AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews (https://www.avsforum.com/forum/)
-   LCD Flat Panel Displays (https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/)
-   -   Samsung Launches 2018 QLED and 4K TVs (https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/2962070-samsung-launches-2018-qled-4k-tvs.html)

imagic 03-07-2018 05:55 AM

Samsung Launches 2018 QLED and 4K TVs
 
At 11 am today, Samsung will officially unveil its 2018 TV lineup, including its latest QLEDs, in New York City. I am currently on a train headed there despite the impending storm. If all goes well, I will have coverage of this event to share (after I make it home in a rageing noreaster, that is). :eek:

Update... Althiugh I am stuck on a train due to the weather, Scott Wilkinson put together a post about the 2018 Samsungs. Click this link to read it: https://www.avsforum.com/2018-samsung...bars-unveiled/

Here's Samsung's Scott Cohen given a rundown of the 2018 QLED lineup's features:


rlindo 03-07-2018 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imagic (Post 55810048)
At 11 am today, Samsung will officially unveil its 2018 TV lineup, including its latest QLEDs, in New York City. I am currently on a train headed and there despite the impending storm. If all goes well, I will have coverage of this event to share (after I make it home in a rageing noreaster, that is). :eek:

Hope you won't run into any problems and be safe.

BFJ 96 03-07-2018 06:16 AM

Safe travels.. I'm in NYC and expected to get pretty bad in the next couple of hours

Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk

thunderbird1100 03-07-2018 06:57 AM

Amazon (of all places) leaked the QLED line yesterday, Vincent Teoh made a video.

Q9 and Q8 will be FALD, there will also be a Q7 and Q6. Q9 with more zones over Q8. Q7 and Q6 will continue to be edge lit with local dimming, Q7 with more dimmable zones than Q6.

Pricing was way less than the start of the 2017 QLED sets. 65" Q9 is now starting at just $3,799. The 65" Q6 just $2,199. There's a 75" Q6 for $3,499.

teachsac 03-07-2018 07:00 AM

Please be reminded that retail links are not permitted in the general forum areas.

Quote:

No street price talk or retail links please.

Cleveland Plasma 03-07-2018 07:05 AM

We will see how pricey the 75" plus FALD sets are......

imagic 03-07-2018 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderbird1100 (Post 55810394)
Amazon (of all places) leaked the QLED line yesterday, Vincent Teoh made a video.

Q9 and Q8 will be FALD, there will also be a Q7 and Q6. Q9 with more zones over Q8. Q7 and Q6 will continue to be edge lit with local dimming, Q7 with more dimmable zones than Q6.

Pricing was way less than the start of the 2017 QLED sets. 65" Q9 is now starting at just $3,799. The 65" Q6 just $2,199. There's a 75" Q6 for $3,499.

Lol, so be it. I'll have pretty pictures anyhow.

simolnx 03-07-2018 07:20 AM

Please ask if leds are located on the side for Q6/Q7...

Thank you :)

Sanookdi 03-07-2018 07:35 AM

Is there a live stream of the event?

rlindo 03-07-2018 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanookdi (Post 55810612)
Is there a live stream of the event?

https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-...reaming-video/

ray0414 03-07-2018 07:57 AM


ray0414 03-07-2018 08:26 AM

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1520438017

The Q8 will not be FALD in Europe, but fald everywhere else.

ray0414 03-07-2018 08:30 AM

Looks like Samsung will offer the FALD Q9 55"model. (might be region specific)


https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarc.../#175d9ef141cd

rlindo 03-07-2018 08:35 AM

This ambient mode stuff is pretty nifty.

I can't believe I am watching a press conference on a TV line...

3dprojector 03-07-2018 08:50 AM

Is the Color Matrix Filter replaced with QD?

Sanookdi 03-07-2018 08:52 AM

Sounds like the Q8FN will compete with the Sony 900F. This is going to be interesting!

BESLC 03-07-2018 09:00 AM

I watched the livestream, unless I did not hear correctly the full lineup including the Q9S will ship starting next month. The "WALL" later this year with Micro Led technology .

ray0414 03-07-2018 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BESLC (Post 55811222)
I watched the livestream, unless I did not hear correctly the full lineup including the Q9S will ship starting next month. The "WALL" later this year with Micro Led technology .


