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The black levels are the x900e's weakest point in PQ? Then something is off with your settings then because I watch alot of movies in the dark and the black levels are the 900e's strong point. In my opinion the 900's black levels only get beaten by OLED. As for bias lighting. It's to distracting for me that's why I removed mine.
I would say that your experience with other tvs is probably limited then. I have the 940d and 940e and both of them had superior black levels. The 900e is pretty good, but there are other sets with much better black levels that aren't OLED...just sayin lol. But the 900e is probably the best performance to value tv out there.

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Apologies if this has already been asked repeatedly.

I have a Sony XBR-49X900E TV that I picked up to put in an exercise room for watching over-the-air TV (antenna). To improve sound quality, I connected the TV to a Polk Audio MagniFi Mini sound bar but this has introduced a lip sync error. This error occurs on both HDMI ARC and the optical connection. Using TV speakers or headphones there is no lip sync issue.

Any idea what the story is here? Is it a known problem and I'm just out of luck, or is there some work-around? Could it be an issue with the sound bar, i.e. is anyone using this TV with another sound bar that doesn't have this issue?

It's pretty surprising that this would occur and I hope it's just a learning curve issue on my part.
Go into the main settings menu, from the home screen. Go to audio and turn off av sync. You may need to power cycle the tv and sound bar to reset them but this should fix your lip sync issues. Also, make sure you set the tv speakers to 0 and the sound to sound system and not tv speakers. I constantly had lip sync issues until i turned off av sync. I never got arc to work correctly, only optical.

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Go into the main settings menu, from the home screen. Go to audio and turn off av sync. You may need to power cycle the tv and sound bar to reset them but this should fix your lip sync issues. Also, make sure you set the tv speakers to 0 and the sound to sound system and not tv speakers. I constantly had lip sync issues until i turned off av sync. I never got arc to work correctly, only optical.
Just gave this a try using optical and av sync = off. Still have lip sync issues.

The only thing that has worked so far is running out of the 3.5mm stereo jack into an adapter to RCA, then into an old integrated amp. But connecting this way isn't an option on the Polk gear.

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Just gave this a try using optical and av sync = off. Still have lip sync issues.

The only thing that has worked so far is running out of the 3.5mm stereo jack into an adapter to RCA, then into an old integrated amp. But connecting this way isn't an option on the Polk gear.

Any other ideas would be welcome.
Make sure you do a full power cycle on the tv first. Hold the power button on the remote until the tv does a full reboot. Usually have to hold the power button for 5 to 10 seconds or so. Then, unplug the sound bar from the wall and hold down the power button for about 10 seconds. This will fully reboot the computer inside. Let me know if it's better after that.

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Make sure you do a full power cycle on the tv first. Hold the power button on the remote until the tv does a full reboot. Usually have to hold the power button for 5 to 10 seconds or so. Then, unplug the sound bar from the wall and hold down the power button for about 10 seconds. This will fully reboot the computer inside. Let me know if it's better after that.
Actually, when I tried this I unplugged the TV and sound bar for 20 seconds. Seems like that ought to force the reboot.

EDIT: I made the config changes, powered down normally, then unplugged the TV and sound bar for 20 seconds.

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Actually, when I tried this I unplugged the TV and sound bar for 20 seconds. Seems like that ought to force the reboot.

EDIT: I made the config changes, powered down normally, then unplugged the TV and sound bar for 20 seconds.
Still no luck huh? Sucks.

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I would say that your experience with other tvs is probably limited then. I have the 940d and 940e and both of them had superior black levels. The 900e is pretty good, but there are other sets with much better black levels that aren't OLED...just sayin lol. But the 900e is probably the best performance to value tv out there.
After spending the weekend laying on my couch watching TV, I think the 900F has much better black levels then the 900E. I wonder how much of that has to do with Dolby Vision on my AppleTV.
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Yeah. I'll probably punt and just use the headphone out. Crazy way to make a TV.
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That sounds like an issue with the soundbar to me. I don't have the same issues...

