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Thank you! So I’m not loosing my mind. I didn’t have another tv to test the theory out on. It must be something with Sony’s HDMI. I won’t even watch anything in HDR or DV on an external device (ATV, Xbox, or Roku.) the apps on the tv look much better.
How do you watch DV blurays?
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Thank you! So I’m not loosing my mind. I didn’t have another tv to test the theory out on. It must be something with Sony’s HDMI. I won’t even watch anything in HDR or DV on an external device (ATV, Xbox, or Roku.) the apps on the tv look much better.
How do you watch DV blurays?
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And so the image is not as bright even watching Blurays in HDR?
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And so the image is not as bright even watching Blurays in HDR?
Correct. Even when I compare the Netflix app in DV to the tv app. I don’t think it is just the Apple TV. All of my devices(ATV,Xbox,Roku streaming stick +) are dimmer than the tv apps. I have tried multiple hdmi cables. And my settings for the hdmi on the tv are correct.
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Correct. Even when I compare the Netflix app in DV to the tv app. I don’t think it is just the Apple TV. All of my devices(ATV,Xbox,Roku sttreaming stick +) are dimmer than the tv apps. I have tried multiple hdmi cables. And my settings for the hdmi on the tv are correct.
Thanks! As i suspected. I've only watched one DV BluRay with the x700 and had to reduce black level to 40 for it to look right. But the movie was dark so didn't notice peak white being off. HDR via the HDMI inputs is suffering from contrast compression. Raised black level and reduced peak brightness.
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Does the ATV4K have the ability to turn off the Dolby Vision or convert it to HDR? I know the Panasonic UB820 has this ability. Watching Dolby Vision is a little darker until there is a white highlight then you can get a tan.
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Does the ATV4K have the ability to turn off the Dolby Vision or convert it to HDR? I know the Panasonic UB820 has this ability. Watching Dolby Vision is a little darker until there is a white highlight then you can get a tan.
Yes, you can force HDR10 and it will internally remap DV content to HDR10 but it isn't without errors.

I did some testing over the past few days and while it wasn't on my 930E, it was on my Z9D and A1E and my conclusion is that the Apple TV has a lower peak brightness than my other sources.

The Xbox, PS4, and Oppo are nice and bright but the Apple TV is overall a bit dimmer.

Last night I was testing Matrix Revolutions in Dolby Vision off the disc and it was retina searing bright and then I tested the opening with the DV encode from the Apple TV and didn't have the same punch.
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Its definitely the TV. I too was trying to find the culprit so i hooked up my Apple TV to my other Tv which is an LG OLED and discovered that Dolby Vision looks the same when comparing the internal apps on the OLED vs the same apps on the Apple TV. I tried Vudu, Netflix and Amazon. Same result on all of them. On the Sony, the difference is so noticeable that I end up going through the hassle of switching to the internal apps anytime Im watching something in Dolby Vision.
Damn dude. I get the same dim, lousy Dolby vision result with the internal and external sources. So much in fact, that I disabled dv and hdr altogether.
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could use some help please

so finally got this bad boy! it and a HTX9000F sound bar. trying to get all this set up now but i've never had a sound bar before. heard i should hook it to ARC (hdmi 3). but i'm confused tho as i'm reading only hdmi 2 and 3 support 4k HDR, so what's the best way to connect stuff here? all i'm connecting now is a Fioptics set top box, my PC (1080ti and 6770k), and the sound bar.

the HTX9000F states it allows 4K HDR pass through. does that mean i should connect my pc and fioptics to the soundbar, then it to ARC HDMI 3??
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I have always run the sources direct into the television then the output of the television to the sound bar. However, the sound bars I have had are not that sophisticated and have been stereo only. Does the sound bar have the ability to video switch?
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could use some help please

so finally got this bad boy! it and a HTX9000F sound bar. trying to get all this set up now but i've never had a sound bar before. heard i should hook it to ARC (hdmi 3). but i'm confused tho as i'm reading only hdmi 2 and 3 support 4k HDR, so what's the best way to connect stuff here? all i'm connecting now is a Fioptics set top box, my PC (1080ti and 6770k), and the sound bar.

the HTX9000F states it allows 4K HDR pass through. does that mean i should connect my pc and fioptics to the soundbar, then it to ARC HDMI 3??
I'd run your TV service box into HDMI 1 or 4 since you won't need the 18Gbps ports for TV, sound bar into HDMI 3 for ARC, then you could run your PC through the soundbar for 4K, that way you still have a 18Gbps port open (HDMI 2) should you ever add another 4K source.
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Thanks! As i suspected. I've only watched one DV BluRay with the x700 and had to reduce black level to 40 for it to look right. But the movie was dark so didn't notice peak white being off. HDR via the HDMI inputs is suffering from contrast compression. Raised black level and reduced peak brightness.
I just checked Netflix on the x-700 vs the internal app and am seeing the same thing. The internal apps were clearly brighter. What's strange is I don't believe I'm seeing the issue on UHD discs. The UHD Dolby Vision discs are clearly more vibrant than the Apple TV versions. So I wonder if there's an issue with the interval apps on the TV being too bright?

I just watched 2001 in Dolby Vision and it was BRIGHT in parts certainly just as bright as what I've seen on the internal apps. So this is really weird problem.
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Issue with TV

All please help.... I have having these messages pop up randomly, has anyone else experienced? I am not sure where they are coming from, it completely takes over my TV now matter what I am watching or which HDMI input I am on.

Any help would be appreciated.
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The UHD Dolby Vision discs are clearly more vibrant than the Apple TV versions. So I wonder if there's an issue with the interval apps on the TV being too bright?

I just watched 2001 in Dolby Vision and it was BRIGHT in parts certainly just as bright as what I've seen on the internal apps. So this is really weird problem.
I can confirm that I also noticed DV Blu-rays are much brighter than the Apple TV and are more like the internal apps.
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