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post #9271 of 10741 Old 11-22-2018, 03:36 AM
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I did a search for picture settings for the 930E and did see both of the ones you mentioned. I will try the AV Forums settings as you suggest. If I’m happy with the tv I may have it professionally calibrated by Chad B. The only display I’ve owned that I didn’t have calibrated was the Vizio.
I'm a neanderthal as I've never had one professionally calibrated. Thought about it a few times but never followed through.


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I will definitely be checking the screen uniformity first thing.
Hopefully you'll get a good one like I did.



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The BEST BUY associate I’ve been dealing with is also the in store SONY expert and when I ordered the tv last night, I made it clear about how picky I will be about the panel.
My Vizio has a good uniform panel and very little blooming. I am concerned about blooming on the SONY.
Im fairly picky as well but I don't run slides or pixel peep too much. I just watch my normal content and use whatever abailable solid splash screen are at my disposal to check uniformity. There's definitely blooming in a completely dark room mitigated with bias lighting but it's still visible. The 4K picture and peak brightness make up for it with me. For SDR content I have my brightness on 20 but for the longest I had it on 15.


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The only reason I’m looking to replace the VIZIO is for the better upscaling of the X1 Extreme processor, brighter picture, which I hope will give me a better HDR experience than what the VIZIO gives me.
Thanks for your input. Will definitely report back what I think this weekend.
The upscaling is pretty darn good and I was almost blinded the first time I watched some HDR streaming content so I think you'll be happy if the panel is ok. Let us know good or bad.
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It'll either get it or it won't. Who cares? It's a TV not a tablet. I'd rather have more updates that effect my picture instead.
What kinda ignorant remark is that lol I care and so do others. I don’t use a tablet and my 930e is my media hub soo ya bud... Speak for yourself.
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What kinda ignorant remark is that lol I care and so do others. I don’t use a tablet and my 930e is my media hub soo ya bud... Speak for yourself.


lol Unless Sony posts it it’s 100% speculation lol. lol


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What kinda ignorant remark is that lol I care and so do others. I don’t use a tablet and my 930e is my media hub soo ya bud... Speak for yourself.
Actually the whole point of a forum is to speak for yourself friend and I'm far from ignorant trust me. I'm referring more towards your insistance that the possibility of an Android operating system upgrade which will actually change little in a TV with an underpowered chipset somehow will give you huge bragging rights about being right about something you yourself even cast some doubt on just a few posts back.


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Any word on android Oreo ? The 930e is listed as one of the 2017 tvs getting it. Timeline from Sony is by end 2018 lol sooo umm ya




I've upgraded dozens of Android devices over the years with official releases and their ability to make large differences in the user experience has diminished greatly in recent years. 5 years ago yeah a new Android skin had a noticeable improvement but that has lessened with the improvements made more recently by integrating a lot of what custom skins had into the official releases and thinning out the ROM. I'm sure there's some here who would be appreciative for the upgrade but categorizing it as some life changing I told you so event just seems a little specious at best.

If it gets it fine. If not no big deal. If it's a choice between a new Android skin and another picture quality improvement I'll pass on the milk and cookies Android upgrade and take the latter. Also please keep the name calling out of your posts when responding to me. We are all grown adults here who love the same hobby and should be able to make our points without having to toss pejoritives. Happy Holidays!
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By the by Happy Thanksgiving to all here who celebrate it. I've learned a lot about my X930E from the many helpful and smart posters in this thread. I read every post and it has helped tremendously. I try to help out in other threads when I can and I appreciate those who do the same in this one. Minor disagreements aside we all chose a great TV to own and the community here makes it easier for new owners to get up and running so kudos for that. One hour left until Turkey time.
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I had a hard time at first but eventually I created a custom resolution in the Nvidia video control panel of 1920x1080 @ 120hz. It was never showing up in the windows display settings. After that everything worked great.


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I've spent at least 6 hours trying to figure this **** out before you came long. For anybody with a Radeon, I had to set the "Timing Standard" to "CVS-Reduced Blinking". After that, manually setting 1920x1080 with 120hz worked like a charm.
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Just for interest what is the logical replacement for my Sony 4K XBR55X930E?

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The Nvidia Shield received the Oreo update some time back and I think it's a downgrade from the previous interface, so I am indifferent regarding its appearance on the x930e.
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Just for interest what is the logical replacement for my Sony 4K XBR55X930E?

