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Not on my cable (Charter) it makes the whites really bright. Very annoying when watching a football game with white jerseys. Turned it off after the first week and only have it on for 4k HDR now.
I had that issue as well when I first got the tv but disabling Advanced Contrast Enhancer seemed to fix it for me. I also only have the Brightness set to 15 and Contrast lowered to 90. I have Charter too btw.
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I got my 55 inch 900E a couple of weeks ago and I was happy that I got a panel where I cannot see any clouding/bleeds and the blacks are awesome. I am now thinking of returning the TV as I cannot find a way to remove judder when playing files from USB with the internal video player. I don't want to wait for a firmware update that might fix this and I will be out of my return window. I cannot watch movies with stutter. I have tried every combination of motion settings and does not help. Judder removal works fine when using HDMI input. I am going to wait for 900F and see if it's better. I heard they should be in stores by April 2018.

You should try a different player like Kodi. I found it looked better and ran smoother than the default player when I tried it a few months ago.
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I got my 55 inch 900E a couple of weeks ago and I was happy that I got a panel where I cannot see any clouding/bleeds and the blacks are awesome. I am now thinking of returning the TV as I cannot find a way to remove judder when playing files from USB with the internal video player. I don't want to wait for a firmware update that might fix this and I will be out of my return window. I cannot watch movies with stutter. I have tried every combination of motion settings and does not help. Judder removal works fine when using HDMI input. I am going to wait for 900F and see if it's better. I heard they should be in stores by April 2018.

You should try a different player like Kodi. I found it looked better and ran smoother than the default player when I tried it a few months ago.
Kodi is fine but mx player is way better, but 1st off his problem is using the internal player never use the crappy tv apps. Invest in a android device like shield, it solved all my issues.
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Hi All,

Hopefully I can come to a decision! The 900e is on sale atm and I'd like to buy but I'm tentative. I have a Samsung plasma (pn50c7000) from 2010. The tv is working fine but I have a larger living room and the 65 inch seems like it will do the job just not sure if the money spent will feel like a worthwile upgrade.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Hopefully I can come to a decision! The 900e is on sale atm and I'd like to buy but I'm tentative. I have a Samsung plasma (pn50c7000) from 2010. The tv is working fine but I have a larger living room and the 65 inch seems like it will do the job just not sure if the money spent will feel like a worthwile upgrade.



Any help would be greatly appreciated!


I went from a 60” Pioneer Signature Elite Plasma to the 75” 900e in my basement. It was worth the upgrade for 15” and 4K at my viewing distance 8’. Made a huge difference for movies! My Elite Plasma is still amazing quality, colours just as good and probably smoother than the 900e without any motion settings on, but size was the ultimate factor in upgrading. It took me a while playing with the motion settings on the 900e (finally settled on motionflow at custom with smoothness of 1, clear at min, and cinemotion at high) as I found since it was a much bigger screen I noticed the motion / judder more.

I wanted to buy the 65” for my family room as I currently have an older 55” Sony (HX750) and sit about 10’ - 11’ away but my cabinet is 2mm too small! Waiting for a later version that will one day have a smaller bezel!

Coming from a Plasma I can recommend the 900e especially if you are looking to go up in size.


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Ι did a factory reset and problems with hdmi devices not opening tv still resists....pffff
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Hi All,

Hopefully I can come to a decision! The 900e is on sale atm and I'd like to buy but I'm tentative. I have a Samsung plasma (pn50c7000) from 2010. The tv is working fine but I have a larger living room and the 65 inch seems like it will do the job just not sure if the money spent will feel like a worthwile upgrade.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I went to the 55x900E from a Sony 46" 10 year old XBR plasma. WOW. Hope that helps.
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The last month TV keeps loosing AppleTV and consoles and each time i have to do a restart.

1)For example sending airplay from my Mac to Apple TV it does not auto open TV as used to......
2)Opening PS4 and Switch does not open Tv.....
3)Also correct me if i am wrong....when powering off PS4 didnt also powered off the TV?

