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I have a 75" 900E scheduled for delivery next week, replacing my 940D with bad motion streaks. I've read every single page of this thread and I'm hopeful I end up with one of the great sets that others own. I'm a little concerned with some of the drops in spec's on paper, but if it means a smooth picture for hockey without seeing multiple versions of the player...I'll take it.
You'll be fine. Good luck and enjoy!
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If you're 65" vino does everything you like at present, why force the issue? The 900F is available now, and in a few months will likely start going on sale to rival current 900E prices. What's the rush?



THIS. The only fear I had until recently was whether HDR-10 would be supported where DV was otherwise offered. The way it looks now is that any media that supports DV also likely supports HDR-10. Unless there's a major shift in the industry, all major platforms should support both. So the lack of DV on the 900E is never likely to be a problem except for the most particular viewer, and even then, they're not likely to have settled for the 900E in the first place.
Get the 900E, the picture is incredible.Watching the Olympics on a 75" is breathtaking.Feels like I could just walk into the screen and be in South korea![IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
I am tempted. Do you game on it? How is the motion? I was looking at the 940e but I heard the motion was terrible especially when gaming.
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I've tried new cables from walmart as well, same issue occurs
And you are sure they are rated at 18gb per second?

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I have a 75" 900E scheduled for delivery next week, replacing my 940D with bad motion streaks. I've read every single page of this thread and I'm hopeful I end up with one of the great sets that others own. I'm a little concerned with some of the drops in spec's on paper, but if it means a smooth picture for hockey without seeing multiple versions of the player...I'll take it.
I originally came from the 940d. Developed a couple vertical bands right down the center that was really obvious when watching 4k hdr blu rays. Got the 940e and it had really bad motion blur. So now I have the 900e.

The blacks were a little bit deeper on the 940d and the local dimming was a bit better. I never noticed any haloing or blooming on the 940d. This set has a little bit. But it's much brighter and the motion is much better. You'll be happy.

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Thanks for the support. Looking forward to getting it up on my wall.
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Good point. That's why I didn't order the Medialight, didn't want to drop that kind of coin on some light thingamajig as you say, 'behind the tv.' But isn't there some sort of Luminoodle remote you can add to just the noodle light thing?

But that's strange about the splitter, cuz a grounded three way, if not more than a foot or so long, as long as its of the same or greater gauge, shouldn't really be any different then being plugged into the wall outlet.
Any bias lights I tried would blink when plugged into any USB port of the Sony. I ended up buying a small, inexpensive multi-port USB hub that I then connected to a wife-enabled plug that is controlled via on app on my phone. I ran 2 6.6foot strands of light around all sides of my 65" into the hub with the hub plugged into the open electrical outlet behind the wall-mounted TV. Total cost was around $40. Easy enough to turn on and off, and it works great.
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I originally came from the 940d. Developed a couple vertical bands right down the center that was really obvious when watching 4k hdr blu rays. Got the 940e and it had really bad motion blur. So now I have the 900e.

The blacks were a little bit deeper on the 940d and the local dimming was a bit better. I never noticed any haloing or blooming on the 940d. This set has a little bit. But it's much brighter and the motion is much better. You'll be happy.
I was thinking of picking up the 940e but reading about the really bad motion turned me off. I am considering getting 75 900 e now, currently i have vizio p65 c1. Not sure if I should wait on the 900 f see how that is or pull the trigger on the 900 e. I have heard nothing but good things about the 900 e that is why it is very tempting.
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And you are sure they are rated at 18gb per second?
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I have a 75" 900E scheduled for delivery next week, replacing my 940D with bad motion streaks. I've read every single page of this thread and I'm hopeful I end up with one of the great sets that others own. I'm a little concerned with some of the drops in spec's on paper, but if it means a smooth picture for hockey without seeing multiple versions of the player...I'll take it.
Well - after watching the thrilling women’s gold medal hockey game, I can assure you that the Sony 900E can handle hockey. What an incredible third period and shootout. And what a great show for women’s hockey. Two incredibly matched teams going at it with all that intensity. No banding, no motion issues whatsoever.