I believe it will Launch in Korea 1st, and everywhere else in the 2nd half of this year.

rlindo 03-07-2018 09:13 AM

Too bad they didn't spend more time talking about the tech and improvements when it comes to PQ and less on the "smart tv" stuff which by the way, is a term I hate.

I'd love to go off on the NYT partnership yet I'll keep that to myself. It does cement my decision to go for an OLED as my next set rather than consider this Q9F so I guess I can thank Samsung for making the decision easier.

player002 03-07-2018 09:14 AM

I wonder how many zones the Q9 and Q8 have?

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BESLC (Post 55811222)
I watched the livestream, unless I did not hear correctly the full lineup including the Q9S will ship starting next month. The "WALL" later this year with Micro Led technology .

wow and we all thought the micro led was a prototype and that we wouldn't see it for years .. Well surprise surprise .. Micro Led may just be a thing in 5 years affordable and beating out Oled ..

player002 03-07-2018 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlindo (Post 55811296)
Too bad they didn't spend more time talking about the tech and improvements when it comes to PQ and less on the "smart tv" stuff which by the way, is a term I hate.

I'd love to go off on the NYT partnership yet I'll keep that to myself. It does cement my decision to go for an OLED as my next set rather than consider this Q9F so I guess I can thank Samsung for making the decision easier.

I have an Oled could not be any happier. I do think that Q9 and Q8 will have excellent PQ though. The Micro LED sets though should have an image quality to revival OLED.

BreakPoint 03-07-2018 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55811242)
I believe it will Launch in Korea 1st, and everywhere else in the 2nd half of this year.

According to some retailers (Value Electronics), they expect the Q9F and Q7 to be available Apr. 16. The Q9S later in the year. No word on the Q8 or Q6.

BESLC 03-07-2018 09:20 AM

Samsung site currently does not list the Q9S in the lineup.

I agree with above posts that the reveal was short on tech specs.

Sanookdi 03-07-2018 09:21 AM

Some early first-look and hands-on videos slowly filtering on to youtube.

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rlindo (Post 55811296)
Too bad they didn't spend more time talking about the tech and improvements when it comes to PQ and less on the "smart tv" stuff which by the way, is a term I hate.

I'd love to go off on the NYT partnership yet I'll keep that to myself. It does cement my decision to go for an OLED as my next set rather than consider this Q9F so I guess I can thank Samsung for making the decision easier.

Actually heres the link

https://www.google.nl/amp/s/www.forb...-revealed/amp/

Samsung 2018 QLED TVs: Full Details Finally Revealed

As for the q9 the pq has to be better.. First its Fald, 2000 nits peak is achieved, better black levels.. I dont know about that I think this set will compete with Oleds.. Oleds cant even reach half the amount of nits as the Samsung's.. There still stuck at under 1000k

Samsung's Q9FN TVs use direct LED lighting with local dimming. Which is a good thing
Also Hdr10 with Samsungs software it can convert to HDR10 +

ray0414 03-07-2018 09:23 AM

88"Q9F confirmed for USA only.

ray0414 03-07-2018 09:28 AM


SUperEd007 03-07-2018 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55811426)

there you go the q9 will compete with the Oled.. Theres some serious competion I was leaning Oled hmmm this has me sold that i have to take a closer look at this Q9... 2000 nits wow fald great black levels ...

ray0414 03-07-2018 09:42 AM


ray0414 03-07-2018 09:44 AM


bigolyt 03-07-2018 09:47 AM

Power in the fiber optic cable??! Wow

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55811538)

which one is the qled which one is the oled .. cant hear what there saying

PhilB 03-07-2018 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUperEd007 (Post 55811632)
which one is the qled which one is the oled .. cant hear what there saying

Judging by the stand, I'd say the Q9 qled is on top.

-phil

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilB (Post 55811672)
Judging by the stand, I'd say the Q9 qled is on top.

