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post #9061 of 9245 Old 06-12-2019, 09:42 AM
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Received the X940E yesterday. Kids were super excited to watching something so I hooked it up quick to the ATV4K and used the Rtings settings to start out. Picture looks great with just those basic adjustments.

Definitely need to upgrade my cables according to the TV and Apple so I ordered the slimline certified Monoprice ones which will be here Saturday and then will upgrade our Netflix account from the 4K to the super duper one.

Also, need to fire up some UHD discs and DV once the cables are here, should be Saturday.

So far, impressed. But, I know it can be better!

How much image improvement is professional calibration over tinkering? 10%? 20%? 50%?

Just wondering if people dropped the extra coin and were very happy or just thought it was a slight improvement?

If you tried the the Rtings settings without entering those 10 point white balance then I suggest you do as it made a big difference on my set. I'm totally happy with the Rtings settings, but may buy Calman Home for Sony just to see if the picture can be improved.
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Trying to read through 300+ pages as that sub $2k price is amazing. Anyone ran a x950G and x940e 75” know how they compare? I know the 950 is more a 900f but Its nice that it has 4 hdmi ports that are full 2.0 instead of just 2 along with the better X1. Really tempted to replace my 65” B6 OLED thats showing burn in from TV logos on both lower corners.

I have both (950g is a 55" however, so no x wide layer) and there is no comparison. The 950G is not a replacement for the 940E. The 940E is 90+% of an OLED. PQ, blacks, contrast ratio, all much better on the 940E compared to the 950G. The 940E blacks are truly stunning. Black bars completely disappear. But you need to ask yourself if you are going to use the set in a dark room or a room with a lot of light.
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Can't believe this price is still going. I doubt it'll ever be cheaper. They're really only sold at this price by one retailer and I'm sure they're just clearing out stock.

I'm happy with my 65Z9F but I wish these would hurry up and sell out because, at this price, I am tempted to return my Z9F and order one of these. I paid less for my Z9F though, so I'm constantly back and forth between which model I'd rather have for the $$. If I didn't game a lot or desire the absolute best in upscaling, I would be all over the X940E @ $2000.

I believe the X940E is a fantastic set, but anyone dismissing the power of the X1U over the X1E probably hasn't compared them side by side. It does make a difference, even with 4K content.

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^great price for sure, but Ill take a larger set with better CR, than a smaller one with a little better processing...but thats just me.
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[QUOTE = I believe the X940E is a fantastic set, but anyone dismissing the power of the X1U over the X1E probably hasn't compared them side by side. It does make a difference, even with 4K content.[/QUOTE]
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Have you compared side by side any Sony sets using the X1 Extreme processor vs. the X1 Ultimate processor using test material and equipment ?

And if not, where can we find such comparison ?

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If you tried the the Rtings settings without entering those 10 point white balance then I suggest you do as it made a big difference on my set. I'm totally happy with the Rtings settings, but may buy Calman Home for Sony just to see if the picture can be improved.
I'll be trying those this weekend, thanks for the suggestion.

Dolby Vision from Netflix looks pretty slick on the 940. However, there's a bit of what I think is the SOE happening. Might have to play with a few settings on that as well or is not recommended to adjust the DV mode on the 940?

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^great price for sure, but Ill take a larger set with better CR, than a smaller one with a little better processing...but thats just me.
If they were the same price, I would totally agree.

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Have you compared side by side any Sony sets using the X1 Extreme processor vs. the X1 Ultimate processor using test material and equipment ?

And if not, where can we find such comparison ?
I'm not sure what test equipment other that the human eye would be able to notate the differences because they're subtle and with respect to things such as sharpness on moving objects, etc. for example. But when viewing the SONY test reel demos @ the same settings on the Z9F (X1U) vs. the X900F (X1E), yes a difference could clearly be seen. Was it huge? No. But it was obvious enough to notice without trying very hard to find it. Is it something the average Joe would notice with 4K content? Probably not. But it was there just the same as a contrast ratio difference is. And while I haven't personally compared the upscaling differences between the X1U and X1E, I bet they're absolutely noticeable with less than 1080p content. I realize this doesn't matter to all. Every set is different and each person must decide what matters the most to them. Again, I think this X940E is one of the best sets out there, and until they sell out, it'll be tempting me! The only issue that scares me is the motion because I game a lot with first person shooters, but TBH, I think that issue is way over-blown in the same way that the lack of contrast on the Z9F is. Is it scientifically proven to be there? Yes. Is it noticeable in real life use? It depends.

