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post #751 of 1546 Old 02-19-2018, 07:13 PM
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Fair enough. I not set to receive notifications of new posts to the forum, save for when someone quotes me. I did also notice an error in grammar and re-posted again. I'm trying to work on that. My brain travel faster than my fingers type sometimes... disclaimer was added in an earlier post that I tend edit a lot.
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I have the 65KS8000 and it has about 1/4 inch of blue bleeding in the top, not really noticeable but since I bought a square trade figured I'd call them and see what they could do. Long story short, its a hardware failure so they'll replace it (which I think just means send me a new one and Ill have to "dispose" of my current one somehow, but thats another story). So first they sent me a link to get some old junky LG 4K thats about $699 on LG's website. I replied and told them it was a joke and I wanted to stick with Samsung, since the one connect option is awesome for my setup. So they sent me a link to a brand new UN65MU800DFXZA (which is the 8000 but just Costco's part number), so this leads me to my question....

Is the 8000 a good TV? The reviews I've read arent close to the KS, and the KS seems to be a much better TV. Just curious peoples opinions compared to the 2. I threw out for them to get me an LG OLED, but Im pretty sure they'll shoot that idea down.
I used to own a KS8500 and also had that blue-bleed, but it was at the bottom. It really was distracting so I returned it and bought an OLED.

But to answer your question, the MU8000 is not a direct equivalent to the KS8000 because of the quantum dots and higher nit level for better HDR. The Q7 would be this years equivalent, but even that wasn't as good as the KS8000.

I'm not sure how SquareTrade works, but can they send you a refund check instead?

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I used to own a KS8500 and also had that blue-bleed, but it was at the bottom. It really was distracting so I returned it and bought an OLED.

But to answer your question, the MU8000 is not a direct equivalent to the KS8000 because of the quantum dots and higher nit level for better HDR. The Q7 would be this years equivalent, but even that wasn't as good as the KS8000.

I'm not sure how SquareTrade works, but can they send you a refund check instead?
I doubt they're going to make me give my old KS back to them when I get a new TV and the bleed isnt really that noticeable so Im not sure how much I want to go back and forth with them. It would be nice to get a full refund for the warranty (I paid roughly $1900) for it. Some reputable stores on ebay have the 65 LG OLED's for around the same price, it would be a no brainer if I got to keep the KS too. I threw out them getting me the LG OLED but they shot that down so I requested the Q7. From SquareTrade. If it becomes a hassle and I can keep my old TV I may just go with the MU8000... would be better to get the Q7 though.

What do I do with my old TV?
You do not have to send SquareTrade your old TV. Please follow the local laws and regulations regarding the recycling of electronics in your area.
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Best Buy has a recycling program in the US and Canada. I brought them my old ES8000 and there was no fee to accept it.
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I doubt they're going to make me give my old KS back to them when I get a new TV and the bleed isnt really that noticeable so Im not sure how much I want to go back and forth with them. It would be nice to get a full refund for the warranty (I paid roughly $1900) for it. Some reputable stores on ebay have the 65 LG OLED's for around the same price, it would be a no brainer if I got to keep the KS too. I threw out them getting me the LG OLED but they shot that down so I requested the Q7. From SquareTrade. If it becomes a hassle and I can keep my old TV I may just go with the MU8000... would be better to get the Q7 though.

What do I do with my old TV?
You do not have to send SquareTrade your old TV. Please follow the local laws and regulations regarding the recycling of electronics in your area.
Once you do get your replacement and get to keep the KS, I wonder what would happen if you take a microfiber cloth and massage the light bleed area with some moderate pressure. I've read on the forums before about owners rubbing the panel where they saw clouding and bleed and it helped get rid of it because the massaging helped realign the light plates or something.

