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ksrigg 06-06-2017 08:10 PM

Official 2017 Vizio M Series Owners Thread
 
I know there are people posting in other threads with information and observations from their new 2017 Vizio M Series displays and I thought it was time to start a dedicated thread for owners. As I am not yet an owner of the 2017 M Series, but the owner of a 2016 M70-D3, I am anxious to see reviews and hear what owners of this years iteration have to say!

joe01880 06-06-2017 08:17 PM

I'm in the market for a new 4K tv myself, I'm looking at Vizio and others. What's the difference between the M series and the P series?

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bpa88 06-06-2017 08:26 PM

Ok question for everyone. My new 2017 m series has been great since i got it a few days ago but now i got a slight hiccup. This only happens when casting netflix 4k DV content. If i begin casting netflix and say im watching just an HD program, if i stop and switch to a 4k DV video it will load and begin playing, however i get split second flashes as what i can only describe as digital data pixelation, it is like a 2 second flash and it will continue to do this until i stop the video close my netflix app, force close it, open it back up and begin casting again at which point the 4k DV video loads and plays just fine, no flashing digital blocks/pixelation. all other content and sources play fine, roku, blu-ray, HD and 4k content, youtube casting etc never experience the issue, i also found a video of almost exactly the same problem but on an lg oled display, mine looks just like that when it happens.




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joe01880 06-06-2017 09:05 PM

What's Vizio say? Where did you get it?
A problem like only after a few days I would think will only get worse. If vizio can't explain why this is happening I think you should take that thing back.
Even at Vizio prices these tv's cost WAY to much money to put up with that not even for a few seconds!

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bpa88 06-06-2017 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe01880 (Post 53480514)
What's Vizio say? Where did you get it?
A problem like only after a few days I would think will only get worse. If vizio can't explain why this is happening I think you should take that thing back.
Even at Vizio prices these tv's cost WAY to much money to put up with that not even for a few seconds!

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Well good news, i decided to check to see if i could get a video of my tv doing it, however i couldnt replicate the issue. I thought it was quite odd since i could always get it to do it like i explained above. I just happen to check my firmware and apparently at some point today my set updated from 3.2.8 to 3.2.13 and this new firmware seems to have completely fixed my issue!

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joe01880 06-06-2017 09:21 PM

Glad that's all it was!

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bpa88 06-06-2017 09:28 PM

Me too, the tv has been flawless otherwise and i didnt want the hassle of taking it off the wall after spending so much time getting all the cables routed and hidden and the angle of the tv just right lol.

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Sameer Bhaskarla 06-07-2017 07:36 AM

Hello guys, I picked up my M series 55 inches on the weekend. I absolutely love it. This is my first TV ever after leaving my parents house where we had a Sony. Coming from an old LCD (2009) to this amazing 4k display is quite of a difference. 4K content is beyond belief for me but I noticed that HD content upscaling is not too impressive..it's nice but not mind blowing. What do you guys think about it? Are you absolutely satisfied with the upscaling?

Sameer Bhaskarla 06-07-2017 07:36 AM

And also if someone has calibrated it please provide the settings for it. Much appreciated

bpa88 06-07-2017 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sameer Bhaskarla (Post 53486154)
And also if someone has calibrated it please provide the settings for it. Much appreciated

I second this..cant find any calibration info yet

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tdsbigo 06-07-2017 01:51 PM

So far the biggest improvement that I noticed is HDR. The addition of WCG makes a big difference. The overall screen brightness has been improved not sure if it's as bright as the P when it comes to full screen but it can get small highlights bright something that the P does not do at least not yet.

I created a picture mode on my 2016 M using the vivid settings for HDR I know it's not as accurate but was brighter than calibrated mode. On the 2017 calibrated is brighter than 2016 Ms vivid I even set the gamma to about 2.2 and it's still bright. I used 1.8 to 2.0 for the 2016 M.

DaveFi 06-07-2017 05:23 PM

http://www.bjs.com/vizio-m65-e--smar...00000000833116

BJ's has the M65-E0 at a good price. I'm waiting for the reviews to come in before I jump.

