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Samsung MU Series UHD HDR LED-LCD TVs

The Samsung MU series offers UHD resolution and HDR capabilities for less than the flagship QLED lineup.

https://www.avsforum.com/samsung-mu-s...r-led-lcd-tvs/
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These will probably sell like crazy. People will see Samsung: 4K, HDR, 65", $1300
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These get pricey in the 8 and 9 series considering they don't incorporate quantum dots, and no information regarding wide color gamut.

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These get pricey in the 8 and 9 series considering they don't incorporate quantum dots, and no information regarding wide color gamut.
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/mu8000

MU8000 has WCG, not sure if it employs Quantum Dots or not, but it has one. The way I see these tvs is just replacements for the previous years with probably not much real world improvements:

MU6300/MU6500 = KU6300/KU6500 replacement; 60hz, no WCG, no local dimming
MU7000/MU7500 = KU7000/KU7500 replacement; 60hz, WCG, no local dimming
MU8000/MU8500 = KS8000/KS8500 replacement; 120hz, WCG, edge lit local dimming
MU9000 = KS9000 replacement; 120hz, WCG, edge lit local dimming...slightly better something over MU8xxx like the KS9xxx has over the KS8xxx (no real world improvement)

What's sad is the review of the MU8000 looks like they took a KS8000 and made it slightly worse...and are charging $2200 for the 65" while a KS8000 is only $1400-$1500, if you want something actually better than a KS8000 you'll probably have to jump up to the $4000 Q7F, which is MARGINALLY better
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For the unknowing buyer, they'll sell. But the sony 900e is better than all of them and priced much better too.
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MU8000 has WCG, not sure if it employs Quantum Dots or not...
According to Samsung, it does not; none of the MU series use quantum dots.
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According to Samsung, it does not; none of the MU series use quantum dots.
Agreed, Samsung pulled a real head scratcher this year, worse tv's at much higher prices. The moth-eye coating on the KS8000 is much better than what is on the MU8000 and the blacks looked better in the store. Best Buy just put the 55" KS8000's on sale at $999. That is a steal.
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The Samsung MU series offers UHD resolution and HDR capabilities for less than the flagship QLED lineup.

https://www.avsforum.com/samsung-mu-s...r-led-lcd-tvs/
M8000 is that supposed to be 85" or are they actually going with 82"?


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M8000 is that supposed to be 85" or are they actually going with 82"?


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The press release says 82".
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http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/mu8000

MU8000 has WCG, not sure if it employs Quantum Dots or not, but it has one. The way I see these tvs is just replacements for the previous years with probably not much real world improvements:

MU6300/MU6500 = KU6300/KU6500 replacement; 60hz, no WCG, no local dimming
MU7000/MU7500 = KU7000/KU7500 replacement; 60hz, WCG, no local dimming
MU8000/MU8500 = KS8000/KS8500 replacement; 120hz, WCG, edge lit local dimming
MU9000 = KS9000 replacement; 120hz, WCG, edge lit local dimming...slightly better something over MU8xxx like the KS9xxx has over the KS8xxx (no real world improvement)