Probably either the X900F or the Z9F, depending upon whether you want to spend less or more than the X930E's original price. The Z9F is only available in 65" and 75", so you would have to step up at least 10" in size.
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900F would be for price and performance. Search for A comparison byHdtvtest On YouTube.
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Well I don’t use hdr I have it disabled on my 4k consoles for playback and games. I’ve spent hundreds of dollars in google play video as they offered just sdr 4k movies which I like the look of better. So they just pushed hdr for all the 4k movies on the internal app of google play video.its switches to hdr but isn’t real hdr as it doesn’t max out the settings as it should. Now I disabled hdr in video options and this helped as it doesn’t engage but now the colour is all jacket up on auto. What would be the proper forced non hdr colour ? Bt2020 ? Auto looks way more washed out then I remember.. not happy about being forced to watch hdr content

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So although you can turn off hdr in video options you can’t turn off Dolby vision. With hdr disabled if you go into say Netflix where all hdr is Dolby vision it will still play back in correct Dolby vision.. this a non issues as I have it disabled on consoles I just watch it in sdr 4k via one x or PS4 pro. So I’ve left it off in video apps and apps as well as tv but have left colour space as auto so sdr HD content will play correct on Netflix, YouTube, google play video ect. What’s happening is it’s still pushing fake hdr Color space with the hdr signal off on google play. Nothing I can do as at least it’s sdr 4k now but with simulation hdr colour 🤦🏻*♂️ Not happy if they are going to push blanket fake hdr on there app the should have an option to turn it off like on consoles or Apple 4k so I’ve heard. I’m hoping there will be an option for Dolby vision to be turned off as well in the future. If anyone has any help to hdr in google play let me know.. I know you can watch those purchases in YouTube but they only do 1080p playback 😢 seriously dissatisfied, guess I’ll have to buy uhd disks now

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My 55X930E was delivered today. Couldn’t believe when I unpacked it that the build date was July2017😳
I wonder where it sat all this time.
Anyway I got it set up. Had to have a friend come over to get it on my stand, that is one heavy tv. For now I’m using the picture settings from AV FORUMS. I’m most impressed by the picture with HDR content. “Altered Carbon” on NETFLIX looks so much better than on my Vizio P-series. Amazing what the added brightness of this tv does for HDR. Cable content looks ok. Some channels look better than others. I played some 4K HDR disc on my OPPO203 and it looked fantastic as well.
I do see some blooming with certain content, and occasionally in the letter box bars,but I can deal with it, especially if I’m not looking so hard for it.
From the test I’ve run, it looks like I have a good panel went it comes to DSE, banding etc.
For the close out price I got this tv for, I’m very happy.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’ve always had all my displays professionally calibrated except for the Vizio. This is such a quality display that I’ll most likely have Chad B calibrate it after I get some hours on it. He did an awesome job on my Epson 5030B projector and my Panasonic plasma. My OCD makes me want to know my displays are looking as good as they can.
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My 55X930E was delivered today. Couldn’t believe when I unpacked it that the build date was July2017😳
I wonder where it sat all this time.
Anyway I got it set up. Had to have a friend come over to get it on my stand, that is one heavy tv. For now I’m using the picture settings from AV FORUMS. I’m most impressed by the picture with HDR content. “Altered Carbon” on NETFLIX looks so much better than on my Vizio P-series. Amazing what the added brightness of this tv does for HDR. Cable content looks ok. Some channels look better than others. I played some 4K HDR disc on my OPPO203 and it looked fantastic as well.
I do see some blooming with certain content, and occasionally in the letter box bars,but I can deal with it, especially if I’m not looking so hard for it.
From the test I’ve run, it looks like I have a good panel went it comes to DSE, banding etc.
For the close out price I got this tv for, I’m very happy.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I’ve always had all my displays professionally calibrated except for the Vizio. This is such a quality display that I’ll most likely have Chad B calibrate it after I get some hours on it. He did an awesome job on my Epson 5030B projector and my Panasonic plasma. My OCD makes me want to know my displays are looking as good as they can.
They were discontinued by April 2018 so most would have been built in 2017. It is a 2017 model so it wouldnt have continued production in 2018. Get some bias lighting to help with the blooming

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They were discontinued by April 2018 so most would have been built in 2017. It is a 2017 model so it wouldnt have continued production in 2018. Get some bias lighting to help with the blooming
Thanks fssfguy,
I understand it is a 2017 model,I was just surprised that a July 2017 build was still around. No big deal. I did the update and all is well.
As I said, I’m pretty happy with my new SONY!
I will check into bias lighting.
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I know you can watch those purchases in YouTube but they only do 1080p playback seriously dissatisfied, guess I’ll have to buy uhd disks now

I’m not sure why you are anti-HDR as that is one of the things that makes movies look better. That said I think there’s an issue with Dolby Vision HDR as it looks too dark, but Google Play doesn’t support Dolby Vision. HDR10 looks fine.

As for 1080p, with the upscaling on this TV, most of the time I’m hard pressed to tell the difference between 4k and 1080p video.
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I’m not sure why you are anti-HDR as that is one of the things that makes movies look better. That said I think there’s an issue with Dolby Vision HDR as it looks too dark, but Google Play doesn’t support Dolby Vision. HDR10 looks fine.

