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Anyone comment on the TCL Roku display speed on the P or C series? I bought a smaller 32" TCL with Roku about a year ago from Costco for the bedroom and found the interface is slower than my Roku 3. Just curious how it compares as I'm looking at a P series even though I want 65"....
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I was super tempted by the Costco "C" series deal, but I decided to order the Amazon 55P607. I'm kind of nervous about having a TV delivered by Fedex, but I guess I'll have to see. Here is my checklist of what to do with the TV.

1. Get the phone app and turn off noise reduction
2. Update the firmware
e. Input the settings from Ratings
4. Upgrade the Netflix Account for UHD

Anything I am missing?
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I was super tempted by the Costco "C" series deal, but I decided to order the Amazon 55P607. I'm kind of nervous about having a TV delivered by Fedex, but I guess I'll have to see. Here is my checklist of what to do with the TV.



1. Get the phone app and turn off noise reduction

2. Update the firmware

e. Input the settings from Ratings

4. Upgrade the Netflix Account for UHD



Anything I am missing?


I didn’t like rtings settings at all. It left the tv too dark for me and made everything look washed out. I posted my settings over in the C series forum. My settings (and my experience with the TV) are closer to the ones described in the PCMag C series review.


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Good to know Dan, thanks for the advice. Most of the discs we watch are from Redbox and I don't think they have UHD disks yet. The Oppo 203 is on the list but just convincing the wife to upgrade the TV is a start so not going to mention the 203 just yet. Going to look at the C803 this weekend as for that price and warranty I can't resist.
Say to her, "honey, I'm doing our household a big favor in buying the cheaper C803, so let's invest that saved money towards a quality player... the Oppo... and get all the features out of our new TV." Poke, poke... nudge, nudge... say no more, say no more.

It's time to stock up on UHD discs! Best Buy, for one, has quite a few for $9.99 to $14.99 starting on Turkey Day. Online too, it looks like. Blade Runner for $14.99... yes, please!

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Say to her, "honey, I'm doing our household a big favor in buying the cheaper C803, so let's invest that saved money towards a quality player... the Oppo... and get all the features out of our new TV." Poke, poke... nudge, nudge... say no more, say no more.

It's time to stock up on UHD discs! Best Buy, for one, has quite a few for $9.99 to $14.99 starting on Turkey Day. Online too, it looks like. Blade Runner for $14.99... yes, please!
Like your thinking Dan. Let me get the TV in first and then I'll work on the Oppo.
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Like your thinking Dan. Let me get the TV in first and then I'll work on the Oppo.
Then a Dolby Atmos audio system, if you don't have one already.

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Then a Dolby Atmos audio system, if you don't have one already.
I have the Onkyo TX-NR656 which says it's Dolby Atmos compatible.
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I'm still really upset they cancelled the 65" P model. I can't afford a 65" TV much more than $1k and the options are very limited, really just the Vizio M65.

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I was super tempted by the Costco "C" series deal, but I decided to order the Amazon 55P607. I'm kind of nervous about having a TV delivered by Fedex, but I guess I'll have to see. Here is my checklist of what to do with the TV.

1. Get the phone app and turn off noise reduction
2. Update the firmware
e. Input the settings from Ratings
4. Upgrade the Netflix Account for UHD

Anything I am missing?
Nice thing about the C series, not that it's a C series is that it's bought at Costco, you get a standard 2 year warranty, buy it with the Citi Visa get 2 more years, and then $29 for Square trade 3 year, 7 years for $29 is not bad at all. Yea it's not a P series but dang that's a good price.
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I have the Onkyo TX-NR656 which says it's Dolby Atmos compatible.
Have you added Top Middle speakers for a 5.1.2 system yet?