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That sounds like an issue with the soundbar to me. I don't have the same issues...
That's good to know. I've been tempted to hook this TV up to my home theater to rule out a TV issue but wow, that is such an extraordinary PITA to accomplish that it isn't likely.

Which sound bar do you use? Maybe the easy solution is to get something that is known to work... holding onto the receipt in case a return is necessary.

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That's good to know. I've been tempted to hook this TV up to my home theater to rule out a TV issue but wow, that is such an extraordinary PITA to accomplish that it isn't likely.

Which sound bar do you use? Maybe the easy solution is to get something that is known to work... holding onto the receipt in case a return is necessary.
I have a Vizio SB 4551. https://smile.amazon.com/VIZIO-SB455...s=vizio+sb4551

Not the best thing ever made but it's pretty good. The satelite speakers are a little weak, but the subwoofer fits under the couch and it ROCKS! Feeling the whole couch vibrate whenever the bass kicks in really adds to the movie experience.
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After spending the weekend laying on my couch watching TV, I think the 900F has much better black levels then the 900E. I wonder how much of that has to do with Dolby Vision on my AppleTV.
Are you able to restrict DV on the ATV 4K or the 900F? In other words, can you force either to only use HDR, and try it both ways with the same movie?
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After spending the weekend laying on my couch watching TV, I think the 900F has much better black levels then the 900E. I wonder how much of that has to do with Dolby Vision on my AppleTV.
There's a lot of video and measurements about black level comparison. Pretty all the same. 900F is just a bit better 'cause of +15 zones.
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I have the 75" 900E. I was just wondering if anyone has the Oppo 203 hooked up with the 900e and what some of your video settings on the Oppo are especially the output resolution and custom resolution.
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I have the 75" 900E. I was just wondering if anyone has the Oppo 203 hooked up with the 900e and what some of your video settings on the Oppo are especially the output resolution and custom resolution.
I don't have the Oppo 203, but you should always let the tv handle the upscailing and leave any external media device on native resolution. Don't let the blu ray player do anything to the resolution, let the tv do it.
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I would say that your experience with other tvs is probably limited then. I have the 940d and 940e and both of them had superior black levels. The 900e is pretty good, but there are other sets with much better black levels that aren't OLED...just sayin lol. But the 900e is probably the best performance to value tv out there.

My experience with other tv's is not limited being that I have owned several tv's over the year's and some of those tv's, mostly Sony, were top of the line model's. From what I've seen and experienced so far with my 900e I stand by my comment's. But it's just my opinion. Does it have OLED black level's? No. But let's be honest not many tv's reach OLED black level's if any. The 940d and 940e are great tv's but for the price that's to be expected from a company like Sony.
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My experience with other tv's is not limited being that I have owned several tv's over the year's and some of those tv's, mostly Sony, were top of the line model's. From what I've seen and experienced so far with my 900e I stand by my comment's. But it's just my opinion. Does it have OLED black level's? No. But let's be honest not many tv's reach OLED black level's if any. The 940d and 940e are great tv's but for the price that's to be expected from a company like Sony.
I agree with you and was just giving you a hard time. 900e isn't the best of the best, but the price to value ratio is probably the best.
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I have the 75" 900E. I was just wondering if anyone has the Oppo 203 hooked up with the 900e and what some of your video settings on the Oppo are especially the output resolution and custom resolution.


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I agree with you and was just giving you a hard time. 900e isn't the best of the best, but the price to value ratio is probably the best.

