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Maybe you are overlooking that 3D is kind of DEAD [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/IMG]
That must be why there are a
bunch of new 3D/4K projectors. Of course, 3D will always be dead for the Flat Earth Society.
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bunch of new 3D/4K projectors.
There was way much more than a bunch of 3D TVs...now there is non left and 3D blu-ray will soon follow.
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Of course, 3D will always be dead for the Flat Earth Society.
3D TV is ended and 3D blu-ray is at the end of its life cycle. Do you really think that they keep making 3D blu-rays for what is left, 3D projector crowd, only?

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I'm already chomping at the bit to see what 1080p 3D scaled up to 8k looks like. Scaled to 4k already looks great!


Studios keep producing 3D for those who presently have 3D displays as well as new ones selling now and those premiering at trade shows for the near future. Nothing wrong with 2yr old 2160 HDR 3D capable displays and I wouldn't consider them outdated at all. The smart folks who traded up (LoL) for cheap displays without 3D are the ones who complain about 3D still existing. They didn't want to spring the extra money for the addition of 3D and settled for less thinking the format was extinct. Now they are bummed every time someone mentions 3D and invent reasons why 3D fans shouldn't enjoy them. Meanwhile, 3D titles are slated for release into the next decade.

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I'm already chomping at the bit to see what 1080p 3D scaled up to 8k looks like. Scaled to 4k already looks great!


Studios keep producing 3D for those who presently have 3D displays as well as new ones selling now and those premiering at trade shows for the near future. Nothing wrong with 2yr old 2160 HDR 3D capable displays and I wouldn't consider them outdated at all. The smart folks who traded up (LoL) for cheap displays without 3D are the ones who complain about 3D still existing. They didn't want to spring the extra money for the addition of 3D and settled for less thinking the format was extinct. Now they are bummed every time someone mentions 3D and invent reasons why 3D fans shouldn't enjoy them. Meanwhile, 3D titles are slated for release into the next decade.
3D will still be around for the time being but it is, and always be a niche market. I don't see it really taking off like the industry wanted until quality 3D sets are produced that don't require any glasses at all. The next decade is only 2 years away, and titles that are "slated for release" were probably already in the works due to contractual agreements with the studios. I for one would consider 3D if the glasses issue, off-axis viewing, sensitivity to 3D in general, etc get worked out. I have a 3D blu-ray player and the original 3D release of Avatar that came with it. The movie looks great in 1080p, and I'd like to view it in 3D just to see what all the hoopla is about but I don't know anybody who has a 3D tv, and I have a couple of serious A/V friends.
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Studios keep producing 3D for those who presently have 3D displays as well as new ones selling now and those premiering at trade shows for the near future. Nothing wrong with 2yr old 2160 HDR 3D capable displays and I wouldn't consider them outdated at all. The smart folks who traded up (LoL) for cheap displays without 3D are the ones who complain about 3D still existing. They didn't want to spring the extra money for the addition of 3D and settled for less thinking the format was extinct. Now they are bummed every time someone mentions 3D and invent reasons why 3D fans shouldn't enjoy them. Meanwhile, 3D titles are slated for release into the next decade.
I do not mind 3D Blu-ray but it is pretty much a fact that 3D is slowly dying. It seems that the main reasons why 3D is still alive is that asians, in particular chinese love 3D and studio bosses/ a few directors who refuse to give up the format.
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The next decade may only be two years away but the list of slated titles was from years ago and holding true to its word still to this day. Here is one of many for this year and through 2022 for example.


https://www.cinemablend.com/news/172...-release-dates
http://cms.pro.boxoffice.com/statist...lease-calendar


What YOU see as a niche might be a requirement for others. What YOU consider issues until You would ever consider 3D inviting may agree with others but many who embrace 3D consider YOUR issues comical. I do.


Because YOU and YOUR serious A/V friends don't have 3D capability isn't an endorsement that others shouldn't have it either. To suggest if you do means you are not a serious A/V enthusiast is comical... again. I think a serious enthusiast has the capability to play every format there is but that's just my opinion.