What's sad is the review of the MU8000 looks like they took a KS8000 and made it slightly worse...and are charging $2200 for the 65" while a KS8000 is only $1400-$1500, if you want something actually better than a KS8000 you'll probably have to jump up to the $4000 Q7F, which is MARGINALLY better
I think that this is somewhat misleading. I haven't looked at specs for most of the 2017 models, but the MU8000 isn't comparable to a 2016 KS8000. The MU8000 has roughly twice the peak luminance of the KU7500, but still half the luminance of the KS8000. The short version: the KS8000 is a UHD Alliance Premium certified model, and the MU8000 is not, and will never be. You have to go to the Q series for the certification, but their prices are, er, impressive.
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Started seeing these at Costco recently. They are extremely similar to the KS8000 from last year but more of a Gunmetal look and the same style back used on the Q7 instead of the squishy ones used last year on the KS8000 To me it seams a lot like a rebadged KS8000/800D
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Started seeing these at Costco recently. They are extremely similar to the KS8000 from last year but more of a Gunmetal look and the same style back used on the Q7 instead of the squishy ones used last year on the KS8000 To me it seams a lot like a rebadged KS8000/800D
Chassis is almost identical, screen definitely is not identical on the MU8000.
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According to Samsung, it does not; none of the MU series use quantum dots.
Thanks for clarification of a key question.
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Chassis is almost identical, screen definitely is not identical on the MU8000.
So picture quality may not be as nice as KS8000, since apparently confirmed lack of quantum dots and no moth eye.
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Agreed, Samsung pulled a real head scratcher this year, worse tv's at much higher prices. The moth-eye coating on the KS8000 is much better than what is on the MU8000 and the blacks looked better in the store. Best Buy just put the 55" KS8000's on sale at $999. That is a steal.
Yes KS8000 seems better picture quality and better price than MU8000, and Q7 too pricey for no significant upgrade. Glad I got a 55KS8000 at the sale price. Best bang for buck, great TV.
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So picture quality may not be as nice as KS8000, since apparently confirmed lack of quantum dots and no moth eye.
I don't know if it's specifically tied to those, but the measurements done by Rtings show that it is clearly inferior in brightness and color gamut. It seems like the 900e is a better buy
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I think the MU8000 is more of a replacement for the JU7100 (2015 model) slot in the Samsung lineup, since in 2016 there was no 120 Hz panel option other than the quantum dot "premium" models.

Hopefully that means the MU8000 price drops will be aggressive.
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http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...tv-review/spec

A review of the 40" TV.. 700 bucks for 40" is too much. 500 would be better.
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The press release says 82".
According to a Samsung rep I know, it appears the 82" MU8000 has been canceled. Not sure how reliable that info is, but he showed me an updated 2017 model grid and there was no longer an 82 incher listed under the MU8000 sizes.

I saw the MU8500 next to last year's KU7500 playing Samsung's 4K loop, and they honestly looked about the same. The screen had the same or similar semigloss finish and the KU honestly seemed a tad bit brighter in highlight areas. The build quality did seem improved over the KS models and the annoying chrome bottom lip is a much nicer matte silver now.

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It appears the 2017 M-series are worse than the 2016 K-series
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I bought the 43" MU6300- it doesn't blow me away mainly due to the fact that I own a OLED, but as a PC monitor and occasional Netflix viewing, it has an excellent picture with better than expected blacks. 4K Netflix looks very good. HDR mode is not as effective as my OLED understandably, but adds some punch without looking overly boosted.

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http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/mu8000

MU8000 has WCG, not sure if it employs Quantum Dots or not, but it has one. The way I see these tvs is just replacements for the previous years with probably not much real world improvements:

MU6300/MU6500 = KU6300/KU6500 replacement; 60hz, no WCG, no local dimming
MU7000/MU7500 = KU7000/KU7500 replacement; 60hz, WCG, no local dimming
MU8000/MU8500 = KS8000/KS8500 replacement; 120hz, WCG, edge lit local dimming
MU9000 = KS9000 replacement; 120hz, WCG, edge lit local dimming...slightly better something over MU8xxx like the KS9xxx has over the KS8xxx (no real world improvement)