Truly an incredible game and a gold medal performance by my Sony 900E!
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Well - after watching the thrilling women’s gold medal hockey game, I can assure you that the Sony 900E can handle hockey. What an incredible third period and shootout. And what a great show for women’s hockey. Two incredibly matched teams going at it with all that intensity. No banding, no motion issues whatsoever.

Truly an incredible game and a gold medal performance by my Sony 900E!
I watched that too on my 900E, but being Canadian, didn't like the result as much as you, haha.
Too bad it wasn't in 4K, but the image was great nonetheless.
Funny that it was while watching hockey on my 800E and seeing how bad the picture was, is what lead me to getting the 900E.

Congrats on the Gold Medal.
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I watched that too on my 900E, but being Canadian, didn't like the result as much as you, haha.
Too bad it wasn't in 4K, but the image was great nonetheless.
Funny that it was while watching hockey on my 800E and seeing how bad the picture was, is what lead me to getting the 900E.

Congrats on the Gold Medal.
Much thanks and congrats to women's hockey as this game had everything you wanted, except for the ending - - depending on what team you were rooting for. Wow - wouldn't this have made an incredible 4K broadcast? I wonder if it's on tape (Comcast's new 4K STB). I'll be picking up one soon and I'm hoping they leave the Winter Olympics on their servers for a while.

The Sony 900E does a great job with hockey. The international ice size (rink) is really noticeable - especially the extra 13+ feet in width. Truly stellar picture. I'm tired from watching the game and the medal ceremony afterwards. I looked at my clock and it was 1:00PM here in Denver when everything wrapped up.
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Much thanks and congrats to women's hockey as this game had everything you wanted, except for the ending - - depending on what team you were rooting for. Wow - wouldn't this have made an incredible 4K broadcast? I wonder if it's on tape (Comcast's new 4K STB). I'll be picking up one soon and I'm hoping they leave the Winter Olympics on their servers for a while.

The Sony 900E does a great job with hockey. The international ice size (rink) is really noticeable - especially the extra 13+ feet in width. Truly stellar picture. I'm tired from watching the game and the medal ceremony afterwards. I looked at my clock and it was 1:00PM here in Denver when everything wrapped up.
Amazing game and it looked great! I watch a lot of Boston Bruins hockey and it looks great also as does Celtics games!

The 900E is a great TV for sports.
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I have a 75" 900E scheduled for delivery next week, replacing my 940D with bad motion streaks. I've read every single page of this thread and I'm hopeful I end up with one of the great sets that others own. I'm a little concerned with some of the drops in spec's on paper, but if it means a smooth picture for hockey without seeing multiple versions of the player...I'll take it.
You will know soon enough that's for sure. Was that a warranty claim? Just curious, Why not a 940E?
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i have the same problem , it is the Apple there i making the problem
I have a Denon x5200 and I have the same issue. An earlier post talked about a Denon problem that causes this but I do not think that's the case. It's prevalent across multiple AVR's & other platforms. I think it's a Sony CEC issue (Bravia Sync) and how it plays with your system. And, the inherent issues with ARC, period.

Now, after powering off my entire system, including the TV/AVR & Amplifier, I play the Jeopardy jingle in my head and see if my AVR magically turns on again. ARC = "It is what it is."

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I have a Denon x5200 and I have the same issue. An earlier post talked about a Denon problem that causes this but I do not think that's the case. It's prevalent across multiple AVR's & other platforms. I think it's a Sony CEC issue (Bravia Sync) and how it plays with your system. And, the inherent issues with ARC, period.

Now, after powering off my entire system, including the TV/AVR & Amplifier, I play the Jeopardy jingle in my head and see if my AVR magically turns on again. ARC = "It is what it is."
I'm gonna install/setup a Denon AVR & 900E this afternoon...Do you recommend not using ARC?
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No - absolutely setup and use ARC. Just be aware that there can be hiccups along the way.