As for 1080p, with the upscaling on this TV, most of the time I’m hard pressed to tell the difference between 4k and 1080p video.
I couldn’t tell you. I just don’t like the look.. just my preference I guess. The thing about google movies in native app it’s weird. Kk like anything else on consoles or before Dolby vision it switches to hdr signal and will have those presets. No matter what I tried on that app (google) it switches to hdr10 but uses the non hdr settings. No matter what you do those are married unlike any other app or application. Hence me thinking it’s deff blanket fake hdr like the Dolby vision or hdr on consoles
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They were discontinued by April 2018 so most would have been built in 2017. It is a 2017 model so it wouldnt have continued production in 2018. Get some bias lighting to help with the blooming
Sony did continue production into 2018. I have an XBR65X930E that I purchased in April 2018, and it has a production date of March 2018.
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Sony did continue production into 2018. I have an XBR65X930E that I purchased in April 2018, and it has a production date of March 2018.
Well that’s good to know, however production didn’t suffer so I wouldn’t wore anoutvlunch date. More country the date
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They were discontinued by April 2018 so most would have been built in 2017. It is a 2017 model so it wouldnt have continued production in 2018. Get some bias lighting to help with the blooming
Not only did Sony continue production of the 930E from 2017, there are still 2016 Z9Ds that were made a couple months ago which two friends recently purchased.
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Well that’s good to know, however production didn’t suffer so I wouldn’t wore anoutvlunch date. More country the date
how do i find the build date on this tv?
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So can anyone get hdr to properly engage in the google play native app ?
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I finally have a question about my new X930E. I’m confused as to how the “AUTO PICTURE MODE” setting be adjusted. The settings from both RTINGS and AV FORUMS say to turn it off. Can someone tell me why you wouldn’t want to use AUTO or AUTO(24p sync)
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There is a label on the back of the tv that shows the date of mfg.
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I finally have a question about my new X930E. I’m confused as to how the “AUTO PICTURE MODE” setting be adjusted. The settings from both RTINGS and AV FORUMS say to turn it off. Can someone tell me why you wouldn’t want to use AUTO or AUTO(24p sync)

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Auto is supposed to detect the picture settings and adjust to the picture mode based on the content. For Auto it switches to the last chosen picture setting for most content for Auto (24) it switches to Cinema Home when it detects a 24 fps source which is usually movies.

I’ve found that for the most part the auto settings doesn’t actually detect content so it doesn’t do anything. The only exceptions I’ve had is with my PS4 where it switches to Game mode for games and to movie mode for movies. As such I keep Auto enabled for my PS4’s input, but turn it off for all other inputs.
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So can anyone get hdr to properly engage in the google play native app ?
I don't use it because they use VP9 and the image quality isn't as good from my testing when I use Vudu and particularly iTunes.

That said, I do have 4K movies cross entitled across all and none of them show up in HDR. Likely because they TV isn't doing VP9.2 which is what is needed for HDR YouTube and Google Play Movies.

*EDIT* Actually scratch that, just tried Bad Boys II and it is playing in HDR. Strange because the first movie wasn't and both of them are HDR on other services and obviously the discs I own.
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Sticker on the back where the serial and model number are located.
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I don't use it because they use VP9 and the image quality isn't as good from my testing when I use Vudu and particularly iTunes.

That said, I do have 4K movies cross entitled across all and none of them show up in HDR. Likely because they TV isn't doing VP9.2 which is what is needed for HDR YouTube and Google Play Movies.

*EDIT* Actually scratch that, just tried Bad Boys II and it is playing in HDR. Strange because the first movie wasn't and both of them are HDR on other services and obviously the discs I own.
What I ment by properly engaging hdr is that on any other app and or console apps. If you are say Netflix you have sdr settings and when it auto switches it will switch to hdr/dv settings. The tv allows two different sets of values for video app setting where the dynamic range and brightness can be different and switch accordingly. So if I set the hdr setting under video apps it’s set so brightness goes to max and dynamic contrast goes from low to high. But for what ever reason just in the google movie app It doesn’t do this ? in settings it says hdr but keeps the same values as sdr, it’s all jacked up.

Ppl that have Apple 4k tv are you able to turn off hdr and or Dolby vision ? If so I’ll pick one up.. I tried for months to get hdr settings that looked good but to me I think it’s washed out and to fill no matter what source I use. Also seems to polarize only on hdr or dv
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What I ment by properly engaging hdr is that on any other app and or console apps. If you are say Netflix you have sdr settings and when it auto switches it will switch to hdr/dv settings. The tv allows two different sets of values for video app setting where the dynamic range and brightness can be different and switch accordingly. So if I set the hdr setting under video apps it’s set so brightness goes to max and dynamic contrast goes from low to high. But for what ever reason just in the google movie app It doesn’t do this ? in settings it says hdr but keeps the same values as sdr, it’s all jacked up.



Ppl that have Apple 4k tv are you able to turn off hdr and or Dolby vision ? If so I’ll pick one up.. I tried for months to get hdr settings that looked good but to me I think it’s washed out and to fill no matter what source I use. Also seems to polarize only on hdr or dv


I’ve seen the broken HDR before where it says it’s on, but the brightness is wrong, but only when trying to play HDR on YouTube via the built-in Chromecast.

As for Apple TV 4K, yes you can set it to output only 4K SDR.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208074
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There is a label on the back of the tv that shows the date of mfg.
thanks. tv's installed in a built-in type area and a huge pain to get to the back. any chance there's a sticker on the box or a setting in the menus that'll show it?
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