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Hello all, I am new to this forum and just purchased a 65 MU8000 thru my company's EPP. I should be receiving the tv in a couple of days but have been wondering about wall mounting it. I have basically a question... I purchased a Sanus tilt mount and a power relocation kit. My question is, has anyone mounted the tv with the decorative back panels attached and are the cables visible? I have been wondering if a small hole can be drilled in the panel where the one connect and power cable are so they would go straight to the relocation kit on the wall? Not sure if I make sense lol
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I doubt they're going to make me give my old KS back to them when I get a new TV and the bleed isnt really that noticeable so Im not sure how much I want to go back and forth with them. It would be nice to get a full refund for the warranty (I paid roughly $1900) for it. Some reputable stores on ebay have the 65 LG OLED's for around the same price, it would be a no brainer if I got to keep the KS too. I threw out them getting me the LG OLED but they shot that down so I requested the Q7. From SquareTrade. If it becomes a hassle and I can keep my old TV I may just go with the MU8000... would be better to get the Q7 though.



What do I do with my old TV?

You do not have to send SquareTrade your old TV. Please follow the local laws and regulations regarding the recycling of electronics in your area.


I highly doubt they will let you keep the TV. I suspect they will arrange for pickup or something. Maybe the tech that comes out to confirm the defect takes it with him/her.


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I'm having a peculiar problem with my MU8000 by which it turns itself back on a few minutes after I've used my Fios remote to simultaneously turn off the STB, my Marantz AVR through which all sources run, and the TV, itself. I never had this problem before I upgraded my TV and AVR, but I suspect it has something to do with the HDMI-CEC settings in at least one of those components. By way of further background, after the TV turns itself back on, the screen saver or sleep mode of the FIOS service appears on screen asking me to either turn off the monitor or press "Menu" on the Fios remote to resume service. This is how the FIOS STB normally operates.

Any advice? Again, I suspect it's not a defect in the Samsung, rather something to do with HDMI-CEC, but I don't want to disable any other capabilities. Thanks!
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Hello all, I am new to this forum and just purchased a 65 MU8000 thru my company's EPP. I should be receiving the tv in a couple of days but have been wondering about wall mounting it. I have basically a question... I purchased a Sanus tilt mount and a power relocation kit. My question is, has anyone mounted the tv with the decorative back panels attached and are the cables visible? I have been wondering if a small hole can be drilled in the panel where the one connect and power cable are so they would go straight to the relocation kit on the wall? Not sure if I make sense lol
My 49-inch is wall mounted without the larger decorative panel attached. Back panel attached or not, there is a recessed cable-channel that leads to the bottom middle of the unit; so when I look at my TV from the side, I cannot see any cables. But it sounds like you won't be routing it that way, all your cables will be directly behind the TV, right?

2 questions:

1. Where are you putting the one-connect box?
2. Where behind the TV is the power relocation kit going to be? Directly behind where the power and one-connect attach to the TV or lower?

Depending where your power relocation kit is (if it's lower than where the power and one-connect attach on the TV), then I guess you could route the cables through the recessed channel to where you drill the hole in the decorative panel to where the power relocation is.

But that doesn't address where the one-connect box is going to be.

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My 49-inch is wall mounted without the larger decorative panel attached. Back panel attached or not, there is a recessed cable-channel that leads to the bottom middle of the unit; so when I look at my TV from the side, I cannot see any cables. But it sounds like you won't be routing it that way, all your cables will be directly behind the TV, right?

2 questions:

1. Where are you putting the one-connect box?
2. Where behind the TV is the power relocation kit going to be? Directly behind where the power and one-connect attach to the TV or lower?

Depending where your power relocation kit is (if it's lower than where the power and one-connect attach on the TV), then I guess you could route the cables through the recessed channel to where you drill the hole in the decorative panel to where the power relocation is.

But that doesn't address where the one-connect box is going to be.
I have my 75" tv wall mounted and I have a tv stand under it to put my center channel and my cable box, one connect box, Xbox one, ps3 etc

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I have my 75" tv wall mounted and I have a tv stand under it to put my center channel and my cable box, one connect box, Xbox one, ps3 etc

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Oh that's right, the cables would be routed through the kit behind the wall right? I've never used a relocation kit but that makes sense to me. Nice looking set-up you got there!

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I have my 75" tv wall mounted and I have a tv stand under it to put my center channel and my cable box, one connect box, Xbox one, ps3 etc

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Hey, how far do you sit from your 75-incher?

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Oh that's right, the cables would be routed through the kit behind the wall right? I've never used a relocation kit but that makes sense to me. Nice looking set-up you got there!
Thanks.

