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I just purchased the Sony 65" XBR 900E. I've seen threads about antennas as my setup is "similar". I have direct cable from cable provider with no set top box. Scanning channels does not pick up any digital channels of which I should receive about 100. I've moved a different brand of TV to the same cable and it works fine. Before I return it and purchase a different brand, am I missing a setting?
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CNET says the tlc series is all around better than the Sony x900e

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I had one and returned it. What's better about the TLC P is the price, DV, and the OS. This tv competes well with my ST60 plasmas.
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Yes, it's a Sony soundbar (CT350) from 2010. I had no issues with it when it was connected to my previous Sony TV, which was also a Bravia from around the same time.

I have not called Sony. I do intend to look further in the soundbar/receiver forums (I started on that path last night) and post a question or two.
Just to be sure... did you try the Bravia Sync settings in the tv?

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I gave up on the ARC thing. Too many issues. Optical works fine for some apps but I can't get 5.1 from Google play. Netflix works well, as does the Sony video player. Haven't tried Amazon. Really not happy about Google play as I was going to rent movies in 4k from them. I tied my PS3 yesterday and got no sound at all, so have to run another optical cable direct to receiver. Sony did a really poor job with audio on this thing. I contacted
support about the 5.1 issue and was told "those apps probably don't support 5.1". Really? They do on every other device I own.
Thank you. I was driving myself nuts last night trying to get 5.1 with Google play. I finally gave up. Lol

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I just purchased the Sony 65" XBR 900E. I've seen threads about antennas as my setup is "similar". I have direct cable from cable provider with no set top box. Scanning channels does not pick up any digital channels of which I should receive about 100. I've moved a different brand of TV to the same cable and it works fine. Before I return it and purchase a different brand, am I missing a setting?
You need to go into the settings and change the Cable/Antenna settings from antenna to cable, then you can rescan.

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Thank you. I was driving myself nuts last night trying to get 5.1 with Google play. I finally gave up. Lol

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So I had the optical running from the TV to receiver. I fired up the PS4 and had 5.1 right before the game started. Then while playing I noticed it was gone. Pulled the optical from the TV and plugged into the PS4 and everything is fine. Guess I'll just leave it there.


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Not surprising since CNET factors in pricing as a large factor.
BTW, friends don't let friends use Vivid...lol
BTW - friends don't let friends buy a TCL.

For 4K & HDR material (including Dolby Vision), I'm sure it looks great. For any upscaling of inferior sources including cable & satellite - - not so much so. Reliability? Not sure. Customer Support? Not sure. For all the faults of Sony, I can get someone one the line ASAP when I need to.
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Input keeps popping up scrolling w/ harmony remote w/ shield tv on X900E. but it also causes the input information spam on other inputs aswell while using the harmony remote so its not an hdmi handshake issue. It only occurs when holding directional keys on harmony remote.
Had the some problem

This is due to the harmony remote setup. When adding the sony 900e as a new device, the harmony asked if you wanted to control the TV as IR or IP. It may have also automatically defaulted to the IP control, which is the problem. The Sony doesn't seem to play well with IP / WIFI control.

You will need to go back, remove the tv as a device, then re add it. Watch carefully when it asks how you want to send commands to the TV and make sure not to select IP control.

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Bought an x900e 2 weeks ago and past week it really started bothering my eyes which is bizarre. I use it as computer monitor and pretty much anything high convergence I can see an afterimage of if I stare at it for a few seconds. Tryed adjusting backlight/contrast/ etc. Its like the "whites" are too blazing. I went from a 50% coverage bias light to 100% and still nothing.

I've been using HDTV's for monitor all my life and this is first time this happened to me. Had a ks8000 till it developed a spot and had 0 problems like this.
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BTW - friends don't let friends buy a TCL.

For 4K & HDR material (including Dolby Vision), I'm sure it looks great. For any upscaling of inferior sources including cable & satellite - - not so much so. Reliability? Not sure. Customer Support? Not sure. For all the faults of Sony, I can get someone one the line ASAP when I need to.
LOL
I don't think Vivid equates to HDR at least coming from a Panny Plasma but I'm still tweaking to eeek out every ounce of PQ.
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I don't think Vivid equates to HDR at least coming from a Panny Plasma but I'm still tweaking to eeek out every ounce of PQ.
Vivid is the new hdr+

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Remote dead?

I haven't had the best luck with this tv. I've had a hard time getting the PQ settings to where I like them. I've had some issues with it not staying connected to the internet even though it's hard wired. But I've been putting off messing with PQ because I was unhappy with the results. So tonight I try and mess with them and the remote simply doesn't work. Not a single function on it works. I tried pulling the batteries out and resetting the TV.

