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ray0414 03-07-2018 09:44 AM


bigolyt 03-07-2018 09:47 AM

Power in the fiber optic cable??! Wow

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55811538)

which one is the qled which one is the oled .. cant hear what there saying

PhilB 03-07-2018 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SUperEd007 (Post 55811632)
which one is the qled which one is the oled .. cant hear what there saying

Judging by the stand, I'd say the Q9 qled is on top.

-phil

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PhilB (Post 55811672)
Judging by the stand, I'd say the Q9 qled is on top.

-phil

If thats the case the Qled blows Oled out of the water .. Way brighter more detail

ray0414 03-07-2018 10:06 AM

Here's a Q9 demo where a rep discusses new changes to the backlight system, which includes new anti blooming technology.



intermediatic 03-07-2018 10:08 AM

These seem amazing.

I love the idea of being able to replace my HDMI switcher with the One Connect box and to get Optical Audio out for my Hi-Fi stack without a separate box or two (we have an HDMI switch plus a Toslink switch now… too much stuff that can go wrong!).

There is limited space inside my wall and to replace all the cables with one thin cable seems incredible AND then you add ambient mode.

The only thing is that I'd hope for The Frame in 70 or 75" inch, they only have it in 65". We sit 12' away from the screen, so 70" is the minimum I'm willing to go for. Oh well. Guess we'll just have to deal.

bpmurr 03-07-2018 10:41 AM

Looking forward to Rtings.com getting the new Samsung lineup to test.

thunderbird1100 03-07-2018 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bpmurr (Post 55811926)
Looking forward to Rtings.com getting the new Samsung lineup to test.

Seems like they made big improvements to the upper range QLED (Q9, Q8). I'd like to see if they somehow managed to improve the edge lit local dimming on the Q6/Q7, Sony did a great job with the x930e's edge lit local dimming, I wonder if Samsung massively improved theirs from last year's debacle with the Q7-Q9 all having poor local dimming.

Also curious to see if they really did anything with the NU8000 vs. last year's MU8000 or it's just basically a rebrand.

ETERNIA FOREVER 03-07-2018 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55811426)

The person in this video says the q9fn will only come in 65 an 75 inch sizes while the person over at forbes says it will be available in a 55 inch also, anyone here know which person is correct ?

egrady 03-07-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ETERNIA FOREVER (Post 55811972)
The person in this video says the q9 will only come in 65 an 75 inch sizes while the person over at forbes says it will be available in a 55 inch also, anyone here know which person is correct ?


And ray0414 says the USA will get an 88" model.

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by thunderbird1100 (Post 55811954)
Seems like they made big improvements to the upper range QLED (Q9, Q8). I'd like to see if they somehow managed to improve the edge lit local dimming on the Q6/Q7, Sony did a great job with the x930e's edge lit local dimming, I wonder if Samsung massively improved theirs from last year's debacle with the Q7-Q9 all having poor local dimming.

Also curious to see if they really did anything with the NU8000 vs. last year's MU8000 or it's just basically a rebrand.


I'm guessing its just a rebrand as far as PQ with a couple of new features (not picture quality related).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETERNIA FOREVER (Post 55811972)
The person in this video says the q9 will only come in 65 an 75 inch sizes while the person over at forbes says it will be available in a 55 inch also, anyone here know which person is correct ?



as of right now the 55" is only confirmed for Europe. Which makes sense since Europe will not have the Q8 FALD version. So it looks like if you want a 55" FALD, USA gets the Q8 while Europe gets the Q9.

ETERNIA FOREVER 03-07-2018 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by egrady (Post 55812044)
And ray0414 says the USA will get an 88" model.

I have edited my post i am referring to the Q9FN model that is 4k, now there's a Q9SN 8k model that will be coming in 85 inches perhaps that is the one you are referring to.

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ETERNIA FOREVER (Post 55812080)
I have edited my post i am referring to the Q9FN model that is 4k, now there's a Q9SN 8k model that will be coming in 85 inches perhaps that is the one you are referring to.

nope. theres 2 models.

88" Q9F

85" Q9S (coming 2nd half of the year to everywhere besides Korea, which gets 1st dibs).

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55812062)
Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderbird1100 (Post 55811954)
Seems like they made big improvements to the upper range QLED (Q9, Q8). I'd like to see if they somehow managed to improve the edge lit local dimming on the Q6/Q7, Sony did a great job with the x930e's edge lit local dimming, I wonder if Samsung massively improved theirs from last year's debacle with the Q7-Q9 all having poor local dimming.

Also curious to see if they really did anything with the NU8000 vs. last year's MU8000 or it's just basically a rebrand.


I'm guessing its just a rebrand as far as PQ with a couple of new features (not picture quality related).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETERNIA FOREVER (Post 55811972)
The person in this video says the q9 will only come in 65 an 75 inch sizes while the person over at forbes says it will be available in a 55 inch also, anyone here know which person is correct ?



as of right now the 55" is only confirmed for Europe. Which makes sense since Europe will not have the Q8 FALD version. So it looks like if you want a 55" FALD, USA gets the Q8 while Europe gets the Q9.

