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post #3001 of 3296 Old 08-11-2018, 03:01 PM
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Thanks for the info, precisely what I was looking for! The current firmware 3.3.18.1 seems to be pretty solid. Would I be well-advised to keep the TV at this version? Looks like I'll be buying a chromecast!

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Thanks for the info, precisely what I was looking for! The current firmware 3.3.18.1 seems to be pretty solid. Would I be well-advised to keep the TV at this version? Looks like I'll be buying a chromecast!
Your choice. This is what's changed, mostly related to streaming (the "HDR Certification" is related to Amazon Prime streaming, I think). There is a way to connect but block updates, but you need control of a local DNS server, and be able to block access from the TV to Google DNS (8.8.8.8). I skipped 4.0.23.2, and when I upgraded from 3.4.8.15, it did it in steps, so I could have stopped at 4.0.23.2. But I can't guarantee that behavior - it may go directly to the latest for some? But I'd think 3.4.8.15 might be worthwhile. You'd have to search the earlier parts of this thread to see what problems were associated with 3.3.18.1.

3.4.8.15
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Improves Reds when playing HDR10 content.
Improves DirecTV Now functionality.
Resolves Snowy picture when viewing some content.
General stability and PQ improvements across the system

4.0.23.2
Update the Cast Shell to 1.27
HDR Certification for 2016 and 2017 M and P series
Fix for casting DirecTV now app 30 second loop problem
Alexa Performance improvements
p65-e1 white line issue fix
CEC Auto Naming
Correction to blue screen when casting Spotify
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4.1.2.3
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Fixes the issue where HDR content isn't passed through an AVR to the TV
Fixes the issue in Vudu where Dolby Vision content would randomly do a flash of the content when the scene changes
Overall system improvements.
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Is it just me or did the TV's smartcast front page change slightly? Like the icons on the bottom row are smaller?
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I don’t see the point of buying a Chromecast for this set, seeing that it basically has Chromecast built-in.
A Chromecast Ultra (and higher end Rokus) will decode VP9 Profile 2. Smartcast doesn't. It's used for HDR on Youtube and Google Play.

Maybe someday Vizio will add it into future sets. My understanding is that it requires better (faster?) hardware.
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Wow, thanks for all the input! So I think the main reason I was probably going to stay on 3.3.18.1 firmware is this tidbit from the rtings.com 2017 M series review:

"Update 01/23/2018: Retested input lag with the latest firmware (3.4.8.15). Input lag is ~9 ms higher across the board; this is also the case with the E Series 2017 and HDMI port 1 on the P Series 2017. The review has been updated."

Essentially, with 4K content I should be sitting around 38ms input lag with 3.3.18.1 firmware vs about 47ms input lag with later firmwares. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I do prefer to be a bit lower on the input lag if possible. I haven't noticed anything that has been fixed in the release notes of the later firmwares.
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Just bought the M75E1 today at Costco after returning a Samsung 65NU8000 that had vertical banding right in the center of the screen. The little amount of time ive spent watching the tv so far, im liking it! This is my first Vizio. Just hope it lasts without any problems!
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Yea I got a 2017M65 in February and then in May got a TCL 55" R615 and the M (in a dark room with bias lighting) holds its own very well against the TCKL also in dark room with bias lighting.


Only thing I cannot speak to is gaming where I use TCL but for movies streaming and even cable tv, M 2017 looks damned good compared to TCL 615
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Yea I got a 2017M65 in February and then in May got a TCL 55" R615 and the M (in a dark room with bias lighting) holds its own very well against the TCKL also in dark room with bias lighting.


Only thing I cannot speak to is gaming where I use TCL but for movies streaming and even cable tv, M 2017 looks damned good compared to TCL 615
I don't mean to hijack this but I have a quick question about bias lighting. I've been interested in getting it for my basement, which is really dark. What would you recommend for a 70 inch tv? I'm looking for something on the cheaper end... but I worry that the ones I've seen on amazon are too short for my setup.

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I don't mean to hijack this but I have a quick question about bias lighting. I've been interested in getting it for my basement, which is really dark. What would you recommend for a 70 inch tv? I'm looking for something on the cheaper end... but I worry that the ones I've seen on amazon are too short for my setup.
I bought two sets of these on Amazon, but they are cheaper on eBay here...

only downside is they take up both usb ports on the M and never turn off (which is fine by me)

One set may be enough guy for some but two sets spaced around the 65" was perfect

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Costco sure is making the 75" very tempting as it's now under 4 digits at my local warehouse. I just might pull the trigger this weeke
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This observation is not specific to the M Series or any TV for that matter, but I had to laugh when poking around 4k.com this morning. I found a review of the 2016 M series and when the review got to talking about HDR, there was this set of photos comparing the difference between SDR and HDR. And while you may not notice it at first glance, it is a bit misleading considering they are 2 different photos.

I'm still diggin' my new M75. I've been enjoying how great Bosch looks as I've been binge-watching it lately.
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Costco sure is making the 75" very tempting as it's now under 4 digits at my local warehouse. I just might pull the trigger this weeke
Wow, I wish where I’m at.
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it is a bit misleading considering they are 2 different photos.
? That's one photo, split in half.
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Costco sure is making the 75" very tempting as it's now under 4 digits at my local warehouse. I just might pull the trigger this weeke
At that price it's a no-brainer for what you're getting.
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Costco sure is making the 75" very tempting as it's now under 4 digits at my local warehouse. I just might pull the trigger this weeke
Under 4 digits!!! Don't wait on that puppy!!!