-phil

If thats the case the Qled blows Oled out of the water .. Way brighter more detail

ray0414 03-07-2018 10:06 AM

Here's a Q9 demo where a rep discusses new changes to the backlight system, which includes new anti blooming technology.



intermediatic 03-07-2018 10:08 AM

These seem amazing.

I love the idea of being able to replace my HDMI switcher with the One Connect box and to get Optical Audio out for my Hi-Fi stack without a separate box or two (we have an HDMI switch plus a Toslink switch now… too much stuff that can go wrong!).

There is limited space inside my wall and to replace all the cables with one thin cable seems incredible AND then you add ambient mode.

The only thing is that I'd hope for The Frame in 70 or 75" inch, they only have it in 65". We sit 12' away from the screen, so 70" is the minimum I'm willing to go for. Oh well. Guess we'll just have to deal.

bpmurr 03-07-2018 10:41 AM

Looking forward to Rtings.com getting the new Samsung lineup to test.

thunderbird1100 03-07-2018 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpmurr (Post 55811926)
Looking forward to Rtings.com getting the new Samsung lineup to test.

Seems like they made big improvements to the upper range QLED (Q9, Q8). I'd like to see if they somehow managed to improve the edge lit local dimming on the Q6/Q7, Sony did a great job with the x930e's edge lit local dimming, I wonder if Samsung massively improved theirs from last year's debacle with the Q7-Q9 all having poor local dimming.

Also curious to see if they really did anything with the NU8000 vs. last year's MU8000 or it's just basically a rebrand.

ETERNIA FOREVER 03-07-2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55811426)

The person in this video says the q9fn will only come in 65 an 75 inch sizes while the person over at forbes says it will be available in a 55 inch also, anyone here know which person is correct ?

egrady 03-07-2018 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETERNIA FOREVER (Post 55811972)
The person in this video says the q9 will only come in 65 an 75 inch sizes while the person over at forbes says it will be available in a 55 inch also, anyone here know which person is correct ?


And ray0414 says the USA will get an 88" model.

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderbird1100 (Post 55811954)
Seems like they made big improvements to the upper range QLED (Q9, Q8). I'd like to see if they somehow managed to improve the edge lit local dimming on the Q6/Q7, Sony did a great job with the x930e's edge lit local dimming, I wonder if Samsung massively improved theirs from last year's debacle with the Q7-Q9 all having poor local dimming.

Also curious to see if they really did anything with the NU8000 vs. last year's MU8000 or it's just basically a rebrand.


I'm guessing its just a rebrand as far as PQ with a couple of new features (not picture quality related).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETERNIA FOREVER (Post 55811972)
The person in this video says the q9 will only come in 65 an 75 inch sizes while the person over at forbes says it will be available in a 55 inch also, anyone here know which person is correct ?



as of right now the 55" is only confirmed for Europe. Which makes sense since Europe will not have the Q8 FALD version. So it looks like if you want a 55" FALD, USA gets the Q8 while Europe gets the Q9.

ETERNIA FOREVER 03-07-2018 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by egrady (Post 55812044)
And ray0414 says the USA will get an 88" model.

I have edited my post i am referring to the Q9FN model that is 4k, now there's a Q9SN 8k model that will be coming in 85 inches perhaps that is the one you are referring to.

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETERNIA FOREVER (Post 55812080)
I have edited my post i am referring to the Q9FN model that is 4k, now there's a Q9SN 8k model that will be coming in 85 inches perhaps that is the one you are referring to.

nope. theres 2 models.

88" Q9F

85" Q9S (coming 2nd half of the year to everywhere besides Korea, which gets 1st dibs).

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55812062)
Quote:

Originally Posted by thunderbird1100 (Post 55811954)
Seems like they made big improvements to the upper range QLED (Q9, Q8). I'd like to see if they somehow managed to improve the edge lit local dimming on the Q6/Q7, Sony did a great job with the x930e's edge lit local dimming, I wonder if Samsung massively improved theirs from last year's debacle with the Q7-Q9 all having poor local dimming.

Also curious to see if they really did anything with the NU8000 vs. last year's MU8000 or it's just basically a rebrand.