What's sad is the review of the MU8000 looks like they took a KS8000 and made it slightly worse...and are charging $2200 for the 65" while a KS8000 is only $1400-$1500, if you want something actually better than a KS8000 you'll probably have to jump up to the $4000 Q7F, which is MARGINALLY better
even the report from rtings says the ks9000 is better than the q7 in most categories, samsung looks like they sacrificed too much for more color
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I haven't been here in over 15 years...did some research as I am about to get a Samsung UN65KU6290 or 6300 and debating if it is worth it to pay the premium and go with the newest UN65MU6300? HDR seems improved and brightness but nothing substantial that I can detect
I'll be strictly watching cable TV, HD content/regular content and rarely Blu Ray
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I haven't been here in over 15 years...did some research as I am about to get a Samsung UN65KU6290 or 6300 and debating if it is worth it to pay the premium and go with the newest UN65MU6300? HDR seems improved and brightness but nothing substantial that I can detect
I'll be strictly watching cable TV, HD content/regular content and rarely Blu Ray
I just purchased a MU6300 43 incher.. I am replacing an older LG 42 inch 1080p TV.. I have no complaints with this Samsung.. really like the deeper blacks compared to my LG.. I don'T currently have any 4K source or HDR for that matter but Netflix and Amazon apps on this TV support HDR 4K so I feel future proofed somewhat with this model.
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I received a 65MU7500 as a warranty replacement for a 65JU7500 that had a failing backlight a few weeks ago. I'd have to say that so far the MU seems to be significantly better than the JU. Images look sharper, colors are punchier, and this unit has none of the blacklight bleed or screen reflections and black levels are much better/deeper than my old TV. I just bought Planet Earth 2 on 4K blu ray and it looks fantastic. The only thing I'm disappointed about is the MU doesn't have 3D, and I have some 3D documentaries that I still watched from time to time.
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Picked up the Samsung 49MU650DFXZA at Costco today which I guess is the same thing as the 49MU6500. Not sure if there is really any difference between the two. Anyways using this for a bedroom TV to replace 2012 46ES6100 model. The picture quality is a huge improvement but I have 3 complaints so far.

1. Not rotating stand like my previous model
2. Vudu UHD doesn't work on this TV (or any Samsung from what I'm reading).
3. The remote control sucks, I hate these companies that take buttons away. Especially the back-light.


Still deciding if I'm going to keep it.
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Got my 65" MU6300 and used some of the Rtings calibrations...Coming from a very old Samsung 1080 panel this one is just amazing. HD signal is great and I watched some 4K clips on Youtube with HDR on and it was quite impressive to me! sound was incredible, the resolution of the picture was insane and the HDR effect gave it some kind of a 3D effect...I am really really happy with such an amazing television offers one of the best value on the market
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Picked up the Samsung 49MU650DFXZA at Costco today which I guess is the same thing as the 49MU6500. Not sure if there is really any difference between the two. Anyways using this for a bedroom TV to replace 2012 46ES6100 model. The picture quality is a huge improvement but I have 3 complaints so far.

1. Not rotating stand like my previous model
2. Vudu UHD doesn't work on this TV (or any Samsung from what I'm reading).
3. The remote control sucks, I hate these companies that take buttons away. Especially the back-light.


Still deciding if I'm going to keep it.
Ok, decided I am returning the TV. Mostly because of the reasons above, but also I realized having a Curved 49 inch TV when sitting 15 feet away was a waste, basically was paying a premium for a curved TV and wasn't getting the full effect out of it because of the distance to the TV and the size.

I will mention the TV was one of the fast TV's I've ever used (turning on).
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This seems to be the best thread for posting my 65mu9000. Received it last wed. My first 4k set. Spent most time setting up. Really had some time to put it through its paces this weekend. Was becoming very impressed when I discovered a while horizontal line running all the way across the top about a quarter of the way down. Using comcast x1. All stations premium,hd,standard etc. was late going to try streaming uhd dvd etc today. Quite concerned i think it's permanent. Otherwise was liking the tv so far. Have you guys heard of this before any suggestions.
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MU8500: Optical output lost with Bluetooth headphones?

Hi. Would really appreciate if anyone can help with this, if only to replicate it and confirm it is a bug in the software of this TV!

I am using my new Samsung 55MU8500 with a SONOS sound bar with an optical audio connection. I have the "Sound Output" menu set to "Audio Out/Optical". That works well.

I am able to pair, connect, and use Bose QC35 Bluetooth headphones to listen to the TV. That works well too. When I turn them on, the TV prompts for a connection. But when I turn my headphones off, the sound bar no longer works. This is because the TV setting on the "Sound Output" menu goes to "TV Speaker". The setting of "Audio Out/Optical" is lost. That means that after every time I use Bluetooth headphones, I have to go back into the Settings and set "Sound Sound Output" to "Audio Out/Optical".

Anyone else seen this? Have I missed a setting somewhere?

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