Any other suggestions I should try?

Thanks for your help.

PS, TV is "fine" as my Tivo can power the tv off and on. I followed the instructions on this and do not see the remote light up. https://us.en.kb.sony.com/app/answer...3,96663,96664/
I woke up this morning and tried the remote. It worked for about 10 seconds but now it will only accept a command every 5-10 seconds or so. I'm checking using my camera to determine if the remote is actually sending a RF signal and it's not, only every 5-10 seconds mentioned. Think I'll call Sony.

Anyone have this problem before?

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Bought an x900e 2 weeks ago and past week it really started bothering my eyes which is bizarre. I use it as computer monitor and pretty much anything high convergence I can see an afterimage of if I stare at it for a few seconds. Tryed adjusting backlight/contrast/ etc. Its like the "whites" are too blazing. I went from a 50% coverage bias light to 100% and still nothing.

I've been using HDTV's for monitor all my life and this is first time this happened to me. Had a ks8000 till it developed a spot and had 0 problems like this.
That is weird, I would say start adjusting your settings. Brightness and contrast would be where I started.
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Many AVRs have audio delay settings that are worth a try for people with sync issues. In many cases this is the best fix.

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See I have this argument for the longest time when 75x850e is $1000 less than 75x900e .. Yes I realised the edge lit vs full panel but still I couldn't tell different in the store when they playing those HD clips. At the end I still bought 75x900e for ease of mind .... but the $1000 extra is well spent or not is another story

Anyone here mount their 75x900e?
Were they set-up close to each other in the store? The difference was pretty noticeable at my Best Buy. The 850 picture was much dimmer and the colors were not as good either.
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I woke up this morning and tried the remote. It worked for about 10 seconds but now it will only accept a command every 5-10 seconds or so. I'm checking using my camera to determine if the remote is actually sending a RF signal and it's not, only every 5-10 seconds mentioned. Think I'll call Sony.

Anyone have this problem before?
Yes. Not to sound flippant, but I replaced the batteries. It seems simple, but when it first happened to me, I assumed the worst. This remote sucks down batteries quickly. Took me by surprise, when it just stopped working, and worked intermittently.
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Yes. I replaced the batteries.
Even though the unit is 2 weeks old, I tried that and still the same issue. Very strange.

Scratch that! I tried 3rd set of batteries and that did the trick. Awesome!

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Just to be sure... did you try the Bravia Sync settings in the tv?
Actually, after even more testing and hair pulling I've decided that this has nothing to do with my soundbar. The soundbar itself adds a minuscule amount of audio delay, as tested by turning off HDMI control and hearing audio from both the internal speakers and the soundbar at the same time. I've tried this with my PS4 Pro, the native apps, and my cable STB. In all cases, the soundbar is not to blame, but since it adds a tiny bit of latency it does in some cases make the problem more noticeable (perhaps elevating the latency just past some minimum detectable threshold for us humans).

Instead, it really does seem to be an issue with how long it takes the TV to process/pass through incoming audio signals. For now I have connected my PS4 Pro directly to the soundbar via optical, but this is a little annoying since I need to manually change the input source on the soundbar whenever I switch to the PS4 because if I don't, the TV's optical or ARC connected to the soundbar takes over (can I short circuit that path somehow?). In any event, zero audio latency with this approach.

Interestingly, though, with my old setup (PS4 -> HDMI -> TV), the delay (which, recall, was actually present even when using the TV's built-in speakers) was pretty much unnoticeable when I forced my PS4 to output 2-channel PCM. But when outputting 5.1 DTS or Dolby (bitstream) to the TV from the PS4, the latency was about 100-150ms. What gives? Is this TV slow decoding certain audio formats? Note that I do see lip sync issues via my set top box (STB -> HDMI -> TV) regardless of whether I ask U-verse to output in stereo or surround, so I don't think the issue is quite as simple as 2.0 good, 5.1 bad.

