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post #61 of 3332 Old 06-19-2017, 10:28 PM
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Not displaying hdr??

I have a roku hooked up into the hdmi 1 port. When I stream a movie over Netflix advertised as 4k (or something over YouTube advertised has 4k hdr), and then using the tv remote i click "menu, system, system information", it says resolution 3840x2160,
But it also says "HDR: No". I have not managed to play anything that will make the HDR say yes when it plays. Does anyone know what is going on with this? Isn't the hdr feature the big deal with the picture quality? Do other people's system information display settings say "hdr: yes"??
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I have a roku hooked up into the hdmi 1 port. When I stream a movie over Netflix advertised as 4k (or something over YouTube advertised has 4k hdr), and then using the tv remote i click "menu, system, system information", it says resolution 3840x2160,
But it also says "HDR: No". I have not managed to play anything that will make the HDR say yes when it plays. Does anyone know what is going on with this? Isn't the hdr feature the big deal with the picture quality? Do other people's system information display settings say "hdr: yes"??
Go into the TV settings select input then select full UHD color and turn it on.
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Do a search in Netflix for HDR all the 4k videos don't have HDR.
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I have uhd turned on under the hdmi 1 input.
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I have uhd turned on under the hdmi 1 input.
Which Roku do you have?
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This thread doesn't say no price talk, and I'm not sure if here's a general rule against that? My bad if so...

Anyways since I get a discount on target I've been searching the model number for the 65" 2017 m series (the one I want) on tarjay.com every so often. Today I noticed it has a listing for 999. $200 less than everywhere else. It says unavailable though, so I'm wondering if it's just some super early placeholder? It's possible the listing has been there a while, but I dont THINK it was, as best I remember.

Could be a fantastic deal if it holds up.
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Did you try doing a search for HDR in Netflix?
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Ok, I did that, and when i play something that says HDR on Netflix.... I feel like a dufus. Yes, it does just change the HDR display setting away from "no". I guess I just wasn't watching programming that had HDR. I just assumed anythign in 4K had HDR, because i read so much about how barely anything was available in 4k anyway, and what impacted picture quality even more than 4k vs 1080p was HDR, so focus on that.... so I didn't imagine that the programs with HDR was an even smaller subset of those with 4k. I don't think I get this whole HDR thing, haha. I am also confused about Netflix..... some movies say HD, others say "ultra HD 4k", and others say "HDR". Do the ones that say "HDR" come in 4k or not? Does the HDR designator always mean they are also in 4k but (even better) they have HDR as well? Or could there be a non 4k HDR program on Netflix?

Also, does the quality of the TV's HDR (which all the reviews made such a fuss about) not matter didly except for this like handful of movies on Netflix that have it?? (Which seems to be even fewer than the those in 4k?) Goodness knows comcast doesn't have anything that makes my TV say the HDR is on.
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The youtube HDR channel, however, does not ping the HDR "on" in m system settings, which is weird.
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Ok, I did that, and when i play something that says HDR on Netflix.... I feel like a dufus. Yes, it does just change the HDR display setting away from "no". I guess I just wasn't watching programming that had HDR. I just assumed anythign in 4K had HDR, because i read so much about how barely anything was available in 4k anyway, and what impacted picture quality even more than 4k vs 1080p was HDR, so focus on that.... so I didn't imagine that the programs with HDR was an even smaller subset of those with 4k. I don't think I get this whole HDR thing, haha. I am also confused about Netflix..... some movies say HD, others say "ultra HD 4k", and others say "HDR". Do the ones that say "HDR" come in 4k or not? Does the HDR designator always mean they are also in 4k but (even better) they have HDR as well? Or could there be a non 4k HDR program on Netflix?

Also, does the quality of the TV's HDR (which all the reviews made such a fuss about) not matter didly except for this like handful of movies on Netflix that have it?? (Which seems to be even fewer than the those in 4k?) Goodness knows comcast doesn't have anything that makes my TV say the HDR is on.
All HDR content is 4K by definition. But you may get lower resolution, if you have slow internet speed or during congested hours.
Netflix has:
HD = 1080P.
UHD/4K = 4K.
Dolby Vision (DV) or HDR10 = HDR.

DV is the preferred HDR format. The M series is capable of streaming Dolby Vision in [email protected], but HDR10 in [email protected] So some of the demo content on Netflix may stream in either format, depending on its FPS.
Normal shows and movies are 24P (24FPS) and should stream in DV.

