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@ggw2000 : makes sense what you're saying, angle of the panel could make a drastic difference.

However, it all depends on the height of the TV and how far away the main viewing position is. Both my 940Es are hanging on the wall, I'd say about 16-17 cm (about 42 inches) from the floor, measured from the bottom of TV frame. I slightly tilt the panel towards the main viewing position, and that minimizes any light reflections and ensures I'm looking straight on.
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Have you tried the built in Kodi app? That's what I use to stream all my ripped content from a networked attached storage. The video app is terrible IMO.

Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll try this. I'd prefer this kind of solution. I've bought android boxes in the past (KDlinks A300), and they're not bad, but I find they got outdated pretty quick.



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@ggw2000 : makes sense what you're saying, angle of the panel could make a drastic difference.

However, it all depends on the height of the TV and how far away the main viewing position is. Both my 940Es are hanging on the wall, I'd say about 16-17 cm (about 42 inches) from the floor, measured from the bottom of TV frame. I slightly tilt the panel towards the main viewing position, and that minimizes any light reflections and ensures I'm looking straight on.
I'm about 10' from TV. Also about level with the middle of the screen as I built my stand to be that way .
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With the latest update came a long laundry list agreement to sign off on. I was surprised to see that the remote control microphone can be activated so that it is always "listening". Who in the world would want that? I sometimes think my cell phone is doing it.
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Since buying my 940E in March/18 it always had quite a bit of lean back to it. Way more than it should or necessary. Today I decided to make 2 pads for under the back two feet to correct the problem. I started with two 3/8" pieces but that brought it to a little more than past straight. Although it was still stable I decided to make a couple more at 1/4". That worked as it just very slightly leans back from straight..
I swear that the PQ looks even better now [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]... Placebo i'm sure but whatever works..
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Thats very worrisome to me. My 940e stands perfectly straight up. Zero lean. Maybe you should consider looking over the stand installation. Its a very heavy TV, any lean could place a lot of unnecessary stress on the build.
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Mine leans back on top too but I assume its to keep the weight towards the rear, if it was vertical it would be easier to tip forward. Otherwise it has to be quite a bit of force to push it off the center of gravity and then up and over the angled feet. I would be scared to make it level.
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Watching 4k movies in hdr from my samsung player seem dim. Is there a setting I dont realize needs set? Brightness is maxed, local dimming high, all motion settings off, and all that, watching on cinema home, I have Eco turned off but maybe I’m missing something?


For HDR and Dolby vision, brightness need to be at max, local diming: medium, xtended dynamic range: high. Smoothness: Max, clear:min. Recommendation from Calman calibration guide.


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For HDR and Dolby vision, brightness need to be at max, local diming: medium, xtended dynamic range: high. Smoothness: Max, clear:min. Recommendation from Calman calibration guide.


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Turns out its just my 4k version of Arrival. I havent watched it in a while and the whole movie is darker. Mad Max can get blinding bright so its not the TV

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Hello everyone!

There’s been quite a few major firmware updates released since I personally chose user @10k calibration settings. I was just wondering, if after all these firmware updates, is 10k ‘s settings still current/valid? Is there a clear choice on what settings are now preferred?

Thank you so much!!
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Hello everyone!

There’s been quite a few major firmware updates released since I personally chose user @10k calibration settings. I was just wondering, if after all these firmware updates, is 10k ‘s settings still current/valid? Is there a clear choice on what settings are now preferred?

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10k settings are for a z9D and its actually a different panel than the x940E. You can use any settings from anyone other than color correction, those vary from screen to screen and it may hurt your grey scale more than help.

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I have found very good results playing with Reality Creation and Black level. Reality Creation around 70-80 really makes the image look great and Black Level at 48 seems to really enhance the blacks the TV can produce.

On the Interstellar Blu-ray on a all star field picture space 50 is to high of a setting and is very dark greyish black, 47 really is black but starts crush blacks, 48 is best of both worlds shadow detail and retains most shadow detail. 50 shows too much shadow detail and blacks are not black enough.

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Soooo, I was finally able to pick up my 940E from my friend in Bufallo. Crossing the Border back into Canada was smooth and, for some reason, I was only charged half the amount I was supposed to pay even though I provided full disclosure via the printed invoice. You guys weren't kidding; this TV is a beast both in terms of size and weight. You really need at least two people to move, unpack and set up this unit. After a quick calibration (I used my i1Display 3 pro colorimeter and Chromapure software to do a 10 point greyscale) I ended up with low 0.8 DE average. Based on before and after measurements, the 940E does not need extensive adjustments to get color and gamma squared away, but if you have the tools to make those final little tweaks, it is well worth the effort.