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Like I said, 1080p scaled up to 2160p looks very, very nice (close to native resolution) and a definite resolution improvement. I'm convinced from scaling experience to 4k and assuming it will look even better 8k and I look forward to it... especially for my 1080p 3D titles already scaling to 2160p. I'm sorry. You nor no one else is going to convince me differently no matter what urban myth fake news (no matter how prevalent and respected) tells me it's so.

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If Samsung delivers on the Q9S at a reasonable price point, I would be very interested in a 75".

Given the success of the 2018 QLED's, and the announcement there will be a 65,75, and 82 " available shortly after IFA August 21,2018, it seems Samsung is looking to enter the 8K segment and be competitive.

I believe the pricing on the 2018 Q series may shed light on a more aggressive pricing stratagy from Samsung,which may be reflected in the Q9S pricing. I hope so..I very much look forward to seeing the Q9S models.
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The next decade may only be two years away but the list of slated titles was from years ago and holding true to its word still to this day. Here is one of many for this year and through 2022 for example.


https://www.cinemablend.com/news/172...-release-dates
http://cms.pro.boxoffice.com/statist...lease-calendar


What YOU see as a niche might be a requirement for others. What YOU consider issues until You would ever consider 3D inviting may agree with others but many who embrace 3D consider YOUR issues comical. I do.


Because YOU and YOUR serious A/V friends don't have 3D capability isn't an endorsement that others shouldn't have it either. To suggest if you do means you are not a serious A/V enthusiast is comical... again. I think a serious enthusiast has the capability to play every format there is but that's just my opinion.


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Like I said, 1080p scaled up to 2160p looks very, very nice (close to native resolution) and a definite resolution improvement. I'm convinced from scaling experience to 4k and assuming it will look even better 8k and I look forward to it... especially for my 1080p 3D titles already scaling to 2160p. I'm sorry. You nor no one else is going to convince me differently no matter what urban myth fake news (no matter how prevalent and respected) tells me it's so.
Wow. A little sensitive are we? All I'm saying is that 3D, at least in North America has not taken off as anticipated. If you like and embrace 3D, that's fine. It's not for me, at least not now, and most of the folks who I know feel the same way. Nobody is trying to convince you to change your opinion. Some of us just have a different opinion.
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I'm already chomping at the bit to see what 1080p 3D scaled up to 8k looks like. Scaled to 4k already looks great!


Studios keep producing 3D for those who presently have 3D displays as well as new ones selling now and those premiering at trade shows for the near future. Nothing wrong with 2yr old 2160 HDR 3D capable displays and I wouldn't consider them outdated at all. The smart folks who traded up (LoL) for cheap displays without 3D are the ones who complain about 3D still existing. They didn't want to spring the extra money for the addition of 3D and settled for less thinking the format was extinct. Now they are bummed every time someone mentions 3D and invent reasons why 3D fans shouldn't enjoy them. Meanwhile, 3D titles are slated for release into the next decade.
Very true. And every 2016 3D model sold out 100%. Last I heard, the 8K panels will nearly all be 3D capable. And Universal, who had stopped 3D BD discs in the U.S. are now back with the release of TOMB RAIDER 3D. And JURASSIC WORLD 3D is now up for pre-order. As is the long-awaited REVENGE OF THE CREATURE 3D in the new box set.



On the theatrical front AMC just signed a new contract with RealD for 3D through 2024.
From Cinema News: Re Jurassic World: FK - A massive $380 million has been generated by total 3D ticket sales and 28% of all 3D transactions have been purchased for RealD-equipped theatres, resulting in $105 million in RealD ticket sales.

Pre-order for the 3D edition now up at Amazon and BB.

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OF COURSE it's a niche market, But so are 4K discs, which are hardly taking the nation by storm. Some months back, I read on some board that people were cheering that Spider-Man Homecoming 4K had a 17% market share during it's first week of release. Break out the champagne! But wait...what was the market share for AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 on 3D disc during it's first week of release? 17%!!!
Yeah, 4K REALLY moved that needle up! Ya gotta laugh.

Ever notice that on every poll or comment about which format those who have both would prefer if they could only get a movie on just one of the 2 formats, it's always 3D that wins? And the consensus is usually close at or close to 100%. (There might even be such a poll on this site somewhere.)
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If Samsung delivers on the Q9S at a reasonable price point, I would be very interested in a 75".