I'm guessing its just a rebrand as far as PQ with a couple of new features (not picture quality related).

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETERNIA FOREVER (Post 55811972)
The person in this video says the q9 will only come in 65 an 75 inch sizes while the person over at forbes says it will be available in a 55 inch also, anyone here know which person is correct ?



as of right now the 55" is only confirmed for Europe. Which makes sense since Europe will not have the Q8 FALD version. So it looks like if you want a 55" FALD, USA gets the Q8 while Europe gets the Q9.

By the looks of it though the q9 will have more nits better black levels and fald I would consider this a major boost to pq

imagic 03-07-2018 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simolnx (Post 55810532)
Please ask if leds are located on the side for Q6/Q7...

Thank you :)

Bottom edgelit for those models.

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imagic (Post 55812174)
Bottom edgelit for those models.

disappointing they didn't "upgrade" those models to side edge lit since the q9 and q8 are now FALD.


any idea if quantum dot color filters are being used?

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 11:25 AM

So the QLEDS are official now, but where is the talk about the QDCF that Samsung was supposed to be pushing for this year's release?

Still I think Samsung's Q8/Q9 will jump ahead of Sony's X900F offerings this round, and offer a better FALD product.

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 11:34 AM


NetRep 03-07-2018 11:37 AM

I hope they add ambient mode to 2017 qled models too via firmware upgrade

ETERNIA FOREVER 03-07-2018 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55812150)
nope. theres 2 models.

88" Q9F

85" Q9S (coming 2nd half of the year to everywhere besides Korea, which gets 1st dibs).

Thank you good sir for the clarification

ggw2000 03-07-2018 11:42 AM

New to looking at Samsung as I have always been a Sony person for TVs. Couple of questions:

I see the 75Q9FN uses a one connect box? I assume this is a separate box the you input all your devices to and then run a single cable to the TV? That single cable appears to be for 2018 looks to be quite thin and carries both data and power to the TV. Don't see anything to indicate the length of the single cable?
Looking at what the list is for the TV it appears that I could get a Sony 75Z9D for about the same price. I wonder if the PQ/Upscaling could come close to the Sony?
At this point there doesn't seem to be much info on the differences between the Q8 & Q9 in the 75" size that I can find.
Thoughts?

Gerry

tdx 03-07-2018 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55812150)
nope. theres 2 models.

88" Q9F

85" Q9S (coming 2nd half of the year to everywhere besides Korea, which gets 1st dibs).

Is there any info about the prices of these sets?

bekindrewind 03-07-2018 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55812150)
nope. theres 2 models.

88" Q9F

85" Q9S (coming 2nd half of the year to everywhere besides Korea, which gets 1st dibs).

88" Q9F ... model QE88Q9FN?

Keithian 03-07-2018 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55811382)
88"Q9F confirmed for USA only.

OK you completed half your job of making me happy with your 88" info. Now complete your other half with much better pricing than last year for the same size :-) lol. Thanks for the information. First thing I was looking for as I read through this thread for the first time.

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggw2000 (Post 55812350)
New to looking at Samsung as I have always been a Sony person for TVs. Couple of questions:

I see the 75Q9FN uses a one connect box? I assume this is a separate box the you input all your devices to and then run a single cable to the TV? That single cable appears to be for 2018 looks to be quite thin and carries both data and power to the TV. Don't see anything to indicate the length of the single cable?
Looking at what the list is for the TV it appears that I could get a Sony 75Z9D for about the same price. I wonder if the PQ/Upscaling could come close to the Sony?
At this point there doesn't seem to be much info on the differences between the Q8 & Q9 in the 75" size that I can find.
Thoughts?

Gerry

The new cable comes in options of 5M or 15M (about 45 feet). The Q8 does not have the one connect box option.