Abdoul80 06-07-2017 06:00 PM

Little tip on price. I ordered my 65 inch directly from the Vizio website. They do have it listed for slightly more at 1199 but by signing up to their newsletter you get a 5% coupon code that you can apply at checkout. I ended up paying 1140.

jmarks2001 06-07-2017 07:21 PM

I just got my m50 yesterday and was surprised that there were no streaming apps on the tv itself. Chromecast only. Previews I read said that they were going away from this and back to "traditional" apps for the 2017 models.

Dr.Shankenstein 06-07-2017 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmarks2001 (Post 53503505)
I just got my m50 yesterday and was surprised that there were no streaming apps on the tv itself. Chromecast only. Previews I read said that they were going away from this and back to "traditional" apps for the 2017 models.

Sounds like it will be an update coming later as far as my understanding.

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iGoldeneye 06-07-2017 10:44 PM

Anyone play Xbox One S or PS4 Pro on the 2017 M-series? I've been looking for a "budget" friendly 4K TV, I mainly game and use Plex to watch movies.

tdsbigo 06-07-2017 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmarks2001 (Post 53503505)
I just got my m50 yesterday and was surprised that there were no streaming apps on the tv itself. Chromecast only. Previews I read said that they were going away from this and back to "traditional" apps for the 2017 models.

Last I heard was sometime during this summer. It will still be Chromecast the TV will be given the ability to request the stream and will retrieve it like it does now.

Mcguinn 06-08-2017 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe01880 (Post 53479442)
I'm in the market for a new 4K tv myself, I'm looking at Vizio and others. What's the difference between the M series and the P series?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bpa88 (Post 53488890)
I second this..cant find any calibration info yet

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Rtings should have a review out within the next couple weeks. I understand they have already purchased an M Series, and gave mid-June as an eta for the review.

They usually include a section with settings, and a calibration report, as part of the review process. I wouldn't doubt that they will highlight differences between the Vizio M & P Series displays.

I am awaiting this review so I can make a decision between the Vizio P and M or see if I need to wait for the TCL P series as I want a 65" display. CNET also said they would be reviewing the M, but that was over a month ago and nothing from them as of yet.

bpa88 06-08-2017 06:46 AM

Looking forward to the rtings so i can try their calibration settings. So far i would say what amazes me most with this tv compared to the other 4k tv it replaced is the FALD and HDR. The fald allows blacks to be black but whites to be bright without washing out the whole picture like my old tv. Also this is my first time seeing HDR and it really makes the picture pop in a way that makes you say wow.

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acc41381 06-08-2017 09:27 AM

Hello, I recently purchased the M55-E0 and it's my first HDR TV. I'm a little confused how HDR is displayed on it. It's my understanding that the HDMI-1 port is the only input that can pass HDR/WCG-encoded content, correct? Currently my only HDR source is casting 4k HDR videos from YouTube, but I'm not sure if the TV is actually displaying the video in HDR/WCG. When I'm casting YouTube HDR videos and I look at the "System Information" menu the "HDR" field about half way down the list always says "No". Does this mean the content currently on display is not HDR? Or that the HDR feature hasn't been activated on the TV? This sounds like a stupid question, but I just want to make sure the TV is actually displaying in HDR. Is there a setting within the menu I have to enable in order for the TV to display HDR/WCG content? Just not sure why the HDR value says "no" all the time under the system information menu. Thanks

bpa88 06-08-2017 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acc41381 (Post 53512737)
Hello, I recently purchased the M55-E0 and it's my first HDR TV. I'm a little confused how HDR is displayed on it. It's my understanding that the HDMI-1 port is the only input that can pass HDR/WCG-encoded content, correct? Currently my only HDR source is casting 4k HDR videos from YouTube, but I'm not sure if the TV is actually displaying the video in HDR/WCG. When I'm casting YouTube HDR videos and I look at the "System Information" menu the "HDR" field about half way down the list always says "No". Does this mean the content currently on display is not HDR? Or that the HDR feature hasn't been activated on the TV? This sounds like a stupid question, but I just want to make sure the TV is actually displaying in HDR. Is there a setting within the menu I have to enable in order for the TV to display HDR/WCG content? Just not sure why the HDR value says "no" all the time under the system information menu. Thanks

Youtube HDR is currently not supported through casting. If you have a roku premier plus or ultra on hdmi 1 with uhd color enable you can view YouTube HDR videos. Currently hdr casting is supported on netflix ans vudu that i know of.

