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Where the heck is DLNA or media server on the thing? Android is a little fun to get used to. Can you also play Playstation games on this like the 850B?
Its under the standard apps list and called "Video". You can select DLNA servers from there. I've found however that the performance and compatibility of MKV and M2TS container playback isn't great. I've not tried Kodi yet.
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So I have the 49 inch version and am using the stand. It's pretty wobbly. Press the top with a finger and it wobbles back and forth a few times. Normal?

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It's normal but i noticed the TV sat to low for me. My center speaker was blocking the remote sensor. I bought this stand and it's pretty solid, plus it swivels. Here's the link in case anyone has the same issues i had.
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It's normal but i noticed the TV sat to low for me. My center speaker was blocking the remote sensor. I bought this stand and it's pretty solid, plus it swivels. Here's the link in case anyone has the same issues i had.
https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Sta...n+swivel+stand
I am glad to hear that stand is good. I have been thinking about grabbing one for my X900E as well.

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What about the 65" class?
As noted: 900E, 930E, and OLED in 65" class .
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900E, 940E, Z9D, a very expensive OLED are 75-77" class
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I came close to ordering the 900E but after seeing the X9E side by side in a Sony Centre there was a very obvious improvement in Detail. So ordered the X9E arriving Friday.
What's the X9E?
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yes I would recommend upgrading to the Xe93 if future proofing is a concern because the XE93 will support Dolby Vision after a software update later this year according to Sony.

Also the HDR is even better and the SDR upscaling is incredible.
I saw the XE90 and XE93 in a UK Sony Centre side by side and the extra detail on the XE93 was very obvious - even with my bad eye sight.
What about if it's mostly in a light controlled room that's blacked out at night? In other words how do you weigh the better upscaling and DV upgrade against the lack of FALD and lesser black levels. I'm not sure I'd want to add bias lighting in a dark room to help with the contrast so would the X900E be the better choice in my case? I really like the X1 Extreme processor though. Thanks for the video comparison. Looks great.

EDIT: Sorry, just saw I linked the wrong poster on this one. I'm multitasking in a bad way today, lol . @lysoleverywhere

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I just have a 4TB USB HDD plugged into my 900E and watch MKVs that way.
yeah, I use a 32gig jump drive in my 850B, oh well, we can't have everything, LOL

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Its under the standard apps list and called "Video". You can select DLNA servers from there. I've found however that the performance and compatibility of MKV and M2TS container playback isn't great. I've not tried Kodi yet.
Kodi has played everything I've thrown at it. It's a bit of a pain figure out how to customize but the fact that you can stream video from various sources and play most file types is a big plus.
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Kodi has played everything I've thrown at it. It's a bit of a pain figure out how to customize but the fact that you can stream video from various sources and play most file types is a big plus.
In home plex server has been money for me, for yers
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Does the KODI on Sony play M2TS (bluray) files? I rip all my blurays in lossless format and not sure if KODI on Sony has the muscle to handle it...
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What movie is this?

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BFG on Netflix. I didn't like the picture quality of the movie (source), wasn't the best. The TV did good still tho, I think, esp. with the dark scenes.

Also it seems like the TV has gotten "better looking" since the last few days of ownership. Perhaps it is breaking in? I heard somewhere there's a 200+ hour burn in recommended for this set. Anyone noticing similar behavior?
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Can someone test the 49" if it has the same zones as the 55"?

From what I have seen the 55" has 7 x 5 zones which is 35.

Is the 49" the same or does it have less zones?

If someone could do one of those videos showing the zones that would be very useful!

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Can someone test the 49" if it has the same zones as the 55"?

From what I have seen the 55" has 7 x 5 zones which is 35.

Is the 49" the same or does it have less zones?

If someone could do one of those videos showing the zones that would be very useful!
I have a 65" and can volunteer to do such a test. How do I do the test?

(KODI has a video pattern test that has a moving white box on black background, but the white box seems a bit too big)
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I have a 65" and can volunteer to do such a test. How do I do the test?

(KODI has a video pattern test that has a moving white box on black background, but the white box seems a bit too big)
The 55" and 65" people have uploaded videos, I would like to know if the 49" has the same zones as the 55". The 65" has slightly more zones than the 55" IIRC. The videos are on youtube I think, search for something like "local dimming test".

I am interested in the 49", but if it has less zones than the 55", it would probably be better to get the 55".
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Does the KODI on Sony play M2TS (bluray) files? I rip all my blurays in lossless format and not sure if KODI on Sony has the muscle to handle it...
Yes, it should. I haven't tried it but the tv documentation says that it supports it.
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It's normal but i noticed the TV sat to low for me. My center speaker was blocking the remote sensor. I bought this stand and it's pretty solid, plus it swivels. Here's the link in case anyone has the same issues i had.
https://www.amazon.com/Universal-Sta...n+swivel+stand
The sound on this TV is ... average. My 10yr old XBR4 puts this guy to shame. The surround processing seems better but sound is extremely flat and tinny.