I believe the 2018 Q9 will be further advanced than the Z9D because it will have better viewing angles and a larger color volume as well as a much better anti glare technology applied to the panel. We'll see some head to head comparisons very soon. The Q9 is supposed to have twice the amount of zones as the Q8.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdx (Post 55812352)
Is there any info about the prices of these sets?



not yet. Robert Zohn from Value Electronics has confirmed the tv but says he doesn't have a price yet. itll be interesting to see if Samsung reflects their new pricing with the 88" tv.

frank xbe 03-07-2018 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imagic (Post 55810048)
At 11 am today, Samsung will officially unveil its 2018 TV lineup, including its latest QLEDs, in New York City. I am currently on a train headed there despite the impending storm. If all goes well, I will have coverage of this event to share (after I make it home in a rageing noreaster, that is). :eek:

Will there be a USA Q8F line?

ray0414 03-07-2018 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frank xbe (Post 55812454)
Will there be a USA Q8F line?



Yes and it will be FALD, with half the dimming zones of the Q9 and not quite as bright. FlatpanelsHD leaked the prices last night. the 65" is $2999.

SUperEd007 03-07-2018 12:05 PM

Now how are the viewing angles compared to 2016 and 2017 models.. the 2016 Ks line viewing angles are horrible.. Have they improved .. Close to Oled .. How does the q9f price compare to the 65 inch Oled c series...

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUperEd007 (Post 55812544)
Now how are the viewing angles compared to 2016 and 2017 models.. the 2016 Ks line viewing angles are horrible.. Have they improved .. Close to Oled .. How does the q9f price compare to the 65 inch Oled c series...

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...v-010118-22021

The 2018 Q9 series (65" $3799.00) looks to be priced close to LG's C8 series OLED's for now, but I expect the 65" Q9 to be equally priced as the 65" C8.

The C8 series will come in 55-, 65- and 77-inch versions, which will cost $2,500, $3,500 and $9,000.

ray0414 03-07-2018 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptinCrunch (Post 55812586)
https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...v-010118-22021

The 2018 Q9 series (65" $3799.00) looks to be priced close to LG's C8 series OLED's.

The C8 series will come in 55-, 65- and 77-inch versions, which will cost $2,500, $3,500 and $9,000.



the 75" Q9 may be the best of both worlds, launching at $5999. It *should* have the #1 combo of blacks and viewing angles on LCD tvs.

yahknow1 03-07-2018 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55812400)
The Q8 does not have the one connect box option.


Does the Q8 at least have the old one connect system? The one that has everything EXCEPT power?

This is the whole reason I was waiting to see these televisions, I don't really need the power to go through the cable but I do need the rest of the signals.

ray0414 03-07-2018 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yahknow1 (Post 55812714)
Does the Q8 at least have the old one connect system? The one that has everything EXCEPT power?

This is the whole reason I was waiting to see these televisions, I don't really need the power to go through the cable but I do need the rest of the signals.



nope. I read that all connections on the Q8 are on the actual tv. sneaky Samsung!


because of this, the Q8 is a little thicker than the q9. you can do a 360 spin of these tvs on the Samsung.com link above!

frank xbe 03-07-2018 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptinCrunch (Post 55812270)
Samsung 2018 QLED TV Q9F Hands On with Digital Trends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaCskHbdCzQ

watching it on YouTube on my usa 55KS8000 now.:)

player002 03-07-2018 12:39 PM

Gotta say all reports point to pristine black levels and impressive off axis viewing.. Digital Trends said colors did not change off axis.. This anti-Blooming Tech seems to be Part Panel, Part coat and algorithm. If I had to guess, they found a way to isolate each pixels light from bleeding. They must have something in the structure of the pixel that prevents/filters light from going towards adjacent pixels. I really want a deep dive into this.

When Samsung unveiled Q9S I noticed in this video from Digital trends. That the blacks where extremely uniform with no signs of bloom or light bleed. They zoomed in very close was impressive.. I for one i'm glad Samsung has fixed the mistakes of 2017.. What makes OLED so great is the perfect blacks and contrast. If Samsung can achieve this with the fald sets Many will grab a Q9/Q8.

HDR+ looks to really catch up with DV HDR. DV HDR thus far looks better IMO. These new QLEDS appear to tone map much higher than 1000 nits now. This with increased light output and accuracy should give DV real competition.