Summary: Turns out PS4 -> HDMI -> TV suffers from delayed audio regardless of the use of the soundbar. It also turns out that this delay is mitigated when the PS4 is forced to output 2.0 audio. However, 5.1 audio to the soundbar is not delayed when the PS4 is connected to it directly. This is therefore the TV's fault, not the PS4's or the soundbar's. Similar issues occur with my STB.
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Summary: Turns out PS4 -> HDMI -> TV suffers from delayed audio regardless of the use of the soundbar. It also turns out that this delay is mitigated when the PS4 is forced to output 2.0 audio. However, 5.1 audio to the soundbar is not delayed when the PS4 is connected to it directly. This is therefore the TV's fault, not the PS4's or the soundbar's. Similar issues occur with my STB.
Interesting..I have only noticed audio lag from 5.1 TV Tuner feeds but not streaming apps.
Something to double-check anyway.
It does seem to be pointing to the TV though.
This would eliminate my Sony wireless surround speakers as the culprit too.
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Went back into PC Richards today since they have the 3 Main TVs I’m debating between, Sony A1e, X930E, and x900e.

Does the x900e 75” version use a different panel? The 75” screen (i know it’s store lighting) but looks more rich and deep than the 65” x900e. Does the 75” use a glass over the screen and the 65” doesn’t? Figured they would both be the same...

The A1e is a fine display. The X930E is overpriced but seems to be the best of the bunch for performance. The 55” x900e was next to the 55” X930E both playing my Terrible NYG game today, and the X930E, though both in torch mode settings, looked deeper and the PQ appeared sharper and more refined.

What a freaking hard time to buy a TV. If you don’t pull trigger now, I’ll have to wait until this time next year. Though I’m dying to see what CES 2018 is gonna bring as far as new OLED panels from Sony. I can’t stomach LG, terrible track record, and even though the panel is LGD, trust Sony way more than LG. LG is a consumer brand, cut corners to help bring pricing down for mass sales. Quality is not there.

So besides high prices until they drop for BFD 2018, I’m impatiently waiting
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hey all
got my new 900e yesterday, didnt set it up because i had to make a temporary stand which i made today.
i did tunr it on for a second yesterday when the delivered it to check if it worked (just splash screen, no cable or anything). it was snowing yesterday, so it was cold. should i not have tried to start it until it got to room temperature? water under the bridge now, but just so i know for next time.

so, connected it to cable today, happened to be a football game on. when they were zoomed out to show like most of the players, i noticed pixelation around some of the players that were moving. very minor, but noticeable, and not just because im ocd anal, regualr person would see it. it went away and came back. i havent adjusted any settings yet. is this a contrast thing perhaps?
will investigate more tonight and tomorrow.
thanks for any input on this
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Input keeps popping up scrolling w/ harmony remote w/ shield tv on X900E. but it also causes the input information spam on other inputs aswell while using the harmony remote so its not an hdmi handshake issue. It only occurs when holding directional keys on harmony remote.
someone posted the fix for this a few weeks ago. i had same problem. here's the issue. when you set up your harmony remote, it likely scanned WiFi and found the TV. once you set it up using WiFi w/ the harmony, you will run into this issue repeatedly. rerun set up for the TV on the remote, but DO NOT allow it to scan for the device on WiFi. just enter the model number and let it pull those from the database. that'll fix the issue.
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hey all
got my new 900e yesterday, didnt set it up because i had to make a temporary stand which i made today.
i did tunr it on for a second yesterday when the delivered it to check if it worked (just splash screen, no cable or anything). it was snowing yesterday, so it was cold. should i not have tried to start it until it got to room temperature? water under the bridge now, but just so i know for next time.

so, connected it to cable today, happened to be a football game on. when they were zoomed out to show like most of the players, i noticed pixelation around some of the players that were moving. very minor, but noticeable, and not just because im ocd anal, regualr person would see it. it went away and came back. i havent adjusted any settings yet. is this a contrast thing perhaps?
will investigate more tonight and tomorrow.
thanks for any input on this
im definitely noticing audio syncing issues at least on some channels.

picture looks good from about 5 feet away or more. closer than that it looks pretty blotchy.
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BTW - friends don't let friends buy a TCL.

For 4K & HDR material (including Dolby Vision), I'm sure it looks great. For any upscaling of inferior sources including cable & satellite - - not so much so. Reliability? Not sure. Customer Support? Not sure. For all the faults of Sony, I can get someone one the line ASAP when I need to.
My first choice was the TCL P series(mainly cost) but I couldn't get one here on Kaua'i but I have been very satisfied with my 900(and 400$ more) and I suspect there are a few more bells and whistles to ring I haven't discovered yet. I was just so thankful it worked right out of the box and plugged in the way my old tv was. One of the reasons I bought was the upscaling touted here and there. I keep playing with my settings as I come across new settings people recommend so it just keeps getting better.
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I’m basically at the point where I’m gonna give up on TVs. This is getting annoying.
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im definitely noticing audio syncing issues at least on some channels.

picture looks good from about 5 feet away or more. closer than that it looks pretty blotchy.
Are you using a Sony soundbar or avr?