ARC provides the best audio possible from internal apps. - DD+, which is also capable of Dolby Atmos (lossy - compressed). It is the "Go To" format (DD+) for most streaming sites - Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.
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No - absolutely setup and use ARC. Just be aware that there can be hiccups along the way.

ARC provides the best audio possible from internal apps. - DD+, which is also capable of Dolby Atmos (lossy - compressed). It is the "Go To" format (DD+) for most streaming sites - Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.
Cool, Thanks! I've kinda been out of the loop for several years and this jumping back in with new equipment makes me appear & feel like a Newbie...I'll do the ARC connection...Hope the TV shows up (Delivery Time was 10:00 am Central) we had ice & snow last night, may not show up today!!!
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You will know soon enough that's for sure. Was that a warranty claim? Just curious, Why not a 940E?
I wish it was a warranty claim, but despite 5 or so escalations, Sony will not do anything to help me. I posted my experience along with extremely obvious pictures of the motion blur in the 940D thread. Sony engineer’s deemed it “within specification”, and the national customer care representative wouldn’t throw me even the tiniest of bones.

My reasons for going with the 900E are:
  • I can’t justify dropping another $4k on a TV if I’m not going to get the support that should go along with it. Yes, I can go to other brands, but I have reasons why I want to stick with Sony despite the treatment. I just won’t give them as much money as I could.
  • I’ve read every post of this 900E thread and can’t recall a single motion related observation. In the 940E thread there are still reports of motion issues...it may be less, but I’m not rolling the dice again.
  • It will take a year for the 900F to come down to this price level. The current price of the 900E is great value, and I can’t stand watching the 940D anymore.
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I was thinking of picking up the 940e but reading about the really bad motion turned me off. I am considering getting 75 900 e now, currently i have vizio p65 c1. Not sure if I should wait on the 900 f see how that is or pull the trigger on the 900 e. I have heard nothing but good things about the 900 e that is why it is very tempting.
Yeah, i consider it an upgrade. The blacks were slightly deeper and the local dimming was slightly better on the 940d, but everything else about the 900e is an improvement. Much brighter (I kept the 940d on max brightness and never had an issue, i keep the 900e on about 25) Motion is incredibly smooth especially if you like a mild soap opera effect too.

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I bought a new Denon S930H when I got my TV and after fiddling with various settings I think I have ARC working well enough. On my AVR you can have ARC on while turning auto switching and all the other HDMI features off. I still ran into the speaker cycling loop after that, but I found that when I turn on the AVR first and then the TV (I have a Harmony 650 remote) everything works fine. There's just a quick flash when the TV first turns on where it will go black and say turning on external speakers but after that every thing works perfect.

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Well - after watching the thrilling women’s gold medal hockey game, I can assure you that the Sony 900E can handle hockey. What an incredible third period and shootout. And what a great show for women’s hockey. Two incredibly matched teams going at it with all that intensity. No banding, no motion issues whatsoever.

Truly an incredible game and a gold medal performance by my Sony 900E!
I agree. I have the 55". Hockey looks great, but all processing should be turned off. I found that if any processing is turned on, the puck disappears when slapped. All LEDs will do this. It's also a great match for the Xbox One X--Forza looks incredible!
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Well - after watching the thrilling women’s gold medal hockey game, I can assure you that the Sony 900E can handle hockey. What an incredible third period and shootout. And what a great show for women’s hockey. Two incredibly matched teams going at it with all that intensity. No banding, no motion issues whatsoever.

Truly an incredible game and a gold medal performance by my Sony 900E!
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I watched that too on my 900E, but being Canadian, didn't like the result as much as you, haha.
Too bad it wasn't in 4K, but the image was great nonetheless.
Funny that it was while watching hockey on my 800E and seeing how bad the picture was, is what lead me to getting the 900E.

Congrats on the Gold Medal.

