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65" 900E got here bright and early this morning...not real happy with it though as it has about a 1 1/4" wide light bleed along the entire right hand side...its really noticeable during dark panning scenes and on content with letterboxes as it is the whole vertical column...replacement is already being processed...I swear I am having the worst luck with tv's...I'm about to go buy a $600 4k and call it a day as these higher end tv's have all been crap...other than that though the picture looks great...was easily able to get the blooming under control and even though the letterbox bars are not inky black I am A-OK with that as I have never had inky letterbox bars so am not spoiled to it...would a jump up to the 930E be better? the Z9D is not an option...





Agreed but mine is wide enough that I can't do that...if I sit on the left hand side of the sofa I can see it but not as bad...if I move 2' more its gone...unfortunately I am a Sheldon Cooper and sit on the right so it is full bore in your face...
this light banding issue is weird. I don't understand. I have 2 months left on my warranty with Sony I'm just worried I'm gonna get a worse TV

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65" 900E got here bright and early this morning...not real happy with it though as it has about a 1 1/4" wide light bleed along the entire right hand side...its really noticeable during dark panning scenes and on content with letterboxes as it is the whole vertical column...replacement is already being processed...I swear I am having the worst luck with tv's...I'm about to go buy a $600 4k and call it a day as these higher end tv's have all been crap...other than that though the picture looks great...was easily able to get the blooming under control and even though the letterbox bars are not inky black I am A-OK with that as I have never had inky letterbox bars so am not spoiled to it...would a jump up to the 930E be better? the Z9D is not an option...





Agreed but mine is wide enough that I can't do that...if I sit on the left hand side of the sofa I can see it but not as bad...if I move 2' more its gone...unfortunately I am a Sheldon Cooper and sit on the right so it is full bore in your face...
Would you mind going into the settings via Home and then to Picture & Display>Screen>Screen Position and try resizing the image/screen? I'd really like to know if that has any impact on that light band at all.

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Would you mind going into the settings via Home and then to Picture & Display>Screen>Screen Position and try resizing the image/screen? I'd really like to know if that has any impact on that light band at all.
Do you have it to?

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I've given up trying to get my Apple TV 4k to pass full 4k HDR video through my Marantz 6010. Brand new Sony xbr-900e. I can go direct to the TV with any one of the three Certified HDMI cables I have, and it works great.. Even the Cable Checker passes. But then, no audio ARC back into the Marantz. Even tried an Optical Audio out of the TV, but no 5.1 (only surround). I'm certainly open to suggestions.. Ive tried all the different troublshooting from Marantz's website as well as Sony. All Firmware updated via USB, etc. Contemplating just getting a Sony STR-ZA1100ES receiver and putting the Marantz somewhere else

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Would you mind going into the settings via Home and then to Picture & Display>Screen>Screen Position and try resizing the image/screen? I'd really like to know if that has any impact on that light band at all.
Zero difference...looks like light bleed coming around the edge of the panel...
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Zero difference...looks like light bleed coming around the edge of the panel...
I thought this wouldn't be an issue with a full array TV

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I thought this wouldn't be an issue with a full array TV

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Which I why I got this one instead of the 930E...:facepalm:
What's stupid is I almost had my TV for a year before I noticed

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Which I why I got this one instead of the 930E...:facepalm:
I think from this point on cheap 4k then oled when they fix the issues at least if there's problems I can be o well get what you pay for and be OK with it

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I have it but it's barely visible. It's more noticeable with certain images and the more off center, the more noticeable. It is not as bad as light bleed I've had on my last LCD. It Since the edges are crisp instead of fading out, I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the way they assembled the layers or attached the frame.

If this were light bleed then Rtings would have said something about it. This is their picture from the Temperature section of their review- notice the edges?

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Had my set a month before I noticed the light band. Replaced it and the new set had it on the opposite side. Getting mine replaced through Sony this go around. Settings don't really make it any better.
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I have it but it's barely visible. It's more noticeable with certain images and the more off center, the more noticeable. It is not as bad as light bleed I've had on my last LCD. It Since the edges are crisp instead of fading out, I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the way they assembled the layers or attached the frame.