Is there a permanent solution? I dont want to do a reset....
Change from DHCP to a static IP address.
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Change from DHCP to a static IP address.
Sorry but how this has to do with the power on and off of the TV from Playstation,Switch and Apple Tv?
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Hi All,

Hopefully I can come to a decision! The 900e is on sale atm and I'd like to buy but I'm tentative. I have a Samsung plasma (pn50c7000) from 2010. The tv is working fine but I have a larger living room and the 65 inch seems like it will do the job just not sure if the money spent will feel like a worthwile upgrade.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Can't speak to Samsung plasma, but came from a long line of Panny plasmas and my main TV is LG OLED, but I have a 65X900E in basement and I am extremely impressed with it. For the money (especially at BF and Super Bowl pricing)I don't think you can find a better TV. I would be nice if it has more dimming zones and all HDMI ports were full bandwidth, but a beautiful picture. The built in Android TV is a pig, but hook up your favorite external streamer and you are all set.

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Hi All,

Hopefully I can come to a decision! The 900e is on sale atm and I'd like to buy but I'm tentative. I have a Samsung plasma (pn50c7000) from 2010. The tv is working fine but I have a larger living room and the 65 inch seems like it will do the job just not sure if the money spent will feel like a worthwile upgrade.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Trust me the money will be well spent if you decide to go with the x900e. I have had my 55inch since Jan 26th and the wife and I love it. The PQ and black level's are very very good and honestly it has restored my love in watching movies again. I cant find anything negative to say about my set honestly. Now does it have plasma black level's? Or OLED black levels? No but it aint far behind in my opinion. One thing I will say is the built in app's need work but if you have a Blu ray player or streaming device use those as your go to for streaming. Otherwise its an excellent tv. Just my opinion.
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Trust me the money will be well spent if you decide to go with the x900e. I have had my 55inch since Jan 26th and the wife and I love it. The PQ and black level's are very very good and honestly it has restored my love in watching movies again. I cant find anything negative to say about my set honestly. Now does it have plasma black level's? Or OLED black levels? No but it aint far behind in my opinion. One thing I will say is the built in app's need work but if you have a Blu ray player or streaming device use those as your go to for streaming. Otherwise its an excellent tv. Just my opinion.
We are the same. I came from a long line of Panny plasmas and the big test was the attack of Hogwarts in the last Harry Potter blu ray.

Previously all i heard was voices of the attackers in the dark with Hogwarts lit up in the background. Now I can see the wizards talking even though it is still dark, people are visible. It is not a brightness or contrast 'thing' as I tried that on the panny up to max and it was pretty bad still. I am in the process of rewatching source material and everything I watch is better on the Sony.

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Based on my observations it doesn't seem to support 60fps either. I think some of the Sony motion smoothing gives the impression of 60fps but comparing with the same videos on my computer, the 60fps videos on the Sony app seem lacking. What's the most expedient way to get 4K 60FPS HDR onto this display. Is it the Chromecast?
I think that's a good question. I have a Roku premier+ and while I love the ease of use with it, I have a lot of purple screen issues with Netflix. I've been using the native android tv apps for a while now and haven't noticed any serious issues with quality. I also don't know if Netflix on the native sony app vs Roku is running any differently? I think I just got used to streaming with the TV apps. I also have a Sony X800 UHD player, but I've never tried streaming from there. I think it would be a great service if we could get everything in one place and find out who is streaming what quality and how it looks on our sets.
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Can't speak to Samsung plasma, but came from a long line of Panny plasmas and my main TV is LG OLED, but I have a 65X900E in basement and I am extremely impressed with it.
Samsung made a great Plasma, but the Panasonic was always a tad better......
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Hi All,

Hopefully I can come to a decision! The 900e is on sale atm and I'd like to buy but I'm tentative. I have a Samsung plasma (pn50c7000) from 2010. The tv is working fine but I have a larger living room and the 65 inch seems like it will do the job just not sure if the money spent will feel like a worthwile upgrade.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
I think you'll really like it. I came from the Sony 940e which had basically perfect local dimming and was about 5 times as bright as a plasma. It looked stunning but had some motion blur i couldn't live with. The 900e is pretty similar. You will get a little blooming in dark scenes with bright highlights but there are ways to mitigate that with the correct settings...Don't use max brightness, turn contrast down some, set Xtended Dynamic Range to low or off with non-hdr content, turn black level down just a tad. It's not a perfect set, but it's really really good.