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Interesting..I have only noticed audio lag from 5.1 TV Tuner feeds but not streaming apps.
Something to double-check anyway.
It does seem to be pointing to the TV though.
This would eliminate my Sony wireless surround speakers as the culprit too.


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Actually, after even more testing and hair pulling I've decided that this has nothing to do with my soundbar. The soundbar itself adds a minuscule amount of audio delay, as tested by turning off HDMI control and hearing audio from both the internal speakers and the soundbar at the same time. I've tried this with my PS4 Pro, the native apps, and my cable STB. In all cases, the soundbar is not to blame, but since it adds a tiny bit of latency it does in some cases make the problem more noticeable (perhaps elevating the latency just past some minimum detectable threshold for us humans).

Instead, it really does seem to be an issue with how long it takes the TV to process/pass through incoming audio signals. For now I have connected my PS4 Pro directly to the soundbar via optical, but this is a little annoying since I need to manually change the input source on the soundbar whenever I switch to the PS4 because if I don't, the TV's optical or ARC connected to the soundbar takes over (can I short circuit that path somehow?). In any event, zero audio latency with this approach.

Interestingly, though, with my old setup (PS4 -> HDMI -> TV), the delay (which, recall, was actually present even when using the TV's built-in speakers) was pretty much unnoticeable when I forced my PS4 to output 2-channel PCM. But when outputting 5.1 DTS or Dolby (bitstream) to the TV from the PS4, the latency was about 100-150ms. What gives? Is this TV slow decoding certain audio formats? Note that I do see lip sync issues via my set top box (STB -> HDMI -> TV) regardless of whether I ask U-verse to output in stereo or surround, so I don't think the issue is quite as simple as 2.0 good, 5.1 bad.

Summary: Turns out PS4 -> HDMI -> TV suffers from delayed audio regardless of the use of the soundbar. It also turns out that this delay is mitigated when the PS4 is forced to output 2.0 audio. However, 5.1 audio to the soundbar is not delayed when the PS4 is connected to it directly. This is therefore the TV's fault, not the PS4's or the soundbar's. Similar issues occur with my STB.
You didn't say whether you've tried the tv's Bravia Sync or not.

So far, the one constant is a Sony Tv coupled with Sony sound systems. I've not seen any other reports from others using soundbars, receivers, wifi speakers... by other manufacturers.

No firmware fix will happen if people aren't reporting the issue.

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Went back into PC Richards today since they have the 3 Main TVs I’m debating between, Sony A1e, X930E, and x900e.

Does the x900e 75” version use a different panel? The 75” screen (i know it’s store lighting) but looks more rich and deep than the 65” x900e. Does the 75” use a glass over the screen and the 65” doesn’t? Figured they would both be the same...

The A1e is a fine display. The X930E is overpriced but seems to be the best of the bunch for performance. The 55” x900e was next to the 55” X930E both playing my Terrible NYG game today, and the X930E, though both in torch mode settings, looked deeper and the PQ appeared sharper and more refined.

What a freaking hard time to buy a TV. If you don’t pull trigger now, I’ll have to wait until this time next year. Though I’m dying to see what CES 2018 is gonna bring as far as new OLED panels from Sony. I can’t stomach LG, terrible track record, and even though the panel is LGD, trust Sony way more than LG. LG is a consumer brand, cut corners to help bring pricing down for mass sales. Quality is not there.

So besides high prices until they drop for BFD 2018, I’m impatiently waiting
If you don't need a tv right now, then wait until after CES. I believe the Sony's will be at least this low again just before the new releases.

In the mean time... determine which flaws will bother you most, and whether it's the best budget tv you want to score, or the best tv in your budget range. I waited all year to buy this tv at the BF price... but I did try out the best bang for your buck tv- the TCL P. I knew what I felt was unacceptable and that tv just made me want to wait on the 900E- without ever having seen it in person.

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Are you using a Sony soundbar or avr?
neither. just tv speakers for now
im going cable box hdmi to tv and thats it
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hey again guys
sorry, i hope the questions end soon...

anyway, i tried out the built in amazon app, started a movie, hit display, it says 1080p. hmm, i thought it would be 4k? i checked my network speed on my laptop, it says 866Mbps send and receive, but that seems incredibly high. is there a way i can check it on the tv itself?
will it autoplay in 4k or do i need to tell it or does it check system speed or ?

hmm, i guess i should make sure the video is supposed to be 4k first.
thanks again

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