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So, if i understand correctly, you viewed Sony test reel demos separately (not side by side) on the Z9F vs. the X900F and your eyesight noticed a "difference that could be clearly seen" between these two video processing chips ?

Wow, you eyesight is truly capable of amazing performance considering you viewed these sets separately !

Congratulations, i only wish my eyesight could match such performance.
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lol. Thanks, I guess?

The sets were side-by-side.

But if you think the X1U offers no improvement over the X1E then that's fine with me. Just trying to offer my experiences for other potential buyers.
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^the question is, do you prefer slightly better processing over CR...I'll take CR all day, and the 940e delivers in spades.
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Still pondering moving to this set given the closeout price but still concerned about gaming. I am not a hardcore gamer but do play fps games. Can anyone give some feedback on their results? I have owned a 930e and had zero issues. Thanks in advance

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I'll be trying those this weekend, thanks for the suggestion.

Dolby Vision from Netflix looks pretty slick on the 940. However, there's a bit of what I think is the SOE happening. Might have to play with a few settings on that as well or is not recommended to adjust the DV mode on the 940?

Go into the Motion section of Advanced Settings. Change to Custom then play with the Smoothness and Clearness settings. I think the consensus is Smoothness: 3 and Clearness: 0/Min.
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Go into the Motion section of Advanced Settings. Change to Custom then play with the Smoothness and Clearness settings. I think the consensus is Smoothness: 3 and Clearness: 0/Min.
Thank you, I'll give that a try tonight.

Watched the DV of Aquaman last night and it was outstanding! I'm very impressed with the X940E!

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Picked up a new Sony 940E.

I'm pleased overall with the set and it's build quality, but noticed a few odd things.

Please let me know if these are known issues and if / how they can be fixed.

1. When content on the screen is solid white (e.g. a fade to white transition in a movie or TV commercial), I can see a faint pinkish thin horizontal discoloration band near the top of the screen. This is when using the "Cinema Home" mode. This discoloration can become less visible if I change to another picture mode. Does this indicate professional calibration is needed or is this a defect?
2. I have an AT&T Uverse set top box. The Sony 940E remote / IR blaster controlled the channels just fine. Then the TV installed a software update from Sony. The channel functions on the Sony remote controlling the set top box then became intermittent. Only have rebooting the Sony TV does the channel function controlling the AT&T set top box start working again. Anyone experienced this and is there a fix?
3. Corners are slightly darker. After reading up, this seems to be a trade of FALD technology in general. Is there anything that can be done to mitigate it or is it just par for the course?
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Picked up a new Sony 940E.

I'm pleased overall with the set and it's build quality, but noticed a few odd things.

Please let me know if these are known issues and if / how they can be fixed.

1. When content on the screen is solid white (e.g. a fade to white transition in a movie or TV commercial), I can see a faint pinkish thin horizontal discoloration band near the top of the screen. This is when using the "Cinema Home" mode. This discoloration can become less visible if I change to another picture mode. Does this indicate professional calibration is needed or is this a defect?
2. I have an AT&T Uverse set top box. The Sony 940E remote / IR blaster controlled the channels just fine. Then the TV installed a software update from Sony. The channel functions on the Sony remote controlling the set top box then became intermittent. Only have rebooting the Sony TV does the channel function controlling the AT&T set top box start working again. Anyone experienced this and is there a fix?
3. Corners are slightly darker. After reading up, this seems to be a trade of FALD technology in general. Is there anything that can be done to mitigate it or is it just par for the course?

1 - Might be a defect, but then it could be something that goes away after a factory reset...(there's instructions on how to do a full reset in this thread)
2 - Do a factory reset after you install an update. It won't change the software version or what you just installed but it will remove any picture customization's you made in settings.
3 - Normal

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I watched the US women's soccer game against Chile in 4K this morning. It was the first time I've tried (and had it work) a 4K broadcast from Xfinity on the 940E. The picture was rich, bright and detailed. There were problems to be sure, a few glitches here and there but nothing to ruin my enjoyment. At halftime they went to a static screen, no adds or talking heads until the game resumed. It was nice to see the 940E deliver such an impressive picture.
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Finally pulled the trigger on the 940e. Couldnt justify twice the price for the Z9D. Anyway, is the RMF-TX600U remote on the newest 950g models compatible with the 940e. It looks so much more premium.