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Hey guys, the manual says to use 8-12mm M6 screws for wall mounting. Both mounts I have, came with M6 35mm, so I had to use 2 washers as well as 2 spacers. Ideally I would prefer to use 1 spacer but 35mm are too long for just one spacer. Is anyone else using M6 screws that are longer than 12mm or should I scrap my 35mm and go and pick up some M6 12mm? Thanks
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Hey guys, the manual says to use 8-12mm M6 screws for wall mounting. Both mounts I have, came with M6 35mm, so I had to use 2 washers as well as 2 spacers. Ideally I would prefer to use 1 spacer but 35mm are too long for just one spacer. Is anyone else using M6 screws that are longer than 12mm or should I scrap my 35mm and go and pick up some M6 12mm? Thanks
Haha, a bunch of us were talking about this a couple of days ago.

I have my 65'' on a Sanus MLF13-B1 mount, and I bought M6 x 16mm bolts for it (not using any washers).
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I think you'll really like it. I came from the Sony 940e which had basically perfect local dimming and was about 5 times as bright as a plasma. It looked stunning but had some motion blur i couldn't live with. The 900e is pretty similar. You will get a little blooming in dark scenes with bright highlights but there are ways to mitigate that with the correct settings...Don't use max brightness, turn contrast down some, set Xtended Dynamic Range to low or off with non-hdr content, turn black level down just a tad. It's not a perfect set, but it's really really good.
Yeah I think I will too. The wife has given the go a head. It’s definitely a want over a need purchase which is probably why I’m agonising over it. I’ll pull the pin on it today and have a new tv delivered for next weekend. Be nice to be able to enjoy tv and ps4 during the day with the extra brightness. Horror movies in the dark won’t feel as dark I reckon but everything else we watch on it will be a bigger upgrade.
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I got my 55 inch 900E a couple of weeks ago and I was happy that I got a panel where I cannot see any clouding/bleeds and the blacks are awesome. I am now thinking of returning the TV as I cannot find a way to remove judder when playing files from USB with the internal video player. I don't want to wait for a firmware update that might fix this and I will be out of my return window. I cannot watch movies with stutter. I have tried every combination of motion settings and does not help. Judder removal works fine when using HDMI input. I am going to wait for 900F and see if it's better. I heard they should be in stores by April 2018.

Try using a different media player. I have ripped 4k movies stored on a HDD and they would not even play with the internal video player. With VLC media player, they play fine. USB has speed limitations too. What version of USB drive are you using. Also do you have it plugged into the USB 3.0 jack and not one of the other ones.

Also agree that Plex cannot handle 4K streaming and many apps cannot. Too much bandwith needed. Plex works fine for me on a 1080P stream but is unplayable on 4K.
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Personally, I'd never return a perfectly good panel because of deficiencies of the internal app.

Why not use your Bluray Player to play files? That's what I do for movies (OPPO-103) with a hard drive attached. No stutter, no judder, no nothing.

UNLESS - - you are seeing unacceptable judder on all your other sources. IMHO.
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Makes sense. I am going to buy a UHD bluray player and try. I still have a week. I am going to test other apps as well like Netflix but I haven't seen any judder/stutter when using it so far and I believe they don't use 24p streams.
While at BestBuy last night to check out UHD players, I tested playing the movie file from my USB on a 930E and it played without judder. So X1 Extreme processor seems to makes the difference.