My center channel hides the one connect cable and the one connect box is stashed in the cabinet. I purposely wall mounted the tv to the hight of the top of the center channel so the tv isnt obstructed and you can't see the cables of the one connect box and the ethernet cable

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Hey, how far do you sit from your 75-incher?
I have an L shaped couch and the main seat (that i sit in) is 11ft 8inches away from back cushion (ear position) to the tv

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I highly doubt they will let you keep the TV. I suspect they will arrange for pickup or something. Maybe the tech that comes out to confirm the defect takes it with him/her.


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We'll see... after talking to them yesterday I asked what I would do with the old TV and they said because of the size, they dont require them to be returned and that it would be my responsibility to dispose of it.
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Interesting

I used Rtings full settings as a reference but my picture looks great minus me setting the backlight anywhere between 15-20. I have the sharpness on 10 and set the Contrast Enhancer to High

Maybe my 75 inch panel matches the panel that rtings used for their testing pretty well

Planet Earth on Netflix looks amazing
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I will say this...I know rtings LOVES the KS series from last year. And even though this doesn't have quantum dots, this is still and excellent TV. The local dimming isn't great but all around, I don't feel like I am missing much compared to my KS.


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Interesting

I used Rtings full settings as a reference but my picture looks great minus me setting the backlight anywhere between 15-20. I have the sharpness on 10 and set the Contrast Enhancer to High

Maybe my 75 inch panel matches the panel that rtings used for their testing pretty well

Planet Earth on Netflix looks amazing
Do you feel you lose black detail with the contrast enhancer set to high? I used to have it on low, and while I liked how the images popped, the blacks became too black for me.

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Hello all, I am new to this forum and just purchased a 65 MU8000 thru my company's EPP. I should be receiving the tv in a couple of days but have been wondering about wall mounting it. I have basically a question... I purchased a Sanus tilt mount and a power relocation kit. My question is, has anyone mounted the tv with the decorative back panels attached and are the cables visible? I have been wondering if a small hole can be drilled in the panel where the one connect and power cable are so they would go straight to the relocation kit on the wall? Not sure if I make sense lol
My 49-inch is wall mounted without the larger decorative panel attached. Back panel attached or not, there is a recessed cable-channel that leads to the bottom middle of the unit; so when I look at my TV from the side, I cannot see any cables. But it sounds like you won't be routing it that way, all your cables will be directly behind the TV, right?

2 questions:

1. Where are you putting the one-connect box?
2. Where behind the TV is the power relocation kit going to be? Directly behind where the power and one-connect attach to the TV or lower?

Depending where your power relocation kit is (if it's lower than where the power and one-connect attach on the TV), then I guess you could route the cables through the recessed channel to where you drill the hole in the decorative panel to where the power relocation is.

But that doesn't address where the one-connect box is going to be.

Hi again, thanks for your reply. I am thinking putting the relocation kit straight in the center of the wall mount, that's why I was thinking about drilling the panel so not that much cabling will show from the sides. The one connect will be hidden inside a tv console/credenza. I saw videos about the channel you mention but that will mean putting the power relocation kit lower. I think I will wait for the tv and see what I will do.
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Do you feel you lose black detail with the contrast enhancer set to high? I used to have it on low, and while I liked how the images popped, the blacks became too black for me.
I prefer contrast enhancer on low with local dimming set to standard using Movie Mode for Netflix 4K / HDR. I noticed loss of detail in blacks when contrast is set to high. Someone said earlier, it's all in the eyes of the beholder though.

Edit: Just had another look on a workshop scene from Stranger Things and turning contrast enhancer off showed more detail in shadows. Thanks!
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I prefer contrast enhancer on low with local dimming set to standard using Movie Mode for Netflix 4K / HDR. I noticed loss of detail in blacks when contrast is set to high. Someone said earlier, it's all in the eyes of the beholder though.



Edit: Just had another look on a workshop scene from Stranger Things and turning contrast enhancer off showed more detail in shadows. Thanks!