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acc41381 06-08-2017 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpa88 (Post 53514225)
Youtube HDR is currently not supported through casting. If you have a roku premier plus or ultra on hdmi 1 with uhd color enable you can view YouTube HDR videos. Currently hdr casting is supported on netflix ans vudu that i know of.

Thank you for this information. When you say "YouTube HDR is not supported through casting" do you mean the YouTube app doesn't support it or Vizio TVs don't support it? I don't have a Netflix or Vudu subscription, a Roku premier plus/Ultra device, nor do I have an ultra bluray player/xbox/PS so I guess I'm out of options to view HDR/WCG content on my new TV right now.

The Coolest 06-08-2017 06:26 PM

@acc41381

The display doesn't support the codec Google uses for YT HDR. Therefore you'll need an external device that supports it.
Currently it's only the mentioned Rokus, Chromecast Ultra and some of the UHD BD players. I don't believe any of the gaming consoles support it either.

vulsker 06-09-2017 07:28 AM

Not too bad. Rtings got their review up and overall I say its a good upgrade from last year.

Rtings M 2017

Youcan1 06-09-2017 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vulsker (Post 53532345)
Not too bad. Rtings got their review up and overall I say its a good upgrade from last year.

Rtings M 2017

It looks like HDR performance (color, brightness) got a big boost, while local dimming isn't as good as last year thanks to fewer zones. Everything else seems to be about on par with last years model.

ksrigg 06-09-2017 08:39 AM

I don't know if I totally understand the overall rating for this set....it received a 7.8 while the 2016 received a 7.9. It appears that the 2016 model scored slightly better than the 2017 model...I guess the trade-off of the 120 hz panel and number of dimming zones for WCG and brightness was almost a wash. I would love to see the two different models side by side. Overall I am still very happy with my M70-D3. I think it represents a real bargain. If there was more availability of HDR content I might have a different view, but I think I can enjoy my 2016 Vizio M Series for a few years and wait to see if Directv and Comcast offer any more content than is available now.

I'll bet the 2018 P Series is going to knock your socks off..

bpa88 06-09-2017 09:25 AM

Good review, seems i made a good choice purchasing the tv. I tried their calibration settings and not sure if its bc i have had the tv on standard but the pq looks washed out using their calibration settings.

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tdsbigo 06-09-2017 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksrigg (Post 53533553)
I don't know if I totally understand the overall rating for this set....it received a 7.8 while the 2016 received a 7.9. It appears that the 2016 model scored slightly better than the 2017 model...I guess the trade-off of the 120 hz panel and number of dimming zones for WCG and brightness was almost a wash. I would love to see the two different models side by side. Overall I am still very happy with my M70-D3. I think it represents a real bargain. If there was more availability of HDR content I might have a different view, but I think I can enjoy my 2016 Vizio M Series for a few years and wait to see if Directv and Comcast offer any more content than is available now.

I'll bet the 2018 P Series is going to knock your socks off..

I have both and honestly I don't notice a big difference due to the amount of zones, but I am actually watching content not a bunch of white shapes moving over a black background. I also have a dedicated screen for PC gaming so 120hz was not important to me. Now I can say the WCG and peak brightness greatly improves the HDR experiences.

tdsbigo 06-09-2017 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpa88 (Post 53534633)
Good review, seems i made a good choice purchasing the tv. I tried their calibration settings and not sure if its bc i have had the tv on standard but the pq looks washed out using their calibration settings.

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They created the calibration using calibrated dark picture mode.

audacious nick 06-09-2017 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ksrigg (Post 53533553)
I don't know if I totally understand the overall rating for this set....it received a 7.8 while the 2016 received a 7.9. It appears that the 2016 model scored slightly better than the 2017 model...I guess the trade-off of the 120 hz panel and number of dimming zones for WCG and brightness was almost a wash. I would love to see the two different models side by side. Overall I am still very happy with my M70-D3. I think it represents a real bargain. If there was more availability of HDR content I might have a different view, but I think I can enjoy my 2016 Vizio M Series for a few years and wait to see if Directv and Comcast offer any more content than is available now.

I'll bet the 2018 P Series is going to knock your socks off..

The 2017 M-series went DOWN in zones in exchange for better brightness and a 10-bit panel. And they removed the tablet. I would not be at all surprised if they did this for the 2018 P-series: sacrificed one thing to improve another.


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