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Have you added Top Middle speakers for a 5.1.2 system yet?
My system is still waiting for the wife approval. I picked up the 656 to replace a failing old 5.1 unit, that was the starting point. We have 4 Monoprice Caliber In-Ceiling Speakers 6.5in in the ceiling because she didn't want speakers hanging off the wall after we painted, so we got the in-ceiling cheap speakers. Then I picked up a set of MA Silver 2 fronts with a center. So I'm running the MA Silver 2 as fronts with center and the 2 Caliber in-ceiling as the rear surrounds. I was going to hook up the in-ceiling fronts as the Atmos speakers but have read it's better to have them at listing level. IDK, it's hard when you have a narrow room with a small budget.
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My system is still waiting for the wife approval. I picked up the 656 to replace a failing old 5.1 unit, that was the starting point. We have 4 Monoprice Caliber In-Ceiling Speakers 6.5in in the ceiling because she didn't want speakers hanging off the wall after we painted, so we got the in-ceiling cheap speakers. Then I picked up a set of MA Silver 2 fronts with a center. So I'm running the MA Silver 2 as fronts with center and the 2 Caliber in-ceiling as the rear surrounds. I was going to hook up the in-ceiling fronts as the Atmos speakers but have read it's better to have them at listing level. IDK, it's hard when you have a narrow room with a small budget.
You could wire one of the left/right ceiling pairs (closest to above the main listening position) as the Top Middle and then get another pair of Monitor Audio in-wall's (that are closest sonically to the Silvers as possible) for the main level surrounds, which would be placed just above seated head height. The Dolby Atmos/DTS: X overhead speakers should be on or in the ceiling in Dolby's recommended layout, not at listening level. You want a good angle of separation between the lower level and upper level speakers.


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Nice thing about the C series, not that it's a C series is that it's bought at Costco, you get a standard 2 year warranty, buy it with the Citi Visa get 2 more years, and then $29 for Square trade 3 year, 7 years for $29 is not bad at all. Yea it's not a P series but dang that's a good price.
Yes, that's a huge plus.

If you do buy the P from Best Buy you can still get the 3yr warranty from Costco for $59, which brings the total warranty on the P605 to 4 years. Cheaper than GeekSquad...
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You could wire one of the left/right ceiling pairs (closest to above the main listening position) as the Top Middle and then get another pair of Monitor Audio in-wall's (that are closest sonically to the Silvers as possible) for the main level surrounds, which would be placed just above seated head height. The Dolby Atmos/DTS: X overhead speakers should be on or in the ceiling in Dolby's recommended layout, not at listening level. You want a good angle of separation between the lower level and upper level speakers.
So looking at the chart my rear surrounds would actually be good as top middle, front in-ceiling as top front and my MA silvers as the fronts. Just need something then as the back surround, which will be difficult as the couch sits flush with the wall.

OK, this is a TCL thread enough speaker talk, Wife is on board with the C805 for $445 which should look 1000% better than our old Toshiba 46xv640u. Plus having the C805 with the speakers firing in front is nice as I was going to look for a soundbar with the P607. The Best Buy model P605 vs the P607 is just the remote, not sure what the difference is between the 2 so I'll google it and see.

Good catch about buying the warranty through Costco on the P605, didn't know I could do that.
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I was super tempted by the Costco "C" series deal, but I decided to order the Amazon 55P607. I'm kind of nervous about having a TV delivered by Fedex, but I guess I'll have to see. Here is my checklist of what to do with the TV.

1. Get the phone app and turn off noise reduction
2. Update the firmware
e. Input the settings from Ratings
4. Upgrade the Netflix Account for UHD

Anything I am missing?
FYI Techno Dad recommends doing the FALD firmware update via USB during setup, and BEFORE you hook up the TCL to Wi-Fi.


I can't verify that the update doesn't work *without* using a thumb drive, but following his USB update steps when setting up my P607 out of the box worked for me.

So, long story short, I'd do the FALD update first before anything. In fact, I did.

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Has anyone compared the S405 and C803 series? I placed an order for the 55C803 at Costco, but not sure if the S405 is better suited for my purposes. Just want a basic TV for streaming Netflix and Hulu in the bedroom. I have a nice Plasma in the living room for movies, so there won't be much critical watching, but the reports of cloudiness and flashlight effect have me concerned. The 803 is only $50 more than the 405, which is not a big deal.

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Has anyone compared the S405 and C803 series? I placed an order for the 55C803 at Costco, but not sure if the S405 is better suited for my purposes. Just want a basic TV for streaming Netflix and Hulu in the bedroom. I have a nice Plasma in the living room for movies, so there won't be much critical watching, but the reports of cloudiness and flashlight effect have me concerned. The 803 is only $50 more than the 405, which is not a big deal.
Don't know how they compare but i would think they're similar. I have an S405 for the uses you mention and i'm very happy with, quite impressed actually! It handles sports surprisingly well. My main set is a Sony X900E
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Has anyone compared the S405 and C803 series? I placed an order for the 55C803 at Costco, but not sure if the S405 is better suited for my purposes. Just want a basic TV for streaming Netflix and Hulu in the bedroom. I have a nice Plasma in the living room for movies, so there won't be much critical watching, but the reports of cloudiness and flashlight effect have me concerned. The 803 is only $50 more than the 405, which is not a big deal.
The C803 should be a better TV than the S series which is the "value" line with no Dolby vision or dynamic contrast. Whether that's worth $50 is up to you though.

