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I know that but are the settings for 95 contrast and 2.0 gamma used for hdr too or are those only for sdr?
I know the backlight 4, contrast 95, and gamma 2.0 is for sdr, but are those all used for hdr as Well?
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No, you shouldn't mess with the backlight or Contrast when in HDR mode. The mode automatically changes it to 100 so it can work its HDR magic.

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I didn't realize that rtings has new/revised calibration for this TV? How did you find this out?

I'm one of the few people, I believe on here, that isn't a big fan of the "movie" setting, as I seem to prefer the picture on the "normal" or the low power mode. I wish I could take a poll and see just how much I am in the minority with this setting .
I agree with you. MOVIE mode just puts too much of a yellow haze over content that I can not adjust to. I find NORMAL mode with Color Temp of WARM is most pleasing for my viewing.

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No, you shouldn't mess with the backlight or Contrast when in HDR mode. The mode automatically changes it to 100 so it can work its HDR magic.
I don't touch anything in Backlight or Contrast in HDR or DV mode, but if you do find content at times too dark and losing detail in these modes an adjustment of Gamma from default of 2.2 to 2.0 does make a difference. Just have to try it out and determine if it works for you.

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I don't touch anything in Backlight or Contrast in HDR or DV mode, but if you do find content at times too dark and losing detail in these modes an adjustment of Gamma from default of 2.2 to 2.0 does make a difference. Just have to try it out and determine if it works for you.
I understand that I just didn't understand the whole gamma 2.0 thing with the new rtings settings. Was he using it only for sdr?
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So glad these threads exist. Just bought a 55P605 and using the Rtings settings I felt the picture just wasn't popping like my Samsung 55KU6300. But I am going to try reducing the gamma and contrast in the updated settings tonight.

Anyone use the Netflix app on their Xbox One S on this TV? The menu is completely washed out once it engages the HDR. I tried playing with the settings, but everything is what it should be. The content seems fine though, just thought it was odd.

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The new setting is MUCH better. It’s in the video only. (Different contrast and gamma, I think one other setting is different but I can’t recall what it is off hand)


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Where is this new video with the full new calibration settings? I don't see it on rtings and went back several pages in this thread.

Disregard, found it here if anyone else is curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=buSiu_l6tFw

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So glad these threads exist. Just bought a 55P605 and using the Rtings settings I felt the picture just wasn't popping like my Samsung 55KU6300. But I am going to try reducing the gamma and contrast in the updated settings tonight.

Anyone use the Netflix app on their Xbox One S on this TV? The menu is completely washed out once it engages the HDR. I tried playing with the settings, but everything is what it should be. The content seems fine though, just thought it was odd.
I, personally, have not had that issue with Netflix, but have with my Xbox one X, usually it will correct itself if I use the controller Xbox button to return to the home menu, the colors should switch back to sdr, then return to the hdr content and it should switch back to the appropriate hdr mode. I then press the Xbox button again to check the colors in the pop up menu, if the pop up menu is washed out, I try again, but if the colors appear properly saturated, it's working as it should. On rare occasion I'll have to perform a hard reset on the Xbox to make it work. I once even had to reinstall the blu ray app for the Xbox. I hope this helps.
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I understand that I just didn't understand the whole gamma 2.0 thing with the new rtings settings. Was he using it only for sdr?
I'm pretty sure he uses gamma 2.0 for all modes.

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So glad these threads exist. Just bought a 55P605 and using the Rtings settings I felt the picture just wasn't popping like my Samsung 55KU6300. But I am going to try reducing the gamma and contrast in the updated settings tonight.

Anyone use the Netflix app on their Xbox One S on this TV? The menu is completely washed out once it engages the HDR. I tried playing with the settings, but everything is what it should be. The content seems fine though, just thought it was odd.
My guess is that although HDR is initiated on your TV, the menus aren't color graded for HDR, so they look washed out.