Do you use contrast enhancer on low and local dimming on standard, when watching FHD 1080p or HD 720p stuff?
Thanks for the links before, was great help for me!
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I haven't had a close look at HD content yet on that set. I use the MU8 in my bedroom primarily for streaming Netflix in 4K and HDR.

I think other settings come into play as well but for me the following is what I think looks best overall, and I'll give you examples:

Netflix - Stranger Things 'HDR' - Season 1/Episode 1 - (workshop scene) @ 8:12: Contrast Enhancer OFF / Local Dimming 'standard'. Look under the desk on the left corner and you will see crossbar shadows with more detail this way. Local dimming 'high' gives the overall image more punch but I think the wood desk and wall is more natural on 'standard'. Its a trade off and personal preference.

Netflix - Moving Art '4K' - Iceland - 19:25 to 19:30 area: Contrast Enhancer OFF / Local Dimming 'standard'. Again, contrast set to off brings detail to the shadows of the rock that is otherwise lost. Also (To me) local dimming in standard gives the water a more natural look, but again it's personal preference and doesn't affect the shadows.

You're welcome for the links before. I want to fully understand refresh rates and chroma subsampling when I can dedicate some time.

Edit: BTW those settings are with Movie Mode, Warm 2, in a dark room.
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Just picked up the 65MU8000 and I'm loving it! I have it connected to my denon receiver, and I have no issues with PS4, HTPC, etc. Unfortunately, when I use the TV Apps like Netflix, Plex...the sound is coming from the TV and not the receiver. Sounds like I missed something during setup?
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Just picked up the 65MU8000 and I'm loving it! I have it connected to my denon receiver, and I have no issues with PS4, HTPC, etc. Unfortunately, when I use the TV Apps like Netflix, Plex...the sound is coming from the TV and not the receiver. Sounds like I missed something during setup?
Use an optical cable from the one connect box and hook it up to your reciever. Go into the tv sound options and select optical cable. In the Denon change the tv input to optical and you should get sound.

If by chance you want to mess with ARC (which can be very finicky and not generally recommend) connect the current HDMI cable to HDMI 4 on the one connect box and on the Denon change the tv input to HDMI

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Just picked up the 65MU8000 and I'm loving it! I have it connected to my denon receiver, and I have no issues with PS4, HTPC, etc. Unfortunately, when I use the TV Apps like Netflix, Plex...the sound is coming from the TV and not the receiver. Sounds like I missed something during setup?
In your receiver, you need to go into setup, Video>HDMI setup, turn on HDMI control and TV Audio switching.
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So I'm looking for display for new home. I'm looking in the 75" range, in this price range and was thinking of going with LG since it has Dolby Vision and appeared to get good reviews, until I read on AVS of folks not being happy with it's performance in dark room situations.

Now I'm looking at this Samsung and it also gets get reviews and people seem to be happy with it on this thread.

So I guess what I'm asking is how important is Dolby Vision? Are there models out there that perform just as well but just don't want to pay for the Dolby stamp of approval?
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So I'm looking for display for new home. I'm looking in the 75" range, in this price range and was thinking of going with LG since it has Dolby Vision and appeared to get good reviews, until I read on AVS of folks not being happy with it's performance in dark room situations.



Now I'm looking at this Samsung and it also gets get reviews and people seem to be happy with it on this thread.



So I guess what I'm asking is how important is Dolby Vision? Are there models out there that perform just as well but just don't want to pay for the Dolby stamp of approval?


Dolby vision as well as Samsung’s HDR10+ are still in its infancy. It will still be another few yrs for the dust to settle and to see if there is any true benefits to DV or HDR10+. I’ve seen DV and honestly it doesn’t blow me away. I can’t tell the difference between HDR and DV myself. Others have seen and said the opposite.


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And don’t get HDR and HDR10+ confused. HDR is the standard and Samsung is developing HDR10+ to compete against DV.


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Good evening. I am new to 4k HDR TV shopping and my budget is pretty firm at $1,200.00. I was recently at a BB and have narrowed down my 3 choices. I need help deciding between the Sony x900e, Samsung QN55Q6FAMFXZA, and the MU8000. Really I believe I am ultimately deciding between the two Samsung. I will be buying a PS4 Pro to use with the tv.
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