It's all good Josh. No the 900e may not be the best of the best but for me it come's pretty darn close. I had a chance to look at all the 2018 tv's and none of them impressed me one bit. I have to be honest if I had not bought my 900e in January then I would have stuck with my Sony 55inch W900A 1080p tv with what I see in today's 2018 tv's. But I wanted to go 4K/HDR and with all the review's I read and seeing it in person the x900e was the tv for me. And I dont regret it one bit and knock on wood it last's for a few years because I'm done buying tv's. When the time come's I'll go full out Projection system with my x900e as a backup. But that wont be for a few years. Hell who know's? By then we may have holgram tv's!! LOL
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It's all good Josh. No the 900e may not be the best of the best but for me it come's pretty darn close. I had a chance to look at all the 2018 tv's and none of them impressed me one bit. I have to be honest if I had not bought my 900e in January then I would have stuck with my Sony 55inch W900A 1080p tv with what I see in today's 2018 tv's. But I wanted to go 4K/HDR and with all the review's I read and seeing it in person the x900e was the tv for me. And I dont regret it one bit and knock on wood it last's for a few years because I'm done buying tv's. When the time come's I'll go full out Projection system with my x900e as a backup. But that wont be for a few years. Hell who know's? By then we may have holgram tv's!! LOL
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The black levels are the x900e's weakest point in PQ? Then something is off with your settings then because I watch alot of movies in the dark and the black levels are the 900e's strong point.
Depends on what do you compare with. I have Philips PUS8102. TV with some flaws and problems but it has real good blacks in total darkness. When you watch Sony right after Philips it is very obvious.
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Make sure you do a full power cycle on the tv first. Hold the power button on the remote until the tv does a full reboot. Usually have to hold the power button for 5 to 10 seconds or so. Then, unplug the sound bar from the wall and hold down the power button for about 10 seconds. This will fully reboot the computer inside. Let me know if it's better after that.
I addressed this issue with ARC by turning off an audio setting called something like ClearAudio+. Hope this helps.

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I addressed this by turning off an audio setting called something like Audio+. Hope this helps.
You're right, clear audio or something. I basically shut off any audio "enhancements" the tv was doing since I don't use the tv speakers, and turned off AV sync and it cleared up lip sync issues. I also thought the most recent firmware update said somewhere it improved lip sync issues. I may be wrong though.

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Just like Joshua said about letting the TV do the upscaling. Since the TV already upscales the singnal coming in, especially 1080p Blu Rays since that is majority of what I watch. What do you have output resolution set to and custom resolution to? I'm pretty sure those two settings are for that. And for HDR settings. What do you have the target luminnace set to?
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9/11/2018 Firmware

Haven't seen too much here on the most recent update to the x900e firmware.
  • Has anyone encountered any problems?
  • Does anyone know more about what the update does than what's posted on Sony's website?
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Whelp, it's either Xfinity, Sony or Android. Can't get Xfinity Stream on the 900e. Anyone have a workaround or has this been discussed and I can't find it? I can't believe I expected the app to be available to Android TV.

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Haven't seen too much here on the most recent update to the x900e firmware.
  • Has anyone encountered any problems?
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Looking forward to your responses.
Mine is updating now. Curious if this is the same as the 930e update. Apparently it as higher brightness, based on what some 930e owners say
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Whelp, it's either Xfinity, Sony or Android. Can't get Xfinity Stream on the 900e. Anyone have a workaround or has this been discussed and I can't find it? I can't believe I expected the app to be available to Android TV.
It’s on Roku mainly and they just introduced it to Samsung TVs
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Question Extended Warranty on Refurb?

Hi all. I just purchased a Certified Refurbished 75x900e on Amazon. Does anyone know if this qualifies for an extended Warranty? If so, which warranties are the best? TIA
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After spending the weekend laying on my couch watching TV, I think the 900F has much better black levels then the 900E. I wonder how much of that has to do with Dolby Vision on my AppleTV.
My guess is it's the greater number of local dimming zones on the 900F. From what I've seen and read, Dolby Vision mostly helps make dark scenes brighter without losing detail. Apparently, HDR10 has a tendency to render dark scenes darker than creators intended. This is why a lot of directors, like James Cameron, are so gung ho about Dolby Vision.

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