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Bright Room Recommendations

As much as it pains me, a change in living rooms has made my Panasonic VT60 plasma tricky to view during the day. Basically I have an entire wall of windows floor to ceiling shining right in on the TV now -- so day time viewing is wonky. Would probably move the TV to another space as I can't bring myself to sell if off, but what good options are in the 65"+ display world now for a bright space? Been out of touch with this tech as my focus has been on the media room the last couple years.

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Samsung ks8000 or one of the new sony 900 series
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Ks8000, 75" 940d, 930e.
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Ks8000, 75" 940d, 930e.
Stay away from 940 series as it has zero anti-glare and is a full glossy screen, both the 940d/e and a very hard time dealing with bright rooms and are basically a mirror.

KS8000/9000/ Q9 Samsung is superior when it comes to controlling light and reflections. And the 930e would be a very good choice. However I give the nod to Samsung overall for bright room performance.

Still 930e will give you Dolby Vision support and is very bright. KS8000/9000 getting impossible to find. 930e would be the winner IMO.

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Stay away from 940 series as it has zero anti-glare and is a full glossy screen, both the 940d/e and a very hard time dealing with bright rooms and are basically a mirror.

KS8000/9000/ Q9 Samsung is superior when it comes to controlling light and reflections. And the 930e would be a very good choice. However I give the nod to Samsung overall for bright room performance.

Still 930e will give you Dolby Vision support and is very bright. KS8000/9000 getting impossible to find. 930e would be the winner IMO.
Thanks so much for the input. I was looking at the KS8000, but as mentioned previously by another they seem to be nearly impossible to find now. Does Samsung have an equivalent 2017 model to the KS8000?

I'll take a look at the 930e as well. Is the 930d similar just the 2016 model? As crutchfield has those for a pretty good price right now...

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Thanks so much for the input. I was looking at the KS8000, but as mentioned previously by another they seem to be nearly impossible to find now. Does Samsung have an equivalent 2017 model to the KS8000?

I'll take a look at the 930e as well. Is the 930d similar just the 2016 model? As crutchfield has those for a pretty good price right now...
You must only be looking in stores, because you can still find them online without too much difficulty. They're also cheaper.
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You must only be looking in stores, because you can still find them online without too much difficulty. They're also cheaper.
Actually had only been looking online -- Amazon / Crutchfield / Onecall / B&H all don't have them in 65" (B&H says 'more on the way').

Went to Best Buy today to see some of these in person, and the one that looked to have the least glare screen of anything they had on the floor was the Sony 900E interestingly -- the 930E definitely had a more glossy screen surface.

I do like that the Sony's have full array backlighting versus the Samsung's edge lighting.

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You are going to want something that can get super bright and that also has Motheye anti-glare filter. Something like last years Samsung KS9800 series or this years edge-lit Samsung QLEDs. Also, the upcoming Hisense 70H10D and 75H10D might have motheye. On the low end, the $1000 TCL 65P is said to get pretty bright. And if you decide to go try OLED, there are some shots in the thread of the Sony 65" A1E OLED in a bright room that looks very good.
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Actually had only been looking online -- Amazon / Crutchfield / Onecall / B&H all don't have them in 65" (B&H says 'more on the way').

Went to Best Buy today to see some of these in person, and the one that looked to have the least glare screen of anything they had on the floor was the Sony 900E interestingly -- the 930E definitely had a more glossy screen surface.

I do like that the Sony's have full array backlighting versus the Samsung's edge lighting.
Full array lighting doesn't mean much when it comes to a bright room, unless it's a light cannon like the Z9D or KS9800. The 900E is not that. The KS8000 does very well for an edge-lit TV, and the advantage of FALD is not going to come into play until you get into a dark room. And even then, it still does fairly well. The 900E does not offer Dolby digital, and I think for the purposes of a bright room, a KS8000 is a better TV.

This seems like a better deal, though:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10068772-65...ing?src=sticky

And you can find it on eBay, call B&H, or look at these:
http://www.samsung.com/us/television...ks8500fxza-buy
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I have yet to have issues in my sometimes rather bright living room with my X900E. My living room has an east facing window and in the morning with the blinds open and light pouring in, the X900E is easily bright enough to overpower it.
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Full array lighting doesn't mean much when it comes to a bright room, unless it's a light cannon like the Z9D or KS9800. The 900E is not that. The KS8000 does very well for an edge-lit TV, and the advantage of FALD is not going to come into play until you get into a dark room. And even then, it still does fairly well. The 900E does not offer Dolby digital, and I think for the purposes of a bright room, a KS8000 is a better TV.

This seems like a better deal, though:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10068772-65...ing?src=sticky

And you can find it on eBay, call B&H, or look at these:
http://www.samsung.com/us/television...ks8500fxza-buy
Thanks for these -- at this price for the 65" on the KS8000 is very tempting...

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Full array lighting doesn't mean much when it comes to a bright room, unless it's a light cannon like the Z9D or KS9800. The 900E is not that. The KS8000 does very well for an edge-lit TV, and the advantage of FALD is not going to come into play until you get into a dark room. And even then, it still does fairly well. The 900E does not offer Dolby digital, and I think for the purposes of a bright room, a KS8000 is a better TV.

This seems like a better deal, though:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10068772-65...ing?src=sticky

And you can find it on eBay, call B&H, or look at these:
http://www.samsung.com/us/television...ks8500fxza-buy
I had a KS8000 and now own a X900E and i can tell you the Sony does very well in a bright room. As well as the KS8000 did in my experience!
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I had a KS8000 and now own a X900E and i can tell you the Sony does very well in a bright room. As well as the KS8000 did in my experience!
Thanks Javelin -- wish I could still find a KS8000 to see in store, but the X900E did look pretty nice in store the other day. I know nothing is going to compare to my VT60, but also during the day it's quite distracting to even watch it with all the reflections. So anything will likely help that compared to the giant piece of glass on the Panasonic.

Know it will be a step down in PQ, but now have a JVC PJ in the media room for that...

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