Originally Posted by TommyDeVito
I don't get why Airplay on a TV is such a big deal at all. A 4k ATV is $179. You can then Airplay to your hearts desire with a phone, Ipad, macbook, whatever. It's silly to me, to have the panel manus put all this software, apps, and bs into the tv, when most people are going to just going to buy some kind of streaming box anyhow. To me or imo, Sony, Samsung, LG, etc, should focus on PQ and make the TV's dumb. It would would immediately drop the price on the panels whether LCD, QLED, OLED, etc much more than what an ATV, ROKU or whatever else cost. Then maybe the tv companies could put more money and effort into making solid panels with pq, black levels, etc. If the TV's were dumb then software updates would be much less of a concern. I run 4 tv's in the household. I have to at least be aware of the software rev on the TV, the UHD player, the soundbar or AVR, the ATV for each setup. I look at my router for connected devices and it's just silly. Reminds me of OEM navigation in a vehicle. Having to update that every year and pay the manu their fee for doing so. All this streaming/app bs is just completely out of hand. What are there now, well over 20 or more main streaming services? Netflix, Amazon, Playstation Vue, DirecTV now, VUDU, Hulu, HBO Now, Showtime app, I mean it's probably 3 dozen now or something. Who has time to keep up with all that? I watch X series on netflix, I watch Y series on Amazon Prime, I watch this other series on Hulu, then I have HBO, SHO, Starz apps. I mean that sounds like a headache and why I'm still running satellite service and using Netflix Blu Ray/mail service. I tried a few streaming services and immediately wished my Tv's were completely dumb. If I chose to stream everything and cancel what I use now, I'd definitely use the ATV for everything.
And by "most people" you mean everyone on here? Most people have a TV, a cable box, and a DVD/Blu-Ray player. They don't have a seperate AV system, a game conosle or two, a Chrome cast, Mibox, or Apple Device. They want ONE device, not a bevy of cables running to multiple systems, that then have to coordinate. I got my mother an Xbox to do video calls with her grandchildren. I wrote out detailed instructions for how to start a call. She never used it, and six months later I took the Xbox back. Want to watch cable? Need the TV and cable box on. A DVD? Change imputs, switch to the DVD player. Stream Netflix? Back to the TV. Play a video game? Guess I'm switching to ANOTHER device. Oh, I want to watch that movie I bought from Apple. Now on to another device. If Xfinity managed to get 4K streaming in their X1 boxes, and add Amazon Prime to it as well, I'd probably stay on that box all the time, since they have incorporated Netflix in their search for programing. I don't mind switching around, and I disagree that "most people" want to do all the coordination. Most people want to find their content in ONE place. I wish I waited for the 2018 model with built in Atmos decoding, so I could just use the TV and AVR for Netflix streaming, versus having to use my Xbox. Doesn't bother me, but explaining it to my girlfriend isn't worth the time and effort to tell her she's going to get better sound when using the Xbox.
And how often do you think people pay to update the Nav on their cars? If it's not a free upgrade, "most people" won't bother unless they live somewhere that's recently been built and doesn't show on the maps in their car. I only upgraded from 2016 to 2019 on my car nav because someone on eBay was selling the SD cards for $40, versus the >$100 that the dealership wanted. Even then, because my factory car stero doesn't have AirPlay/Android Auto did I bother.