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New settings are much more natural. Past some very minor clouding in the top corners of the set, this TV's picture is just perfection. Roku works much better than Samsung's Tizen, no more locking up and having to reset the TV. I just wish the stand were a little more sturdy. gonna have to find a way to anchor it so my kids don't knock it over.

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My guess is that although HDR is initiated on your TV, the menus aren't color graded for HDR, so they look washed out.
That sounds logical.

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New settings are much more natural. Past some very minor clouding in the top corners of the set, this TV's picture is just perfection. Roku works much better than Samsung's Tizen, no more locking up and having to reset the TV. I just wish the stand were a little more sturdy. gonna have to find a way to anchor it so my kids don't knock it over.



That sounds logical.
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The 55P607 was first available from Amazon on May 19, 2017. I don't recall if it was available elsewhere earlier.
Any idea when BestBuy's model hit? I am hoping if it is early enough I may be able to exchange.

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Maybe something like this.
Tht's not a bad idea. Amazon has a whole bunch for around $20. Thank's for the tip.

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Any idea when BestBuy's model hit? I am hoping if it is early enough I may be able to exchange.


It was available at Best Buy at roughly the same time as Amazon. I bought one from Amazon on May 25th, 2017, but it had major screen flaws and I returned it. I then bought one from Best Buy on May 28th.

I would think that unless a retailer has been promised an exclusive sales period that they should be available almost everywhere at the same time.

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Anyone else noticing that when first powering on the TV sometimes the FALD doesn't start working until you turn it off and turn it back on again? It's pretty annoying
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Does anyone like using the “Zoom” picture size during movies with black bars? I just started doing it and it’s actually quite enjoyable. Part of the image is cut on the edges but it doesn’t seem to make a huge loss on the overall image.


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No. Just you. Personally, I like seeing the entire image and have absolutely no qualms about the black bars. They're there for a reason.

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No. Just you. Personally, I like seeing the entire image and have absolutely no qualms about the black bars. They're there for a reason.


While I agree with the first half of your statement, the second part not so much.

They are there because they film in a wider aspect ratio. That is not for a reason IMO it’s strictly because folks can’t get together and agree on one standard.

I dream of a day when I can actually watch all of my movies in full screen again .

IMO they should just always film in 16:9 and make it the standard all around.

I can’t sacrifice missing part of the picture but I would love to have a bigger picture on my screen like when watching natural 16:9 content, rather than the picture only using 2/3 of the screen (and less).

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While I agree with the first half of your statement, the second part not so much.

They are there because they film in a wider aspect ratio. That is not for a reason IMO it’s strictly because folks can’t get together and agree on one standard.

I dream of a day when I can actually watch all of my movies in full screen again .

IMO they should just always film in 16:9 and make it the standard all around.

I can’t sacrifice missing part of the picture but I would love to have a bigger picture on my screen like when watching natural 16:9 content, rather than the picture only using 2/3 of the screen (and less).

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You need a constant height scope ratio projection screen and projector with zoom memory or even auto scope recognition. Then, you will see movies as they were meant to be seen as in the CinemaScope days of yore.

There is no one ratio "standard" because different movies have different visual aesthetics. Not all painting canvases are the same ratio either.

Cinematographers don't just adhere to the current ratio of a TV and make them all 16x9 because that's how the current HD and UHD displays are sized. They want to not make movies look like a TV show.

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Any updates on the xbox one x screen flickering issue?

When i turn the tv and xbox on for the first time in the morning the screen starts flickering and making a loud screech then gooes black and comes back on and flickers again.. To get this to stop i have to go into my xb1 settings, disable hdr, disable 422 and sometimes that works, other times i have to set it to 10Bit or 12Bit and then back to 8bit with hdr and 422 on for it to stop the flickering.. A few times ive had to do a full tv restart for it to stop. Its not flickering on the home screen so its hdmi or console..

I do have a 15 foot hdmi run but the cable was rated for 18gbps( amazon basic 2.0 hdmi) so it *SHOULD* be good enough..