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The comments here are hilarious, don’t you realize that the fact you’re on AVS you’re niche. The majority of Americans watch whatever their cable provider sends and still rents dvds. For example in my condo complex two people were selling DVD players for top dollar, for most when the box says 4k upscaling that’s good enough. 3d meh most haven’t seen it besides in the theater and have no desire to tackle glasses and the proper setup.

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Very true. And every 2016 3D model sold out 100%. Last I heard, the 8K panels will nearly all be 3D capable. And Universal, who had stopped 3D BD discs in the U.S. are now back with the release of TOMB RAIDER 3D. And it's probably a safe bet that JURASSIC WORLD will be released from them in 3D as well.

On the theatrical front AMC just signed a new contract with RealD for 3D through 2024.
What matters is wether or not a 3D transmitter is built into the TV which makes a 8K TV 3D capable. I do not think that just after every manufacturer stopped putting 3D transmitters into TVs they right away start putting them in again. Stopping is definitive, it means that at best it will take 5 to 10 years till they give it another try.
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8K TV Shipments To Reach 2 Million By 2020 !

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Just as the UHD/4K TV set market heats up, a research firm is predicting that the next wave — 8K — is not far behind.


With the debut of 8K TVs now making their way to the market by the end of 2018, business information provider IHS Markit says it expects less than 20,000 sets to be shipped globally by the end of this year, with more than 430,000 sets sold in 2019, eventually approaching 2 million units by 2020. The growth will be centered around sets 60-inches are larger, with 65 inch TVs accounting for more than half of the volume.
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“A research firm” lol

They better bring prices down even further on the large sets.

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I'm excited about 8K TV's now that we might get more 8K content in 2020! Here's all the 8K TV's in one room

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Am I the only one on this forum that still watches his 1080p Plasma and only reads about UHD, 4K and 8K?

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Haha, I’m exactly that person for now. We have two Panasonic plasma’s and a third Samsung F8500 up in our movie room.

I bit the bullet though and we’re having Sony’s 85” Z9G delivered on Monday so technically we skipped 4K displays entirely. I’m curious to see the Z9G in our environment. Based on my demo, I think the pluses will outweigh the minutes... especially the soft buzz andScreen burn in that I get from our f8500 that drives me a little nuts.
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8K? How could anyone ever have an enjoyable home theater experience with a mere 8K. No, best to hold out for 16 or 32K. This is the bare minimum, particularly for smaller displays and smartphones!

Although I make and edit films, often shot at 4K, and for time lapse above 8K, I'm perfectly content to watch home theater in WELL PRODUCED AND MASTERED 1080p on my 132" projector screen, from a distance of 17'. I only see 8K as being relevant from the standpoint of being able to do a lot of post production pan/zoom/tilt and then rendering for final product at 4K or below. No benefit to actual 8K displays for home theater viewing, that is, unless you're into sitting 1 or 2 feet from your screen. If so, then by all means

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Am I the only one on this forum that still watches his 1080p Plasma and only reads about UHD, 4K and 8K?

My main home theater is still in the DVD ages with only a DVD player and SD plasma.
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I figure my aging eyesight will soon cause me to sit closer and closer to the TV. So I'm looking forward to one day seeing up close (without embarrassment) all that 8K has to offer!

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How big would an 8KTV have to be and how close would I have to sit to it to notice an appreciable difference from a 4KTV? Given the biggest TV I could likely even fit in my apartment is 55", would there be any point to buy one over a 4KTV?
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How big would an 8KTV have to be and how close would I have to sit to it to notice an appreciable difference from a 4KTV? Given the biggest TV I could likely even fit in my apartment is 55", would there be any point to buy one over a 4KTV?


That’s a loaded question that always causes debate when there’s a resolution jump. Eventually the handy chart will be posted and everyone’s eyesight is different.
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I would rather watch a movie like "Casablanca" in 1080i, than some of the crap produced in the last [insert your own number] of years in 8K. Content is King in my opinion.
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That’s a loaded question that always causes debate when there’s a resolution jump. Eventually the handy chart will be posted and everyone’s eyesight is different.
I’m old enough to remember seeing articles whether 1080p was worth it over 720p

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