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Is it the part from 0:03 - 0:06, when the bird is passing by the mountains? The mountains are shaking behind the bird.


Is that it, or are there more parts that are concerning you?
In that clip the skipping/shaking at the beginning but also at the end the peaks on the left and right stutter. There's also pixelation/blur on the parts that skip but I'm not sure how easy it is to see from my upload. I'm also getting blur around smaller moving objects, particularly in sports where it can look like all the players are running around in little pixel blur halos.
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Why do you think Smooth is awful, when it's supposed to help with motion? Why do you think it's not helping what it was meant to do?
For me smooth adds too much motion interpolation and introduces artifacts that look like blur. Too aggressive. When you turn motion interpolation too high, the tv processor has to introduce more artificial frames in between the real ones and often times cannot keep up with where the pixels should be displaying the appropriate colors and you get that ghosting hazy artifact look.

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In that clip the skipping/shaking at the beginning but also at the end the peaks on the left and right stutter. There's also pixelation/blur on the parts that skip but I'm not sure how easy it is to see from my upload. I'm also getting blur around smaller moving objects, particularly in sports where it can look like all the players are running around in little pixel blur halos.
Is that streaming or from a disc? If it's streaming I would say just part of the compression in a challenging scene for motion. Also depending on how old the content is will make a difference. I have watched the original Planet Earth on Netflix and some scenes look amazing and others look like crap. The sports you're watching I assume is on cable or satellite and you will get compression artifacts.

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In that clip the skipping/shaking at the beginning but also at the end the peaks on the left and right stutter. There's also pixelation/blur on the parts that skip but I'm not sure how easy it is to see from my upload. I'm also getting blur around smaller moving objects, particularly in sports where it can look like all the players are running around in little pixel blur halos.

Yes, I see the stuttering now at 0:12.
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For me smooth adds too much motion interpolation and introduces artifacts that look like blur. Too aggressive. When you turn motion interpolation too high, the tv processor has to introduce more artificial frames in between the real ones and often times cannot keep up with where the pixels should be displaying the appropriate colors and you get that ghosting hazy artifact look.

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What is the difference between Smoothness at 1 and Clearness at Min, and having MotionFlow set to off?

What does it really mean if I had Smoothness at 1, Clearness at Min, and Cinemotion at High?

One more question here.
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on a 4k HDR UHD disc, should you be able to just turn off all motion settings and be good? I've had mine at TrueCinema and Medium for the longest time and that seems to work out for me. I remember watching the Planet Earth 2 disc and cranking up the the soap opera effects and seeing a clear outline around the giraffe running. While the water looked more natural with the SOE, other motions looked like the giraffe. It was tough finding that balance between the 2, but I think Joshua Gourds settings worked out well for documentaries (in which case, I think the SOE looks best)
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Whether it’s because of the 900e upscaling abilities or just my eyesight, I’m not seeing much difference between my 720p files, 1080p BDs and my 4K UHD discs. Just tested out a couple MI discs and can’t tell the difference.

The Deadpool one was different though I have to admit.


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In terms of seeing the difference between the sources you mention, YMMV and if I read it correctly, you have one of the best 4K players out there - the OPPO 203.

As always, it’s all about source content and how the original content was captured as well as how the disc was mastered - whether that be video or the soundtrack mix.

As mentioned before, I had a difficult time in seeing any difference between 4K discs that I rented and quality Netflix 4K/HDR content - especially Netflix content that was specifically shot in 4K from start to finish. Can there be content that looks better, period, with 4K via a UHD disc versus streaming? I suppose so but I didn’t see any. That might be due to my limited sample size of 4K discs (10+) or my Samsung 4K player (K-8500) - but I was extremely disappointed and subsequently sold my 4K player while keeping my trusty OPPO 103 for regular Blu-ray Discs.

It also comes down to your personal preference. Do you see or hear enough of a difference between a UHD disc versus streaming or a regular Blu-ray Disc?? Is it worth the cost to acquire physical media, especially if you rarely watch something more than once? To me, there is no right or wrong answer here. It’s all about what works best for you.

And what works best for me is streaming with an occasional rental of a Blu-ray Disc. And - Dolby Atmos via ARC with Netflix via my Sony 900F. (I have both the Sony 900E and Sony 900F). Now, my situation is different in that for new movies, I have both the Movie Pass and AMC Stubs A-List.

In closing, I’d be a happy camper if all my content looked as good as my OTA channels in 1080i as upscaled by my Sony TV’s.

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In that clip the skipping/shaking at the beginning but also at the end the peaks on the left and right stutter. There's also pixelation/blur on the parts that skip but I'm not sure how easy it is to see from my upload. I'm also getting blur around smaller moving objects, particularly in sports where it can look like all the players are running around in little pixel blur halos.
I see the stutter, not sure what that issue is but the blur around the players is an artifact from over-sharpening, are you using football mode to watch the sports? Football mode introduces all kinds of artifacts and messes with the colors (over saturation).