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by player002 (Post 55812774)
Gotta say all reports point to pristine black levels and impressive off axis viewing.. Digital Trends said colors did not change off axis.. This anti-Blooming Tech seems to be Part Panel, Part coat and algorithm. If I had to guess, they found a way to isolate each pixels light from bleeding. They must have something in the structure of the pixel that prevents/filters light from going towards adjacent pixels. I really want a deep dive into this.

When Samsung unveiled Q9S I noticed in this video from Digital trends. That the blacks where extremely uniform with no signs of bloom or light bleed. They zoomed in very close was impressive.. I for one i'm glad Samsung has fixed the mistakes of 2017.. What makes OLED so great is the perfect blacks and contrast. If Samsung can achieve this with the fald sets Many will grab a Q9/Q8.

HDR+ looks to really catch up with DV HDR. DV HDR thus far looks better IMO. These new QLEDS appear to tone map much higher than 1000 nits now. This with increased light output and accuracy should give DV real competition.

I'm looking forward to the indepth reviews on ths Q9F as this looks to one up Sony's Z9. My only samsung is a 2010 LN46B750 with a 9 yr old ISF cali that still looks good sitting in the MBR. It's nice to Sammy get their act together and step it back up for 2018.

ray0414 03-07-2018 12:50 PM

Samsung is also using 16bit color mapping, which 1-ups sonys 14bit color mapping. Samsungs for years have been plagued with color banding at some points, looks to be fixed for this year as well.

ray0414 03-07-2018 12:57 PM

for those interested in info about the color filters. I asked nanosys on twitter and they said while they aren't allowed to comment on specific products, they did post this article for us to read. It basically has everything you need to know about quantum dots and where the tech is headed.


February 22nd, 2018

https://www.spectrum.ieee.org/consum...ntumdot-future


"Photo-Emissive QD displays aren't on the market yet. Expect to see mass production start later this year, with widespread availability in 2019"

MrRobotoPlus 03-07-2018 01:00 PM

1 Attachment(s)
i see blooming everywhere here

tmdorsey 03-07-2018 01:07 PM

I'm looking for a 75" set for my basement, so I'm very interested in seeing what Samsung comes with this year with the Q9 sets. It's looking like it's going to come down to either one of these 2018 Samsung sets or a Z9D as I don't see any of the 77"+ OLED sets getting anywhere near the price of the 75" LEDs.

TheZoof 03-07-2018 01:08 PM

Is it just me or did Samsung really drop the ball today? Only one 82" or large screen and it is their lowest quality?

Sigh. When are these companies going to realize we don't want gimmics or speakers or such. All we want is a perfect screen on the biggest size that will fit on our wall, under $5000.

Looks like I will just go with the 900F 85" or the bargain 82MU8000...

Too bad... :(

ray0414 03-07-2018 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRobotoPlus (Post 55812928)
i see blooming everywhere here



could be camera induced.. theres a video from last year of an oled tv that had horrible blooming. of course the blooming was caused by the camera, but its really funny to watch how the camera made the oled look. ill look for the video real quick.


EDIT:

Alright here you go. heres an OLED tv with "tons" of blooming. 100% camera induced. this is why you cant really trust blacks through a video. make sure you watch all the way to the end but its only 2 minutes long.



SUperEd007 03-07-2018 01:10 PM

Also heard for you gamers out there the Q* and q9 have VRR

ray0414 03-07-2018 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof (Post 55812982)
Is it just me or did Samsung really drop the ball today? Only one 82" or large screen and it is their lowest quality?

Sigh. When are these companies going to realize we don't want gimmics or speakers or such. All we want is a perfect screen on the biggest size that will fit on our wall, under $5000.

Looks like I will just go with the 900F 85" or the bargain 82MU8000...

Too bad... :(



It really helps if you read the articles posted.


88" Q9 FALD coming soon.

85" Q9S with microdimming coming later this year.

Sanookdi 03-07-2018 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof (Post 55812982)
Is it just me or did Samsung really drop the ball today? Only one 82" or large screen and it is their lowest quality?