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[QUOTE=fixmysony;58189492]Picked up a new Sony 940E.

I'm pleased overall with the set and it's build quality, but noticed a few odd things.

Please let me know if these are known issues and if / how they can be fixed.

1. When content on the screen is solid white (e.g. a fade to white transition in a movie or TV commercial), I can see a faint pinkish thin horizontal discoloration band near the top of the screen. This is when using the "Cinema Home" mode. This discoloration can become less visible if I change to another picture mode. Does this indicate professional calibration is needed or is this a defect?

1. color temperature is too warm. set to neutral and this should go away.
3. dark corners are normal but will not be apparent in all colors, mostly white and even then, not all the time. A minor distraction.
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I've very tempted to get the Sony 75" 940E with the recent price drop and it is the same price as the Samsung 65" Q9FN, but can anyone compare the two? is the PQ the same? Is one better than the other? I have the Q9FN, but I think the panel is bad so I'm returning it and now with the 940E price drop to the same as the Q9FN, i'm tempted to go with the 940E. Has anyone seen both, been able to compare them, know which is better in terms of HDR, DV, PQ?? Thanks guys!
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The Q9 is a newer set and has snappier menus, but with ads and potential malware. Speaking of DV, the Q9 doesn't have it. It does have some advantages such as better input lag, so gamers might prefer it. It really depends on what you're looking for in a TV. They're pretty comparable sets, so you'd have to get into the nitty-gritty details to know which is best for you. If it was me? I'd go with the Sony. Accurate colours, excellent motion, upscaling should be about the same between the two. Unless your a pro gamer or DV is a must have, I don't think you can go wrong with either. They're both top-tier choices.

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Received my 940e yesterday. First new TV since 2007 (52W3000).
I only will use it for TV and Movies via Plex.
Im overwhelmed by the settings. Could anyone offer any immediate default setting changes?
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Received my 940e yesterday. First new TV since 2007 (52W3000).
I only will use it for TV and Movies via Plex.
Im overwhelmed by the settings. Could anyone offer any immediate default setting changes?

rtings. Change to their settings for a first setup. Then change to your own preference. After you have set the rtings setting the only thing you'll need to adjust is brightness for your room. My 940 is in a dark room so brightness remains at 4.

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I only will use it for TV and Movies via Plex.
Im overwhelmed by the settings. Could anyone offer any immediate default setting changes?
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rtings. Change to their settings for a first setup. Then change to your own preference. After you have set the rtings setting the only thing you'll need to adjust is brightness for your room. My 940 is in a dark room so brightness remains at 4.
A caveat to your brightness setting will be the Clearness control in the motion settings. Anything above "minimum" engages black frame insertion (BFI). I personally have my clearness setting at "1". I like that setting with "Smoothness" at 3. Most here use Smoothness 3 and Clearness at Min or 1. Once you engage 1 or higher you need to compensate by increasing your brightness setting to compensate for the darker picture as a result of BFI.
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A caveat to your brightness setting will be the Clearness control in the motion settings. Anything above "minimum" engages black frame insertion (BFI). I personally have my clearness setting at "1". I like that setting with "Smoothness" at 3. Most here use Smoothness 3 and Clearness at Min or 1. Once you engage 1 or higher you need to compensate by increasing your brightness setting to compensate for the darker picture as a result of BFI.
Great tip! I never knew this.
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Just remember that you can't use CLEARNESS with HDR because the brightness is set to max by default. CLEARNESS will darken the screen. Your DVD player may let you increase the brightness of HDR independently of content.
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940E Rate of DSE PANELS

Does anyone know if the X940e has a high % of its panels arriving with DSE? I am not speaking of the darkened corners,, I know almost
all sony leds have that, but I meant as far as whats the chances of it arrving with more severe uniformity issues? I have read that it is
an issue with the 940e I just don;t like how likely it is?

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