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Is that streaming or from a disc? If it's streaming I would say just part of the compression in a challenging scene for motion. Also depending on how old the content is will make a difference. I have watched the original Planet Earth on Netflix and some scenes look amazing and others look like crap. The sports you're watching I assume is on cable or satellite and you will get compression artifacts.
The clip was streaming, and yep sports is cable. Thanks for the info!
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One more question here.
Don't think there's much of a difference. I think you have to have cinemotion set to medium before the smoothness setting has any effect. Not 100% sure on this. I don't have any FACTS to back this up, it's just my observation. Don't know what the FACTS are behind this. I can only offer my opinion on what I have personally observed with my own eyes. If you want just the facts, maybe another guy around here can answer you ...lol

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RE: What does that "Sony Select" mean? Is that a category of a promotion?

I believe this is a listing of specific, approved “Sony Select” apps that work with your Sony TV.
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Good advice. A manager from Sony called me yesterday and I stated my case, as calmly and sympathetically as possible going over the evidence again. She said she'll revisit my case and push it back up the chain again but no promises. We'll see what happens from here..
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Did the 900E ever get Dolby Vision?
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No and it won't. Despite what most people say I was told it has nothing to do with the processor.

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I see the stutter, not sure what that issue is but the blur around the players is an artifact from over-sharpening, are you using football mode to watch the sports? Football mode introduces all kinds of artifacts and messes with the colors (over saturation).
While playing God of war on the X900E I noticed what looked like interpolation artifacts as well.

Don't if it an issue with the engine used for GOW or if there is some interpolation happening on the TV itself.
I have all motionflow settings off and am running in game mode.

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Just fwiw, I've had my 75" 900E for a year or so, and am quite happy with it.

I've been watching The Arrow on Netflix, using the TV's App, and I have to see it looks incredibly good. The detail is just remarkable at times.

I keep checking to see if it's somehow 4k/HDR, but it's not. The Display Info shows 1080P, and rate of around 5-6 mbps.

But for whatever reason, the picture quality for this series (I'm now on Season 4) is just spectacular.

Just curious if others have seen this as well.

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While playing God of war on the X900E I noticed what looked like interpolation artifacts as well.

Don't if it an issue with the engine used for GOW or if there is some interpolation happening on the TV itself.
I have all motionflow settings off and am running in game mode.

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No tv is perfect. GOW on PS4 Pro was by far thee best game I have ever played or seen. It was jaw dropping from start to finish. Nuff said.


I think what I am seeing is the checkerboard rendering being employed to get the game to 4K.

I have seen major checkerboard artifacts playing Rise of the tomb raider.


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Agreed that no TV is perfect and that pursuit will drive a man insane.


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Just fwiw, I've had my 75" 900E for a year or so, and am quite happy with it.

I've been watching The Arrow on Netflix, using the TV's App, and I have to see it looks incredibly good. The detail is just remarkable at times.

I keep checking to see if it's somehow 4k/HDR, but it's not. The Display Info shows 1080P, and rate of around 5-6 mbps.

But for whatever reason, the picture quality for this series (I'm now on Season 4) is just spectacular.

Just curious if others have seen this as well.
Not specifically for ARROW, but this TV handles 1080 upscale extremely well. That’s why we all put up with the quirks. I have a BluRay SciFi series from the 70s which you’d swear was 4K, until they get to the SFX shots, which were composited badly and could only be cleaned up so much. That’s how you know anyone complaining about poor looking 720 or 1080 on this set is watching a poor source, and not the fault of the ups along process, particularly not on this TV.

It amazes me those people would rather stay with 1080 technology rather than force their content providers to improve, or look for alternate options for that content, like the streaming apps for those cable channels.
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True Cinema with Cinemotion set to high should only be used for 24p content like movies.

If you want clear motion that is nice and smooth but not too much soap opera effect try these settings
Motionflow Custom, Smoothness at 1 or 2, Clearness at Min, Cinemotion at Med.

I have used these motion settings for several days now.


I have done testing by watching MLB games.



I'm content that the motion looks the same as my plasma when the ball is thrown at the batter, as it goes toward the batter.


I was even wondering whether the level of detail was the same. But here are 2 pictures, first from the plasma, 2nd from the Sony. They look the same level of detail.


Ignore the color differences, as I think that's more about the exposure settings and light conditions in the different rooms, even though I tried to keep them the same. And I seem to prefer a warmer color temperature with the plasma, and a cooler one with the Sony.


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However, there is a hitch when the pitcher is at the start of his windup motion, before he releases his ball. I've tried both with the motion settings above, and with MotionFlow and CineMotion off.