If this were light bleed then Rtings would have said something about it. This is their picture from the Temperature section of their review- notice the edges?

Edit: The TCL P and Vizio P show the same thing too in Rtings temp photos.
Yep look at those light edges

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I have it but it's barely visible. It's more noticeable with certain images and the more off center, the more noticeable. It is not as bad as light bleed I've had on my last LCD. It Since the edges are crisp instead of fading out, I wonder if it doesn't have something to do with the way they assembled the layers or attached the frame.

If this were light bleed then Rtings would have said something about it. This is their picture from the Temperature section of their review- notice the edges?

Edit: The TCL P and Vizio P show the same thing too in Rtings temp photos.
So at this point it's probably fair to say everyone has this issue but some tvs have it worse than others.

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It does seem to be worse after playing an hdr game or having bright objects on the screen for an axtended time. I wonder if we can come up with something to maybe either lessen the impact or get rid of it almost entirely. The TV is still one of the best pictures I've seen and I don't think oled is mature enough to jump on and invest.

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Bad picture but shows what I am seeing...really notice it during a panning shot that's dark...there are some times it is not visible at all...mainly with muted colors tans/greens...
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Bad picture but shows what I am seeing...really notice it during a panning shot that's dark...there are some times it is not visible at all...mainly with muted colors tans/greens...
I wonder if was wallmounted if it would disappear

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HDCP 2.2 is not supported is the message that comes from my roku box when I got my new 900e. I think it's because my old Onkyo TX-SR707 receiver doesn't support it. What receivers do you guys recommend if I need to run an XBOX, roku ultimate, and some Kef speakers 3.1 setup.
I have the same problem my AVR doesn’t support all these new jazzy features........ARGHHHHHH! Something I didn’t think about when I decided to get this XBR-65X900E. So I started looking at what was available used that Sony recommended. Found a used STR-DN1060 on EBay for a little over $200 so I just bought it. Hopefully it cures all the HDMI switching issues going from Antenna to Amazon Fire TV and Apple TV. I attached a screen shot of the Sony recommended receivers from the OS. You don’t have to go with Sony but get a receiver that has the same features as the ones they recommend and you should be good to go I believe.
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Bad picture but shows what I am seeing...really notice it during a panning shot that's dark...there are some times it is not visible at all...mainly with muted colors tans/greens...
Yep exact same issue with mine.
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It's from episode 7.

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Bad picture but shows what I am seeing...really notice it during a panning shot that's dark...there are some times it is not visible at all...mainly with muted colors tans/greens...
I hope you're saying it's a bad picture because of the angle.

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I am curious as to this whole "light banding" or "light bleeding" issue everyone seems to be having. I have it on my screen too during some dark shots, but always just assumed its due to the small amount of zones in the local dimming. When I saw this it didn't strike me as a defect and was actually fairly expected. Now I could be wrong and there could certainly be some defective sets, but from what I have gathered, this is a fairly common occurrence with FALD sets, especially those with a small number of zones. I really only notice it on dark, slow-moving, panning shots. Personally, I don't find that it affects the picture all that much. Maybe some sets really do have it worse than mine though?

I also managed to fix the judder on cable tv. I simply just turned off both Motionflow and CineMotion. I leave them on for Blu Rays and such. But cable is buttery smooth without them on if anyone is having the same issues with judder I was having.

I also landed on a PQ setting. I'm using CNET's with a +3 bump in brightness, a +3 bump in color while combining that with the rtings color management of -4 RGAIN and -2 BGAIN. The picture is outstanding.
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I am curious as to this whole "light banding" or "light bleeding" issue everyone seems to be having. I have it on my screen too during some dark shots, but always just assumed its due to the small amount of zones in the local dimming. When I saw this it didn't strike me as a defect and was actually fairly expected. Now I could be wrong and there could certainly be some defective sets, but from what I have gathered, this is a fairly common occurrence with FALD sets, especially those with a small number of zones. I really only notice it on dark, slow-moving, panning shots. Personally, I don't find that it affects the picture all that much. Maybe some sets really do have it worse than mine though?