So far, I have sampled a variety of material and this TV does NOT disappoint!!!. Upscaled 1080P bluray and even DVDs look amazing. However, where the 940E really shines is with well authored 4k/HDR discs. This TV was made for HDR. I was afraid that, being LED/LCD, the black levels would be too much of a weakness but unless you have a OLED TV right next to it, I have to say the blacks are more than acceptable and even --impressive. The ONE area that I have found to be noticeably weak is --motion. I find that it is more noticeable in streaming content and significantly less of a problem with watching good ole blu ray and 4K discs.

Overall, the 940E is a wickedly good set and easily the best I have ever owned. At the price for which it is currently available I am surprised there are any left. Anyone still on the fence about picking up one of these last remaining samples should jump at it. At even twice the current price, I would still consider it a bargain.
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Soooo, I was finally able to pick up my 940E from my friend in Bufallo. Crossing the Border back into Canada was smooth and, for some reason, I was only charged half the amount I was supposed to pay even though I provided full disclosure via the printed invoice. You guys weren't kidding; this TV is a beast both in terms of size and weight. You really need at least two people to move, unpack and set up this unit. After a quick calibration (I used my i1Display 3 pro colorimeter and Chromapure software to do a 10 point greyscale) I ended up with low 0.8 DE average. Based on before and after measurements, the 940E does not need extensive adjustments to get color and gamma squared away, but if you have the tools to make those final little tweaks, it is well worth the effort.

So far, I have sampled a variety of material and this TV does NOT disappoint!!!. Upscaled 1080P bluray and even DVDs look amazing. However, where the 940E really shines is with well authored 4k/HDR discs. This TV was made for HDR. I was afraid that, being LED/LCD, the black levels would be too much of a weakness but unless you have a OLED TV right next to it, I have to say the blacks are more than acceptable and even --impressive. The ONE area that I have found to be noticeably weak is --motion. I find that it is more noticeable in streaming content and significantly less of a problem with watching good ole blu ray and 4K discs.

Overall, the 940E is a wickedly good set and easily the best I have ever owned. At the price for which it is currently available I am surprised there are any left. Anyone still on the fence about picking up one of these last remaining samples should jump at it. At even twice the current price, I would still consider it a bargain.
What are you using for motion settings?
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Will confirm when I get home, but as of last night I think I started using Motionflow: Custom, Clearness: 0, and Cinemotion: Off.
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What did you settle on with the color and grayscale controls? Care to post your settings?

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I have found very good results playing with Reality Creation and Black level. Reality Creation around 70-80 really makes the image look great and Black Level at 48 seems to really enhance the blacks the TV can produce.

On the Interstellar Blu-ray on a all star field picture space 50 is to high of a setting and is very dark greyish black, 47 really is black but starts crush blacks, 48 is best of both worlds shadow detail and retains most shadow detail. 50 shows too much shadow detail and blacks are not black enough.
I could be wrong but Interstellar is not a good movie to adjust settings to. Especially the black level. This movie is known for having elevated blacks (mastered incorrectly). Or actually could be on purpose. Only Nolan knows. But adjusting your settings to this movie could throw off the picture in other movies...

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Will confirm when I get home, but as of last night I think I started using Motionflow: Custom, Clearness: 0, and Cinemotion: Off.
Try: Custom/ Smoothness 3/ Clearness Min....
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Try: Custom/ Smoothness 3/ Clearness Min....
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I have found very good results playing with Reality Creation and Black level. Reality Creation around 70-80 really makes the image look great and Black Level at 48 seems to really enhance the blacks the TV can produce.

On the Interstellar Blu-ray on a all star field picture space 50 is to high of a setting and is very dark greyish black, 47 really is black but starts crush blacks, 48 is best of both worlds shadow detail and retains most shadow detail. 50 shows too much shadow detail and blacks are not black enough.
I could be wrong but Interstellar is not a good movie to adjust settings to. Especially the black level. This movie is known for having elevated blacks (mastered incorrectly). Or actually could be on purpose. Only Nolan knows. But adjusting your settings to this movie could throw off the picture in other movies...
I was unaware of this, however other space things I have watched like the free copy of Passangers I got with the play store also looked better at 48 over 50 as did the UHD of Pacific Rim. Do you know of a good movie to adjust to? I don't have a test pattern DVD. I just know what my OLED shows vs my Sony at 50 and at 48 I have more shadow detail than my B6 (which crushes blacks anyway) and the black level is much closer to the OLED at 48.