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Had to deal with Vizio for a warranty issue for the first time. Discovered 2 white pixels in the middle of the screen one of them I could actually see the led when that area of the screen got real bright. It was really noticable when watching HDR content. Sent pictures 2 minutes later a replacement was autherized and a brand new TV was delivered and setup a few days later. All in all it was pretty painless and quick. Overall the panel looks better than the last.
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Hello everyone! I just picked up this TV and have enjoyed it! One thing that baffles me is why the ARC input is the same one as the one with HDMI 2.0. I have a few questions hoping that you guys could help me out with! Do HDR and DV work on any HDMI inputs or only on HDMI 1? What about WCG? And what about casting, would netflix content show up with HDR? Thanks for any help you guys can provide!
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The ports can accept HDR signals, but only at up to [email protected] (or maybe 24Hz).
What about WCG? It's there on the 2017 M series.
Yes, but you have to opt for the 4K UHD plan on Netflix for it to work. First Cast to the display, and then all of the HDR content will have "Dolby Vision" instead of just 4K.
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Hello everyone! I just picked up this TV and have enjoyed it! One thing that baffles me is why the ARC input is the same one as the one with HDMI 2.0. I have a few questions hoping that you guys could help me out with! Do HDR and DV work on any HDMI inputs or only on HDMI 1? What about WCG? And what about casting, would netflix content show up with HDR? Thanks for any help you guys can provide!
PS4 pro and Xbox one S need to be on HDMI 1 for HDR. I recently watched Billy Lynns long halftime walk UHD Blu-ray and it runs at 4k 60hz HDR there is not a lot of content mastered this way yet, but the pro and S needs a port that meets that spec. Regular ps4 will do HDR on any port as long as the game supports HDR. Just depends on the device. When you're watching any HDR content WCG is automatic.
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Thanks for the answers! That helps!
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If anyone out there who has a 65" could help me with this question I would appreciate it.

What is the width of the stands? I have a 51.5" TV stand and I think it's going to be close!

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I'm seriously considering the M series but I was wondering if there would be any advantage to this over the 2016 P series model? Best Buy has an open box 75 inch 2016 P series for $2200 which is kind of tempting.

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I'm seriously considering the M series but I was wondering if there would be any advantage to this over the 2016 P series model? Best Buy has an open box 75 inch 2016 P series for $2200 which is kind of tempting.
The P is the better TV plus it's a few hundred cheaper than the 2017 M 75 inch.
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If anyone out there who has a 65" could help me with this question I would appreciate it.

What is the width of the stands? I have a 51.5" TV stand and I think it's going to be close!

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I believe it's about 50 inches
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If anyone out there who has a 65" could help me with this question I would appreciate it.

What is the width of the stands? I have a 51.5" TV stand and I think it's going to be close!

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It's on the specs page on Vizio's website, should be identical to the 2016 M series too.

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It's on the specs page on Vizio's website, should be identical to the 2016 M series too.
I saw these dimensions but doesn't really tell you the width needed for the legs. Maybe I missed it somewhere else on the site, I'll poke around some more. Between pulling the apps off the TV and these damn wide legs Vizio just doesn't want to sell me a " tuner-free display".

I haven't found an "M" on the shelf down in my parts but maybe I can find a 65" "E" Series at Wally World. I guess they would be similar.

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Thanks. I missed your reply before I went off on my rant.

I have to check how deep the legs are as well.

It's interesting, Best Buy only has the E Series in my local store now, and no longer has the "P" series online. It does have the "M" online but not in my local store.

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@Mcguinn

Here are the specs for the 2015 M65, looks similar.
So space should be 50" apart.

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Product Base / Stand Dimension49.95" wide
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Thanks. I missed your reply before I went off on my rant.

I have to check how deep the legs are as well.

It's interesting, Best Buy only has the E Series in my local store now, and no longer has the "P" series online. It does have the "M" online but not in my local store.
No worries almost 11 inches for the depth.
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[QUOTE=The Coolest;53873361] @Mcguinn

Here are the specs for the 2015 M65, looks similar.
So space should be 50" apart.

Thank you.

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No worries almost 11 inches for the depth.
That's Great. I'll make it with a couple inches to spare.

This is a piece of furniture my wife really likes and she puts up with 9 speakers/subs, 4 electronics components, numerous cords n cables, and soon, a 65" TV.

I had to make this work!

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Been using my M70-E3 display for about a week and I'm pretty happy! I'm coming from an older Samsung Plasma, so I'm used to "darker" picture.

Impressions - Rtings calibration settings vs the default are similar to the naked eye. There isn't much difference from my perspective, but that's okay. Colors are super vibrant and blacks are inky black. This may be why darker scenes look dark because of how inky these blacks look. I don't mind this.

HDR/4K - HDR/4K looks just as good as it does in store. There's not a lot of content, but from the "demo" 4k content on YouTube, I'm very impressed. Also, HDMI 1 properly brings in 4K and HDR from NETFLIX accurately, which is great - I'm casting directly to the display with using the built-in Chromecast. Oh, and ARC is fully supported with my Sony DN1080 receiver.

I am one of those who couldn't decide if I liked the soap opera effect, fortunately from this display, it's not an option. But 4K 60fps looks GREAT - I have to admit I used YouTube 60fps, so it may not be true/real. But looks great to me.

Overall, pretty happy with the display and color quality. Glare isn't too bad and the viewing angle on the M70 is actually better than expected. Dark scenes are a little dark at the moment (when viewing in the middle of the day), but I'm thinking that will be addressed over time as I continue to update settings.

Hope this helps someone who is on the fence.
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I find it very interesting to see that Vizio is selling its remaining stock of 2016 M Series displays for a higher price than the new 2017 M Series. I wonder if they have a higher cost in the older ones, or what the reasoning might be. It would seem to me that it would make more sense to price them lower to "blow them out" or at least at parity to give customers a choice. I just don't know that I understand their logic..

Weird...
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