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I just went to my 2 local Costco’s and nothing. They had the new quantum 65 though.
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Yeah, the local warehouse has both the 70" and 75" for same price. I need to go-to the dump to empty out all my grass clippings and brush to make room for a 75 if I pull the trigger. Man, I just need to be sure cause I'd hate to have to return it if there's something wrong or I just don't like it.
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Under 4 digits!!! Don't wait on that puppy!!!
Also, post a pic of it for us so we can submit our price rewinds! I wouldn't mind getting a nice check for a few hundred dollars!
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Yeah, the local warehouse has both the 70" and 75" for same price. I need to go-to the dump to empty out all my grass clippings and brush to make room for a 75 if I pull the trigger. Man, I just need to be sure cause I'd hate to have to return it if there's something wrong or I just don't like it.
I can't see the 75" lasting at that price at all. I picked mine up from my local Costco for a low 4 digit price about 3 weeks ago, and it was the very last one they had.

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Anyone know where to find the build date on these sets? I just got the M75E1 a few days ago. I looked on the back of mine and couldn't find it anywhere.
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Yeah, the local warehouse has both the 70" and 75" for same price. I need to go-to the dump to empty out all my grass clippings and brush to make room for a 75 if I pull the trigger. Man, I just need to be sure cause I'd hate to have to return it if there's something wrong or I just don't like it.
I can't see the 75" lasting at that price at all. I picked mine up from my local Costco for a low 4 digit price about 3 weeks ago, and it was the very last one they had.
2 75's and 6 70's at 999 at Costco today. I may pull the trigger tomorrow morning. Still not sure even though the demos they ran looked great.
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2 75's and 6 70's at 999 at Costco today. I may pull the trigger tomorrow morning. Still not sure even though the demos they ran looked great.
The M75-E1 is a complete *no-brainer* at that price. What is the hesitation?

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I always hesitate before spending a grand. This afternoon they were down to 2 boxed 75's and 1 demo unit....5 70's plus a demo unit as well. Might wait till Sunday to see new prices for all other TV's as 18th is end of current sale. The m series prices don't have experation dates.

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I always hesitate before spending a grand. This afternoon they were down to 2 boxed 75's and 1 demo unit....5 70's plus a demo unit as well. Might wait till Sunday to see new prices for all other TV's as 18th is end of current sale. The m series prices don't have experation dates.
I hear you—after all, it’s your money. But if you are truly in the market for a 75” set, I highly suggest that you do not hesitate. You will not find another 75” set that will perform as well for even $1,500. To get a better 75” set, you would have to spend $1800 on the Vizio P75-F1.

While the 2017 M series prices do not have expiration dates, there is very limited availability because it’s last year’s model. You might find that they don’t have any more sets by the time you want to pull the trigger. I know this because I bought the very last one my local Costco had.

FWIW, I bought the M75-E1 to replace a 65” X900E that cost me two grand last year. I did recoup some of that money by selling the X900E to my cousin for $500. Just my humble opinion, but I obviously think it’s worth every penny and then some.

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I just bought a bias lighting LED strip that runs off USB. I attached the strip to the back of my M-50-E1 and plugged into the USB port on the TV. Nothing happens. Is there some magic to turning on the USB port so that it will power the light strip? Thanks in advance.

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? That's one photo, split in half.
Yeah, you're right. It didn't appear the rocks at the bottom of the photo lined up, but I guess they do. Although it's hard to believe it's that drastic

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I just bought a bias lighting LED strip that runs off USB. I attached the strip to the back of my M-50-E1 and plugged into the USB port on the TV. Nothing happens. Is there some magic to turning on the USB port so that it will power the light strip? Thanks in advance.

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Never mind....I'm an idiot.....there was an On/Off switch on the LED strip I didn't see. Works fine.

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Well, tomorrow is the day. Costco trip first thing in the morning so we will see if I have the nerve to spend some money. I just hope if I do pull the trigger that the new tv will look as good as my current 65" Vizio m series 1080p set. It's been a great set. And very little noticable DSE. And great blacks.

Sitting 16-18 feet away I think I'll really appreciate the size increase the 75" will give me. I just need to take the plunge LoL.
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I haven't been on here for a while, so I'm hoping someone can help me. Is the M series now capable of showing 4K or 4K HDR from the built in YouTube and Amazon Prime apps? I know months ago, it was not able to.
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I pulled the trigger! Got my m75 from Costco this morning and have my Roku in HDMI 4 for streaming tv service from spectrum. I have my Xbox 1X on HDMI 1 for gaming and hdr movies.

I will say after the tv ran all it's updates, I factory reset and the switched the HDMI ports to calibrated picture mode and enabled game mode and wide color on HDMI 1. Everything looks great. The panel is even better than my old m65 1080 set. It's nearly perfect. I watched nfl Network on my Roku and there is no noticable DSE at all. Then I youtubed 4k video that said best 4k hdr test video and again no DSE at all. I say "nearly" perfect only because each of the extreme edge of the corners are a little darker than the rest of the screen. But I'm talking maybe pinky finger nail size and only noticable on white screens when your looking for them. Don't see them at all watching football or shows. Overall a great panel. I am stoked... beautiful picture on this bad boy.
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