Sigh. When are these companies going to realize we don't want gimmics or speakers or such. All we want is a perfect screen on the biggest size that will fit on our wall, under $5000.

Looks like I will just go with the 900F 85" or the bargain 82MU8000...

Too bad... :(

I thought the Q9FN is coming out in an 88-inch size?

Sanookdi 03-07-2018 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRobotoPlus (Post 55812928)
i see blooming everywhere here

Don't forget that these sets aren't calibrated. It's on torch mode (vivid). In another video from today a Samsung employee says the Q9 in the demo they were doing was on full backlight setting.

TheZoof 03-07-2018 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55813006)
It really helps if you read the articles posted.


88" Q9 FALD coming soon.

85" Q9S with microdimming coming later this year.


I believe it said USA only? I am not from the USA.

TheZoof 03-07-2018 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanookdi (Post 55813016)
I thought the Q9FN is coming out in an 88-inch size?

Yes but I thought it said USA only.

ray0414 03-07-2018 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof (Post 55813078)
I believe it said USA only? I am not from the USA.



make sure you post this information, its really helpful. where are you located? the Q9S should be a worldwide release.

Sanookdi 03-07-2018 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof (Post 55813082)
Yes but I thought it said USA only.

Maybe put your city or continent in your profile? That would help avoid these extraneous posts.

player002 03-07-2018 01:25 PM

4 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRobotoPlus (Post 55812928)
i see blooming everywhere here

That is the exposure from the camera.. Oled will do the same when you try to capture bright image inside black.. here is a pic of a close up on Q9s which uses the same tech(8k though)
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1520457816
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1520457816
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1520457816
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/attach...1&d=1520457816

TheZoof 03-07-2018 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55813006)
It really helps if you read the articles posted.


88" Q9 FALD coming soon.

85" Q9S with microdimming coming later this year.


You should also watch the press conference they presented. You would have the actual facts and not 'coming soon' information.

ray0414 03-07-2018 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof (Post 55813124)
You should also watch the press conference they presented. You would have the actual facts and not 'coming soon' information.


I watched it. I got the facts right based on what Samsung has told press members behind the scenes and from what HIGHLY REPUTABLE dealers have told me.

TheZoof 03-07-2018 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanookdi (Post 55813108)
Maybe put your city or continent in your profile? That would help avoid these extraneous posts.

I am not sure your meaning.

Unfortunately the point is that Samsung is not 'Globally' releasing a TV larger than 82" by Q2 of 2018. Does that not mean dropping the ball when the mass audience is looking for a large tv?

LG has announced an OLED 77" for under $10k.

Sony has an 85" with Dolby Vision for under $7k.

Samsung has dropped the ball on the global market.

Hopefully that makes my post clear.

Sorry for the confusion.

TheZoof 03-07-2018 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55813148)
I watched it. I got the facts right based on what Samsung has told press members behind the scenes and from what HIGHLY REPUTABLE dealers have told me.

That's fantastic for you. I will have to pay the toll next time I am in your vicinity.

It doesn't change the Samsung information that they will not have a high quality TV 85" or larger available to a global market before Q2 2018.

It's too bad was my point.

ray0414 03-07-2018 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof (Post 55813150)
Unfortunately the point is that Samsung is not 'Globally' releasing a TV larger than 82" by Q2 of 2018. Does that not mean dropping the ball when the mass audience is looking for a large tv?




80-90" tvs do NOT have a "mass audience". its a super small market.

my advice is to be patient. Did Sony "drop the ball" by not having a Z9D replacement ready for spring? the rumor is that its coming in the Fall. So if you want the best of the best tvs, your bet is to wait til the fall for the Q9S and Z9D replacements.

egrady 03-07-2018 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55813006)
It really helps if you read the articles posted.


88" Q9 FALD coming soon.

85" Q9S with microdimming coming later this year.


While the pricing of these two remains confidential, hopefully Samsung will disclose the price of the 8K 85" when the 4K 88" is released.

Sanookdi 03-07-2018 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheZoof (Post 55813150)
I am not sure your meaning.