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Sorry for multiple postings,

Rewatched the opening to Gravity Bluray. I use the scene where the camera is on George Clooney and then pans to earth. The camera then slowly pans over earth and back to George for motion. My LG is either soap opera or stutter fest. With my motion settings above it has very very slight stutter but anymore smoothness and I get soap opera and I’m fairly sensitive to it and dislike it. To me these are perfect settings.

For black level I check at the scene where Sandra Bullock is spinning away from the camera(16:29 time stamp). A second the camera adjusts and the stars in the gas field become elevated and stars get brighter. On OLED this is the one of the most amazing scenes an OLED can render in my opinion. On the X940e I paused it at this scene and went between black level at 50, 49, 48 and 47. I took my hand and covered the menu on screen so my eyes would adjust to the black level and again 48 seems the best mix of deeper blacks without losing details. I think at 50 it reveals a little to much shadow detail and makes space appear lighter and grayish. At 48 space is darker and black bars appear to be a little darker too. I feel this matches my OLED better as this scene doesn't have crushed blacks on the OLED.

This is all preference not reference but blacks seem better to me without loosing details.

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I was unaware of this, however other space things I have watched like the free copy of Passangers I got with the play store also looked better at 48 over 50 as did the UHD of Pacific Rim. Do you know of a good movie to adjust to? I don't have a test pattern DVD. I just know what my OLED shows vs my Sony at 50 and at 48 I have more shadow detail than my B6 (which crushes blacks anyway) and the black level is much closer to the OLED at 48.

Unfortunately, I do not. And I don't have a pattern disc as well. But it's like you said, it's preference over reference. I just remember a long time ago the Interstellar movie was a big issue in the Master HDR thread. A lot of people were commenting negatively on how Nolan mastered that movie. No biggie though. As long as you like what you're seeing, is all that matters! Enjoy my friend!!!

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Please help!


Thin vertical blue line appeared on the right side of my XBR75x940E.


I bought this thing from buydig.com in January 2017, so 1 year warranty is over.
The VISA i used to buy it with only covers its an additional 1 year? So that would mean Jan 2019, its already August so thats probably a no go as well im assuming.


Called a few repair shops in my area.


Without inspecting the TV, one shop told me over the phone that this was a Screen issue and it'll cost too much to fix (better off buying a new TV). He also mentioned this was a very common problem with this specific model.


another shop said it could be the screen or one of the boards inside and wanted to charge me $75 to open it up and inspect.



What are my options here. anything i haven't thought of with regards to the warranty? is it even worth it having it inspected to see if the problem is fixable?

really sucks. TV is barely 2.5 years old. was hoping this thing would last me at least 7 years
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in the troubleshooting guide, colored lines most likely defect is the panel. The secondary possible failures could be B*board, Tcon board or V By One FFC. but I would think if a board failed you would have blinking red lights on the front display. Can I ask if this TV is mounted on a wall or is it on a stand?
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When viewing a solid gray screen (the welcome screen of Amazon Prime Video), I can see image retention from a news logo from a station I watched earlier. If I turn the TV off for several hours, it looks like the ghost image goes away. Is this normal and has anyone suffered permanent screen burn in from cable news channel logos and ticker feeds?
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When viewing a solid gray screen (the welcome screen of Amazon Prime Video), I can see image retention from a news logo from a station I watched earlier. If I turn the TV off for several hours, it looks like the ghost image goes away. Is this normal and has anyone suffered permanent screen burn in from cable news channel logos and ticker feeds?
I have never seen this on my set. But then, I don't watch any news feeds with permanent junk on the screen. From what I've read in the past LCD displays can have short term retention, but unlike OLED it isn't permanent and does go away in a while.

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I have never seen this on my set. But then, I don't watch any news feeds with permanent junk on the screen. From what I've read in the past LCD displays can have short term retention, but unlike OLED it isn't permanent and does go away in a while.

That has been my experience, the image retention will go away. A few months ago I posted here with a similar question. My house sitter must have watched a lot of ESPN because I could see the ghostly logo on some screens after I returned home. I thought it was burn-in but someone here clued me in about image retention. I was very happy to learn the difference.
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