Ive seen a few people have this issue on reddit, but again it could be a console or hdmi issue..
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You need a constant height scope ratio projection screen and projector with zoom memory or even auto scope recognition. Then, you will see movies as they were meant to be seen as in the CinemaScope days of yore.

There is no one ratio "standard" because different movies have different visual aesthetics. Not all painting canvases are the same ratio either.

Cinematographers don't just adhere to the current ratio of a TV and make them all 16x9 because that's how the current HD and UHD displays are sized. They want to not make movies look like a TV show.


But IMO they should. We all use 16:9, it is the TV standard and we are their intended audience. If you want to be artistic then that’s fine and for a special audience and they can use special players .


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Any updates on the xbox one x screen flickering issue?

When i turn the tv and xbox on for the first time in the morning the screen starts flickering and making a loud screech then gooes black and comes back on and flickers again.. To get this to stop i have to go into my xb1 settings, disable hdr, disable 422 and sometimes that works, other times i have to set it to 10Bit or 12Bit and then back to 8bit with hdr and 422 on for it to stop the flickering.. A few times ive had to do a full tv restart for it to stop. Its not flickering on the home screen so its hdmi or console..

I do have a 15 foot hdmi run but the cable was rated for 18gbps( amazon basic 2.0 hdmi) so it *SHOULD* be good enough..

Ive seen a few people have this issue on reddit, but again it could be a console or hdmi issue..


I haven’t had this issue. I have two Xbox one X’s. My wife and myself. My wife’s is using a 25 for hdmi cable to her TV (runs through the basement and back up). Mine is a 14 foot hdmi cable (Amazon basics high speed) and no issues with flickering on my TCL.


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Any updates on the xbox one x screen flickering issue?

When i turn the tv and xbox on for the first time in the morning the screen starts flickering and making a loud screech then gooes black and comes back on and flickers again.. To get this to stop i have to go into my xb1 settings, disable hdr, disable 422 and sometimes that works, other times i have to set it to 10Bit or 12Bit and then back to 8bit with hdr and 422 on for it to stop the flickering.. A few times ive had to do a full tv restart for it to stop. Its not flickering on the home screen so its hdmi or console..

I do have a 15 foot hdmi run but the cable was rated for 18gbps( amazon basic 2.0 hdmi) so it *SHOULD* be good enough..

Ive seen a few people have this issue on reddit, but again it could be a console or hdmi issue..
I started getting this the other day on my vizio p and one x after hooking up the new Belkin 2.1 cable. but after I soft reset the tv haven't seen it since
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Loving this TV thus far and the Roku OS is snappy.

Only thing I still see however or horizontal lines when it pans down on something sometimes. What are these?
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But IMO they should. We all use 16:9, it is the TV standard and we are their intended audience. If you want to be artistic then that’s fine and for a special audience and they can use special players .

But we’re not the intended audience; movies are made for the theater, home video is a secondary market.
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Loving this TV thus far and the Roku OS is snappy.

Only thing I still see however or horizontal lines when it pans down on something sometimes. What are these?
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So glad these threads exist. Just bought a 55P605 and using the Rtings settings I felt the picture just wasn't popping like my Samsung 55KU6300. But I am going to try reducing the gamma and contrast in the updated settings tonight.

Anyone use the Netflix app on their Xbox One S on this TV? The menu is completely washed out once it engages the HDR. I tried playing with the settings, but everything is what it should be. The content seems fine though, just thought it was odd.
guessing you're seeing this?

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Anyone else noticing that when first powering on the TV sometimes the FALD doesn't start working until you turn it off and turn it back on again? It's pretty annoying
No, but I did notice that my picture settings don't effect the menus until I go into something.

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guessing you're seeing this?
That looks right.

I have been tinkering a bit more. The Netflix app on the TV will not do 4K/DV for me at all. Highest I have seen it reach is 2K and it never engages the separate HDR settings. On my XB1S I can resolve the menu colors being washed out by going to home and back into the input, but then my content is dimmed by quite a bit. My wireless is strong and the VUDU app plays UHD with no problem at all. I am headed for an exchange soon if I can't resolve it.

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