By the looks of it though the q9 will have more nits better black levels and fald I would consider this a major boost to pq

imagic 03-07-2018 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by simolnx (Post 55810532)
Please ask if leds are located on the side for Q6/Q7...

Thank you :)

Bottom edgelit for those models.

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by imagic (Post 55812174)
Bottom edgelit for those models.

disappointing they didn't "upgrade" those models to side edge lit since the q9 and q8 are now FALD.


any idea if quantum dot color filters are being used?

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 11:25 AM

So the QLEDS are official now, but where is the talk about the QDCF that Samsung was supposed to be pushing for this year's release?

Still I think Samsung's Q8/Q9 will jump ahead of Sony's X900F offerings this round, and offer a better FALD product.

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 11:34 AM


NetRep 03-07-2018 11:37 AM

I hope they add ambient mode to 2017 qled models too via firmware upgrade

ETERNIA FOREVER 03-07-2018 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55812150)
nope. theres 2 models.

88" Q9F

85" Q9S (coming 2nd half of the year to everywhere besides Korea, which gets 1st dibs).

Thank you good sir for the clarification

ggw2000 03-07-2018 11:42 AM

New to looking at Samsung as I have always been a Sony person for TVs. Couple of questions:

I see the 75Q9FN uses a one connect box? I assume this is a separate box the you input all your devices to and then run a single cable to the TV? That single cable appears to be for 2018 looks to be quite thin and carries both data and power to the TV. Don't see anything to indicate the length of the single cable?
Looking at what the list is for the TV it appears that I could get a Sony 75Z9D for about the same price. I wonder if the PQ/Upscaling could come close to the Sony?
At this point there doesn't seem to be much info on the differences between the Q8 & Q9 in the 75" size that I can find.
Thoughts?

Gerry

tdx 03-07-2018 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55812150)
nope. theres 2 models.

88" Q9F

85" Q9S (coming 2nd half of the year to everywhere besides Korea, which gets 1st dibs).

Is there any info about the prices of these sets?

bekindrewind 03-07-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55812150)
nope. theres 2 models.

88" Q9F

85" Q9S (coming 2nd half of the year to everywhere besides Korea, which gets 1st dibs).

88" Q9F ... model QE88Q9FN?

Keithian 03-07-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55811382)
88"Q9F confirmed for USA only.

OK you completed half your job of making me happy with your 88" info. Now complete your other half with much better pricing than last year for the same size :-) lol. Thanks for the information. First thing I was looking for as I read through this thread for the first time.

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggw2000 (Post 55812350)
New to looking at Samsung as I have always been a Sony person for TVs. Couple of questions:

I see the 75Q9FN uses a one connect box? I assume this is a separate box the you input all your devices to and then run a single cable to the TV? That single cable appears to be for 2018 looks to be quite thin and carries both data and power to the TV. Don't see anything to indicate the length of the single cable?
Looking at what the list is for the TV it appears that I could get a Sony 75Z9D for about the same price. I wonder if the PQ/Upscaling could come close to the Sony?
At this point there doesn't seem to be much info on the differences between the Q8 & Q9 in the 75" size that I can find.
Thoughts?

Gerry

The new cable comes in options of 5M or 15M (about 45 feet). The Q8 does not have the one connect box option.

I believe the 2018 Q9 will be further advanced than the Z9D because it will have better viewing angles and a larger color volume as well as a much better anti glare technology applied to the panel. We'll see some head to head comparisons very soon. The Q9 is supposed to have twice the amount of zones as the Q8.

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Originally Posted by tdx (Post 55812352)
Is there any info about the prices of these sets?



not yet. Robert Zohn from Value Electronics has confirmed the tv but says he doesn't have a price yet. itll be interesting to see if Samsung reflects their new pricing with the 88" tv.

frank xbe 03-07-2018 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by imagic (Post 55810048)
At 11 am today, Samsung will officially unveil its 2018 TV lineup, including its latest QLEDs, in New York City. I am currently on a train headed there despite the impending storm. If all goes well, I will have coverage of this event to share (after I make it home in a rageing noreaster, that is). :eek:

Will there be a USA Q8F line?

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank xbe (Post 55812454)
Will there be a USA Q8F line?



Yes and it will be FALD, with half the dimming zones of the Q9 and not quite as bright. FlatpanelsHD leaked the prices last night. the 65" is $2999.

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 12:05 PM

Now how are the viewing angles compared to 2016 and 2017 models.. the 2016 Ks line viewing angles are horrible.. Have they improved .. Close to Oled .. How does the q9f price compare to the 65 inch Oled c series...

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUperEd007 (Post 55812544)
Now how are the viewing angles compared to 2016 and 2017 models.. the 2016 Ks line viewing angles are horrible.. Have they improved .. Close to Oled .. How does the q9f price compare to the 65 inch Oled c series...

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...v-010118-22021

The 2018 Q9 series (65" $3799.00) looks to be priced close to LG's C8 series OLED's for now, but I expect the 65" Q9 to be equally priced as the 65" C8.

The C8 series will come in 55-, 65- and 77-inch versions, which will cost $2,500, $3,500 and $9,000.


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