I've tried games cast from my phone, and directly from the MLB.TV app.


Almost every time, I see a hitch by the pitcher. I can upload a video if it would really help.


I've never had this observation with my plasma.


Any advice?



As I said, I'm content that the motion of the ball, once it is released, is fine. But the motion of the pitcher, as he's throwing it, seems off.
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Just to make sure one more time, I'll be able to watch a replay of today's game on MLB.TV since it's the free game of the day.


Maybe the pitchers from those other games had a unique delivery.


The ones today seem pretty fluid, so when the replay is available through MLB.TV, I'll compare again tonight.
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Any suggestions for picture setting within game mode? I have started to experience pretty severe black crush with darker HDR gaming content.

Day time scenes in Horizon:ZD are a sight to behold, but once the sunsets nighttime scenes are crushed.
If you look to the night sky moon and stars are highly detailed, but trees and foliage are pretty much black blobs.

Turning off HDR in game pretty much fixed the issue, but obviously we want to use one of the major selling features for both the PS4 Pro/X900E.

My original X900E doesn’t seem to exhibit the same issue, so could so have switched panel manufacturers mid gen?


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Hey all,

I have a Sony 65X900E with a Denon AVR-X3400H connected to it via HDMI with arc active. Xfinity cable box connected to Denon with HDMI. When watching any TV content i do get sound thru my speakers when switching my receiver on. When i click on any of the apps on the TV ( Amazon, youtube ) i still hear sound from the channel that the TV was on but now see the picture from the app i am watching? What gives?

I am not hearing the sound from the app i am watching. I know this was working before but have made some changes with connections and how i hooked things up. Don't think i need to connect the digital optical cable from the TV to the receiver just to hear the sound from the apps?

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I have used these motion settings for several days now.


I have done testing by watching MLB games.



I'm content that the motion looks the same as my plasma when the ball is thrown at the batter, as it goes toward the batter.


I was even wondering whether the level of detail was the same. But here are 2 pictures, first from the plasma, 2nd from the Sony. They look the same level of detail.


Ignore the color differences, as I think that's more about the exposure settings and light conditions in the different rooms, even though I tried to keep them the same. And I seem to prefer a warmer color temperature with the plasma, and a cooler one with the Sony.


https://i.imgur.com/DQ2WfV5.jpg


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However, there is a hitch when the pitcher is at the start of his windup motion, before he releases his ball. I've tried both with the motion settings above, and with MotionFlow and CineMotion off.



I've tried games cast from my phone, and directly from the MLB.TV app.


Almost every time, I see a hitch by the pitcher. I can upload a video if it would really help.


I've never had this observation with my plasma.


Any advice?



As I said, I'm content that the motion of the ball, once it is released, is fine. But the motion of the pitcher, as he's throwing it, seems off.
The AndroidTV MLB app seems to have a number of quirks. I find the MLB app on my Roku premier+ to have a better picture and less buffering.
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The AndroidTV MLB app seems to have a number of quirks. I find the MLB app on my Roku premier+ to have a better picture and less buffering.

Thanks. At least that seems to be a reasonable explanation, that it could be the app on that platform (Android TV). And it could be a buffering issue.


Right now, the Sony TV isn't connected to any other device, so apps are all I can use.


At some point, I might have it connected to a Tivo. I don't want to get a Tivo Mini because that would always use one of the tuners on my Tivo downstairs, because the Tivo Mini doesn't allow for dynamic tuner allocation when used with a Tivo Premiere XL.



I'd rather just get a separate Tivo, than lose a tuner. There are times when I do use all 4 tuners to record.



But, for right now, since my Sony TV is so new (installed for 12 days), I'm trying to figure out any settings or adjustments I can make, to make it as enjoyable as possible. Or, to see if there's anything wrong.
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Thanks. At least that seems to be a reasonable explanation, that it could be the app on that platform (Android TV). And it could be a buffering issue.


Right now, the Sony TV isn't connected to any other device, so apps are all I can use.


At some point, I might have it connected to a Tivo. I don't want to get a Tivo Mini because that would always use one of the tuners on my Tivo downstairs, because the Tivo Mini doesn't allow for dynamic tuner allocation when used with a Tivo Premiere XL.



I'd rather just get a separate Tivo, than lose a tuner. There are times when I do use all 4 tuners to record.



But, for right now, since my Sony TV is so new (installed for 12 days), I'm trying to figure out any settings or adjustments I can make, to make it as enjoyable as possible. Or, to see if there's anything wrong.
I would say physical media would be the better way to confirm the tv is working as intended. Streaming apps have too many potential quirks. You could load up some media on a usb or external hard drive and play content that way. The built in video player app plays just about anything including mkv files. That way if there are issues you can rule out network inconsistencies and app developer issues.

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