I also managed to fix the judder on cable tv. I simply just turned off both Motionflow and CineMotion. I leave them on for Blu Rays and such. But cable is buttery smooth without them on if anyone is having the same issues with judder I was having.

I also landed on a PQ setting. I'm using CNET's with a +3 bump in brightness, a +3 bump in color while combining that with the rtings color management of -4 RGAIN and -2 BGAIN. The picture is outstanding.
I believe you're correct and I don't find it offensive at all.

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Is the HDR option under Video Options set to auto? It sounds like it's set to something else.
Set to Auto. Any DirecTv/Netflix HDR content looks washed out. Amazon Prime HDR content looks great when turned on
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I am curious as to this whole "light banding" or "light bleeding" issue everyone seems to be having. I have it on my screen too during some dark shots, but always just assumed its due to the small amount of zones in the local dimming. When I saw this it didn't strike me as a defect and was actually fairly expected. Now I could be wrong and there could certainly be some defective sets, but from what I have gathered, this is a fairly common occurrence with FALD sets, especially those with a small number of zones. I really only notice it on dark, slow-moving, panning shots. Personally, I don't find that it affects the picture all that much. Maybe some sets really do have it worse than mine though?



I also managed to fix the judder on cable tv. I simply just turned off both Motionflow and CineMotion. I leave them on for Blu Rays and such. But cable is buttery smooth without them on if anyone is having the same issues with judder I was having.



I also landed on a PQ setting. I'm using CNET's with a +3 bump in brightness, a +3 bump in color while combining that with the rtings color management of -4 RGAIN and -2 BGAIN. The picture is outstanding.


It couple be common with FALD but I don’t see it on an HX909 or HX950, in same material. Maybe it’s because those were the “Z9’s” of their today. If I position myself exactly in the center the effect is reduced, though.

For average bright scenes, or ones with specular highlights, this TV destroys those, however. I actually think (average medium to high brightness) satellite looks better on this TV as well. But, the lights bands are distracting to me. I have to try not to see them. Still a good TV for the money, however.


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So at this point it's probably fair to say everyone has this issue but some tvs have it worse than others.

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NO it is NOT FAIR to say everyone has this issue. I bought my TV back in March, and there's no side light band of any kind. I dare say my picture is perfect within the realm of the technology. Also, there's over 9,000 posts in this thread, and this side light band issue has only recently been reported by a dozen or so members. It does not seem to be a wide spread problem but rather a sporadic quality control issue, likely affecting only a small number of specific units. What might actually be helpful is people who have this issue posting their serial numbers to get an idea of when these units were built. In your case, it suggests that this is a recurring issue that crops up from time to time.

This is clearly a defect, and one in which you should return to Sony, and make them replace the set until you are completely satisfied. It is surprising it took you 10 months to notice it, though. But the good news is, that if there is a new problem Sony has identified, and it seems they have from other reports, then you should be able to make a case based on it possibly having gotten worse, prompting you to seek answers on this forum.

That said, FALD does eliminate edge lit bleed, and the 900E should not have it at all. Please don't spread FUD over a problem that clearly only affects a minority of customers, as evidenced by the lack of reports over the last 10 months in this thread. As for the 930E, you can have a look at their forum, as it has its own issues. Speaking for myself, I looked closely at several TVs and for the additional $1K at the time, I didn't think the 930E was worth the money. And I still don't. It exhibited noticible edge bleed in every darkened Magnolia Best Buy showroom I saw it in, as compared to the 900E, and the PQ was not substantially better. Hopefully, you both are able to work out your warranty issues to your satisfaction. I realize it's frustrating, but again, it is by no means a problem that affects everyone.
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Set to Auto. Any DirecTv/Netflix HDR content looks washed out. Amazon Prime HDR content looks great when turned on
Most HDR from D* looks spectacular in my opinion.
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I'm assuming if you set HDR to Auto on the set, rather than forcing it by having it enabled all the time. If there is metadata available, the HDR will kick in, if not, then no HDR. Forcing it causes the "washed out" look.

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