I just mean putting your country or continent in your details under your avatar (picture). Since models aren't released in every country it would give us a better understanding of why you were complaining about Samsung only releasing an 82" size in the lowest Q-line. But since you didn't have that anywhere in your profile, some people thought you didn't read the article's stating that an 88" and 85" inches were being released in Q-lines.

Anyways, just trying to help to avoid pointless banter such as this :rolleyes:

ray0414 03-07-2018 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by player002 (Post 55813122)
That is the exposure from the camera.. Oled will do the same when you try to capture bright image inside black.. here is a pic of a close up on Q9s which uses the same tech(8k though)


The Q9S actually uses the micro-dimming technology (10,000 zones), whereas the Q9F is somewhere under 500 zones, but according to Robert Zohn, he was told the Q9F still has "thousands of leds".

player002 03-07-2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ray0414 (Post 55813242)
The Q9S actually uses the micro-dimming technology (10,000 zones), whereas the Q9F is somewhere under 500 zones, but according to Robert Zohn, he was told the Q9F still has "thousands of leds".

Ohhhh ya that's right. That Q9S really impressed me. Price will be very high for sure.

Keithian 03-07-2018 01:50 PM

This might be a stupid question, but can someone explain to me the purpose of the one connect cable where for most people who have high end TVs you would use a receiver that gives surround sound on 5-7 speakers. The receiver controls the inputs, not the TV where the TV only needs to have one HDMI connection to the receiver. What benefit is the one connect cable to those with a receiver? Is something wrong with my setup? I may have been out of it for the last 7 or so years since I purchased a TV lol.

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keithian (Post 55813324)
This might be a stupid question, but can someone explain to me the purpose of the one connect cable where for most people who have high end TVs you would use a receiver that gives surround sound on 5-7 speakers. The receiver controls the inputs, not the TV where the TV only needs to have one HDMI connection to the receiver. What benefit is the one connect cable to those with a receiver? Is something wrong with my setup? I may have been out of it for the last 7 or so years since I purchased a TV lol.

The Q9 has a seperate box that all your cables plug into, then the one cable connects that to the TV.



player002 03-07-2018 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUperEd007 (Post 55813000)
Also heard for you gamers out there the Q* and q9 have VRR

So wait only the Q8 and Q9 will have VRR?

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 02:12 PM

According to this Samsung rep this NEW wall mount is included in the box with the Q9F only? If so SUPER COOL to Samsung!


ggw2000 03-07-2018 02:18 PM

Does anyone know if all four HDMI inputs on the "one connect" box are FULL bandwidth? Kinda torques me off that Sony has gone to only 2 of the 4 inputs being full bandwidth..
Gerry

CaptinCrunch 03-07-2018 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ggw2000 (Post 55813522)
Does anyone know if all four HDMI inputs on the "one connect" box are FULL bandwidth? Kinda torques me off that Sony has gone to only 2 of the 4 inputs being full bandwidth..
Gerry

specs on the website don't say

https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...fnafxza/#specs

ray0414 03-07-2018 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by player002 (Post 55813404)
So wait only the Q8 and Q9 will have VRR?


Caleb Denison from Digital Trends is there and hes gonna find out and confirm for us. Stay tuned.

gmarceau 03-07-2018 02:44 PM

I'll be taking a hard look at the Q9F, especially if it gets into a price war with the C8, but this is really the tech that Samsung should have used last year- they took a detour with the 9 series using edgelit. Full array is good and Caleb was super excited although he always is for every freaking tv he reviews, but the micro dimming is reserved for the 8k set only, might trickle down to the smaller sizes next year.

Still no QDCF tech, which would be the real game changer if it's as good as Nanosys claims.

yahknow1 03-07-2018 03:17 PM

When did they say the 75Q9 was coming out? I don't see it listed on their website?

ray0414 03-07-2018 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yahknow1 (Post 55813878)
When did they say the 75Q9 was coming out? I don't see it listed on their website?



according to the preorder information on the Value Electronics website, both sizes will begin shipping April 16th. the NU series will begin shipping sooner, of course these dates are subject to change and in some cases they arrive sooner. but it appears both sizes will be around the same time.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:38 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.