Replay is on right now in 4K on Directv. Didn't catch it yesterday so I'm really enjoying this right now. These Sony sets are so awesome when fed good quality content.
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4K HDR .MKV Files

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Purchase

I appreciate everybodies advise and input on whether I should purchase the 900e. Well I placed the order with bestbuy for them to deliver the unit to my house. My room is only 10 x 10 so 75 inch may be a little overkill but I always wanted to own a 75 inch tv. Hopefully I get a good one.
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I can spare you the suspense and the other poster a frustrating store return- there is no way that jumping from a 55" panel to this 75" 900E is going to look good at 8 feet viewing distance for 1080i/720p broadcast cable TV.

It's not that it's a fallacy; it's just skewed perspective. For cable cutters, for Apple TV 4K streamers, for Netflix savants, for people who just watch movies, yes, you can jump from a 55" to a 75" from 8 feet away. Have at it. Will look good. Just like it does when your nose is pressed against the 4K TV wall at Best Buy when you're watching 4K content off of a disc in the back room.

But what they don't tell you is that for good ol' 1080i and 720p coming out of lukewarm cable boxes, you don't get a leap forward in picture quality. It's a leap backwards at the same viewing distance. The imperfections in the signal quality is amplified, you see smearing and blocking you've never seen before.

Word to the wise: It's about what you watch, not what the 900E is actually capable of. The advice in this thread is almost entirely from the perspective of early adopter purist videophiles who watch 4K and HDR and do a lot of gaming. What's not taken into account are the Average Joe's whose original HDTV's are now 8 to 10 years old and are ready for replacement. We Average Joe's watch a lot of broadcast cable and 4K TV's aren't a leap forwards for that content.

Thank you for your thoughtful post. I was on the verge of buying a 75" 900e and sitting 10-11 feet away. Over 50% of the use will be watching sports broadcast 1080i/720p on Fios.

It sounds like the best thing to do is to get a 65" to avoid seeing amplified imperfections of cable TV. Have other "average" TV watchers had similar experiences watching cable sports on 900e? Thanks
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I have some 4K HDR .mkv files I'd like to play on my x900e. What is the best way to do that?
They'll play right on the tv through the video app. Just throw them on a hard drive and plug into the USB ports on the back. I do it all the time.

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Thank you for your thoughtful post. I was on the verge of buying a 75" 900e and sitting 10-11 feet away. Over 50% of the use will be watching sports broadcast 1080i/720p on Fios.

It sounds like the best thing to do is to get a 65" to avoid seeing amplified imperfections of cable TV. Have other "average" TV watchers had similar experiences watching cable sports on 900e? Thanks
I watch OTA at a distance of 6.5 ft or so from my 65" and don't really notice things unless I'm nitpicking/find myself looking for them specifically; the experience is great. My parents have a 75" W850D (a very-arguably inferior TV to the 900E) and we watch UVerse on that one from anywhere from 4 ft. - 14 ft. away with no issues.

That said, boltjames' comment is absolutely valid; lower-quality signals don't look as good upscaled. If you catch yourself 'watching the TV' more than watching TV programming then the smaller screen might be better, but if you tend to just enjoy what you see then there really shouldn't be much downside to getting the 75".
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Thank you for your thoughtful post. I was on the verge of buying a 75" 900e and sitting 10-11 feet away. Over 50% of the use will be watching sports broadcast 1080i/720p on Fios.

It sounds like the best thing to do is to get a 65" to avoid seeing amplified imperfections of cable TV. Have other "average" TV watchers had similar experiences watching cable sports on 900e? Thanks
I don't agree with this. Yes, an image stretched out to 75 inches will not be perfectly crisp and some imperfections will be seen. But it's not like the image is horrible. 50% of the use is broadcast tv and the other 50% will be netflix, blu ray movies and other streaming then I'd say go for it. We have a 75 inch and are about 12 feet away and we mostly watch Disney Jr. We used to have a 65 inch Samsung and the cable tv did look a little better because the screen was smaller, but I would not go back to a 65 again. Too small. Plus when you watch movies, the letterbox cuts the screen size down even further. Some channels look better than others and even some programs on the same channels look better than others. I wouldn't be so worried that I wouldn't get the 75.
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