Also worth noting is, when using the internal video app on my 900E, the preview window that plays a segment of the movie in a loop is very smooth! So it looks like the app needs a fix.
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Hey guys, the manual says to use 8-12mm M6 screws for wall mounting. Both mounts I have, came with M6 35mm, so I had to use 2 washers as well as 2 spacers. Ideally I would prefer to use 1 spacer but 35mm are too long for just one spacer. Is anyone else using M6 screws that are longer than 12mm or should I scrap my 35mm and go and pick up some M6 12mm? Thanks
Haha, a bunch of us were talking about this a couple of days ago.

I have my 65'' on a Sanus MLF13-B1 mount, and I bought M6 x 16mm bolts for it (not using any washers).
Hmm, I have the Sanus VLF 525 for my 65". Maybe I'll go and check out the M6 16mm screws and see if that will work with 1 spacer, instead of having to use 2 with the 35mm I'm using right now.
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Yeah I think I will too. The wife has given the go a head. It’s definitely a want over a need purchase which is probably why I’m agonising over it. I’ll pull the pin on it today and have a new tv delivered for next weekend. Be nice to be able to enjoy tv and ps4 during the day with the extra brightness. Horror movies in the dark won’t feel as dark I reckon but everything else we watch on it will be a bigger upgrade.
RE: "Horror movies in the dark won’t feel as dark I reckon but everything else we watch on it will be a bigger upgrade."

Au contraire! One of the absolute BEST benefits of the Sony 900E is the incredible detail in dark shots. If your settings are right, you will see dark detail and layers of detail that you have never seen before.

A perfect example is the Netflix series "Iron Fist." At the beginning, and underground, there is a fight scene that is extremely dark with bright highlights (HDR). As my friend's daughter said after seeing the series on her Vizio TV and then just the beginning of Episode One on my Sony 75" 900E - - and I quote, "It's the first time that I can see what's going on!

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Yeah I think I will too. The wife has given the go a head. It’s definitely a want over a need purchase which is probably why I’m agonising over it. I’ll pull the pin on it today and have a new tv delivered for next weekend. Be nice to be able to enjoy tv and ps4 during the day with the extra brightness. Horror movies in the dark won’t feel as dark I reckon but everything else we watch on it will be a bigger upgrade.
I wouldn't say that horror movies in the dark won't feel as dark by any stretch. The tv handles dark scenes extremely well and watching movies in the dark is awesome. There is some slight blooming in certain scenes but it's not a deal breaker by any means. And, some bias lighting helps tremendously with perceived blooming and looks really nice. Check out these shots for an example of dark scene performance.
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I wouldn't say that horror movies in the dark won't feel as dark by any stretch. The tv handles dark scenes extremely well and watching movies in the dark is awesome. There is some slight blooming in certain scenes but it's not a deal breaker by any means. And, some bias lighting helps tremendously with perceived blooming and looks really nice. Check out these shots for an example of dark scene performance.
Oh wow! Those shots look way better than my plasma.
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I wouldn't say that horror movies in the dark won't feel as dark by any stretch. The tv handles dark scenes extremely well and watching movies in the dark is awesome. There is some slight blooming in certain scenes but it's not a deal breaker by any means. And, some bias lighting helps tremendously with perceived blooming and looks really nice. Check out these shots for an example of dark scene performance.
Accent lighting not "bias lighting", but I'm splitting hairs. Looks nice.

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Does bias lighting work if my TV is not mounted on the wall?
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Does bias lighting work if my TV is not mounted on the wall?
Sure, as long as there is a wall behind it to reflect the light.

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Here's a review I did with some settings. YouTube blocked it for copyright reasons but I disputed it and I think it's unlocked now.


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Sure, as long as there is a wall behind it to reflect the light.
There's a wall, but it's not white
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@josh are your lights luminoodle? That's what i have on mine I had to plug them into Direc tv receiver for them to work right. The only bummer to that is i have to use remote to turn them off.
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