Ended up ordering a Sonos PlayBase after reading the reviews. It should fit within the Sonos ecosystem already at my home.
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Kodi has played everything I've thrown at it. It's a bit of a pain figure out how to customize but the fact that you can stream video from various sources and play most file types is a big plus.
Installed Kodi however ive being unable to get bitstream audio from the TV using ARC, even though ive selected passthrough in Kodi's sound settings. With the audio settings on the tv, i have also set digital output to auto 1. Amazon, ultra, vudu apps can all output bistream audio via the hdmi ARC.

Any ideas?
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BFG on Netflix. I didn't like the picture quality of the movie (source), wasn't the best. The TV did good still tho, I think, esp. with the dark scenes.

Also it seems like the TV has gotten "better looking" since the last few days of ownership. Perhaps it is breaking in? I heard somewhere there's a 200+ hour burn in recommended for this set. Anyone noticing similar behavior?
These things are somewhat subjective but i do feel like i've noticed that... and I'm just passed 300 hours
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Does the KODI on Sony play M2TS (bluray) files? I rip all my blurays in lossless format and not sure if KODI on Sony has the muscle to handle it...
Ive found m2ts containers playback with Kodi (and the tv's built in video player) not great. It often stutters. MKV containers on the other hand playback perfectly.
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The sound on this TV is ... average. My 10yr old XBR4 puts this guy to shame. The surround processing seems better but sound is extremely flat and tinny.

Ended up ordering a Sonos PlayBase after reading the reviews. It should fit within the Sonos ecosystem already at my home.
Funny how this review says the final hesitation is the PlayBase doesn't have a microphone (for Alexa like integration), but THATS EXACTLY the reason why I want it - no microphone to listen to me .
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Any info on the 49" dimming zones then?
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Hi all. Like some have posted on here, I'm also curious what you guys are running for calibrations/picture modes. I tried the rtings settings and although it looks more natural, I feel the whites are dulled out and kind of "yellow".
Same for the settings posted from the owner that had the pro calibration.
I know each set is different and all that but still enjoy tinkering with the settings to get them where I like them.
Hoping that with some more experimenting I can get close to the ideal picture.
Here is my custom settings that look pretty good on all content.
Feel free to post your settings and thoughts

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Leave it "yellow" for a few weeks, you will get used to it and then you will find the other settings look "blue". 6500k does look a bit "yellow", but you will probably prefer it when you get used to it. Most TV presets (everything except "warm 2 / expert") are more like 7000-9000k which is "blue". Also it is worth using the "clearness" BFI setting.

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Pleeeassseee someone test the 49" dimming zones!! Need to know ASAP!

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Pleeeassseee someone test the 49" dimming zones!! Need to know ASAP!
I posted earlier in this thread that it appeared to be 24 (6 across and 4 down) I bought black out blinds, but haven't had the opportunity to test again since.
The transition between zones using the avs YouTube video for was slow enough that the delay between vertical zones was slow to change.
I felt it could have been 30 zones @ 6x5.

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I posted earlier in this thread that it appeared to be 24 (6 across and 4 down) I bought black out blinds, but haven't had the opportunity to test again since.
The transition between zones using the avs YouTube video for was slow enough that the delay between vertical zones was slow to change.
I felt it could have been 30 zones @ 6x5.

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Thanks for reply, so the 49" has less zones than the 55"? I think the 55" has 7x5 zones? Do you notice the 21:9 letterbox light up when watching films? Also do you have a colorimeter to take any measurements of the 49", like contrast ratio etc? Just trying to find out if the 49" is better or worse than the 55".
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Thanks for reply, so the 49" has less zones than the 55"? I think the 55" has 7x5 zones? Do you notice the 21:9 letterbox light up when watching films? Also do you have a colorimeter to take any measurements of the 49", like contrast ratio etc? Just trying to find out if the 49" is better or worse than the 55".
It is very faint when it does illuminate the wide-screen bars. I put a bias light on my display and it makes it unnoticeable when it does happen.

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Thanks for reply, so the 49" has less zones than the 55"?
That is the way it should be Bigger the TV the more zones it should have.
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Thanks for reply, so the 49" has less zones than the 55"?
That is the way it should be Bigger the TV the more zones it should have.
That doesn't make sense to me. A bigger tv doesn't need more zones, it just needs more LEDs per zone (it has to light a larger surface area).
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That is the way it should be Bigger the TV the more zones it should have.
Hm for example 55" and 49" with the same zones, the performance would be the same... just the 49" is smaller... if the 49" has less zones then the zones would be relatively bigger compared to the TV. I was hoping the 49" would have he same zones as the 55". Not sure if the lower zones makes the 49" much different fdimming compared to the 55".

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