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Don't know how they compare but i would think they're similar. I have an S405 for the uses you mention and i'm very happy with, quite impressed actually! It handles sports surprisingly well. My main set is a Sony X900E
Thanks, it seems like they are pretty similar based on RTings, with the S405 having better black uniformity, but lower brightness and worse speakers.

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Yeah the $50 seems worth it for a nicer build quality and better speakers, they both have their merits but I think for $450 I will probably stick with the C803. Costco has free return shipping if I do not like it so little risk there.
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I was super tempted by the Costco "C" series deal, but I decided to order the Amazon 55P607. I'm kind of nervous about having a TV delivered by Fedex, but I guess I'll have to see. Here is my checklist of what to do with the TV.

1. Get the phone app and turn off noise reduction
2. Update the firmware
e. Input the settings from Ratings
4. Upgrade the Netflix Account for UHD

Anything I am missing?
What he said.Fedex had 2 people to deliver mine.Not my Westy-1guy end over end over end.

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Thanks, it seems like they are pretty similar based on RTings, with the S405 having better black uniformity, but lower brightness and worse speakers.







Yeah the $50 seems worth it for a nicer build quality and better speakers, they both have their merits but I think for $450 I will probably stick with the C803. Costco has free return shipping if I do not like it so little risk there.


The main benefits of the C series over S series are the speakers, Dolby Vision, and wide color gamut. The biggest of these is wide color gamut. It makes a big difference in the TV ability to produce reds and greens accurately when watching HDR content. In my opinion having the reds and greens look as sharp and true as they do on C series is worth way more than $50. And I don’t think Rtings truly highlights this difference relative to the difference it makes in watching content in HDR.


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The main benefits of the C series over S series are the speakers, Dolby Vision, and wide color gamut. The biggest of these is wide color gamut. It makes a big difference in the TV ability to produce reds and greens accurately when watching HDR content. In my opinion having the reds and greens look as sharp and true as they do on C series is worth way more than $50. And I don’t think Rtings truly highlights this difference relative to the difference it makes in watching content in HDR.


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That does seem like a pretty significant difference, I will definitely be sticking with the C803 for now and will see how it works in my room. Thanks for the help.
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Aside from like one deal at Costco, is it just me or is TCL not participating in Black Friday deals?
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Considering what's packed into the TV for its' standard MSRP, I'm actually not sure there's much they COULD cut off the price.

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So Costco sold out of the C series, and my order was canceled. However after going down to Best Buy to see the TVs, I now own the P605... what a beautiful picture! There really wasn't anything as nice until you started spending almost $800 on the Vizio M series. For $599 you get a hell of a TV and having been a long time Roku user, the UI is fantastic for me. Movie mode with a warm setting looks pretty good as per RTings, but I will mess around with it this weekend and see if I like something else better.

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Considering what's packed into the TV for its' standard MSRP, I'm actually not sure there's much they COULD cut off the price.
I hear ya, but even $50 off or something thrown in (not sure what, gift cards to vendors maybe even) would help them not get forgotten in the Holiday Sale Madness. I've pretty much decided on getting a 49S405, 55P605/607, and 65C807 for three rooms in a new house we're moving into soon, but it's tempting to deviate with all the other TV sales out there.
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Yes, that's a huge plus.

If you do buy the P from Best Buy you can still get the 3yr warranty from Costco for $59, which brings the total warranty on the P605 to 4 years. Cheaper than GeekSquad...
only 3 years actually. the SQ warranty is for 3 years and starts in CONJUNCTION with the mggers warranty, not on top of. it only stacks if its a costco bought tv
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The 75 inch version is being offered on Amazon with availability Dec 20. I am very interested but the lack of any reviews is making it an expense experiment. The features being offer cannot be duplicated by any other manufacture. I originally thought of getting a Sony 900e but the price difference may not be worth it. The majority of usage would be sports, Amazon, Netflix and gaming. Even though this is the main TV there will days when it will not even be put on

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