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I didn't dumb my response down and tell you how to adjust a slider, which I can't see, equates to I "can't read?" Don't ever ask me for help again, if I could block you I would.

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Hours check?

Does anyone know how to check the lifetime usage hours???

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The HDR sliders are intended for you to adjust to your liking, optimally so you aren’t clipping whites or blacks, since there’s no standard for mastering HDR in games.
For gaming in SDR is the local dimming setting supposed to be set to the same level as any other SDR content, such as low or standard rather than high which is really meant for HDR?

Not sure if gaming is supposed to be treated same as video content calibration especially for the correct local dimming setting to use for them
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You need a meter connected to your PC/notebook, the TV through a serial cable USB converter and you need test patterns. If you use a disc for patterns it's a real PITA. You do one calibration for grayscale and a second one for color. You do need to do some fiddling so you'll spend some time getting the process.
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Well have to test and see how good that system is VS have a pro like Chad B or D-Nice stopping out....
No need to test, I'm sure Chad & D-Nice can do a better job. For me it's a hobby I enjoy

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For gaming in SDR is the local dimming setting supposed to be set to the same level as any other SDR content, such as low or standard rather than high which is really meant for HDR?



Not sure if gaming is supposed to be treated same as video content calibration especially for the correct local dimming setting to use for them
Local dimming on game mode? Good luck with that. Is completly broken. Each option is worst thanks the other. You can chose low Standart or high. It Will be a crap on any of them

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So i just got the TV, a 75". After wanting to enjoy a day or two, I did a dead pixel hunt. Definitely have one and some that maybe look a littly milky. I will take a look at some solid colors tonight as I consider a return. Grr. I dunno if I should just deal. Are the odds decent of getting a zero dead pixel unit? I have to rent a truck and find a friend to help me pack it up. I'm fairly OCD, but that said I use a 43" Sony x400D as a PC display with a couple dead. I have forgotten about them, but then again that only cost me a couple hundred smackers and was bought online open box. Might have played a factor. I got this one after a price match at Best Buy. Help!
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So i just got the TV, a 75". After wanting to enjoy a day or two, I did a dead pixel hunt. Definitely have one and some that maybe look a littly milky. I will take a look at some solid colors tonight as I consider a return. Grr. I dunno if I should just deal. Are the odds decent of getting a zero dead pixel unit? I have to rent a truck and find a friend to help me pack it up. I'm fairly OCD, but that said I use a 43" Sony x400D as a PC display with a couple dead. I have forgotten about them, but then again that only cost me a couple hundred smackers and was bought online open box. Might have played a factor. I got this one after a price match at Best Buy. Help!

Dead pixel or stuck pixel? Visible in content from typical seating positions? How is the panel otherwise?


If you had to go hunting for it and the panel is otherwise decent I would keep it rather than playing the lottery. Far too much hassle for a 1 in 8 million defect.

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Fellow forum guru Dee (player02) says his Samsung buddies have told him something big that's coming to 2018/2019 sets but he isn't allowed to say yet. Says it should be 2-3 weeks or so.

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Dead pixel or stuck pixel? Visible in content from typical seating positions? How is the panel otherwise?


If you had to go hunting for it and the panel is otherwise decent I would keep it rather than playing the lottery. Far too much hassle for a 1 in 8 million defect.
Quasi dead. Evaluating now, deep red and blue it lights up. Most every shade of yellow, gray etc, it's there. I can see it if I look for it from my seating position, but only if I look for it. It's about 2 inches from the bottom, 2/3's of the way across. I got home and checked it out against backgrounds. It does appear to be the only one!

I get the don't go versus do go looking for problems debate. Now with a dead pixel, I'd like to know if I keep it, it's "good" otherwise! Gray looks pretty good to me. There was a slight tinge of purple coming from the bottom of that one color, but it looked reasonably "uniform". Though I've had little hope for fixes before, seeing as how certain colors work, I am running some youtube thing that's flashing the rainbow. Beware of seizures indeed! I don't see too many people complaining about dead pixels here. I guess this is the two 4k screens I've bought in a row (so tiny on my 43" though), having one or more, so maybe it's a thing more often like it was earlier 1080p?! Hmm.. I'd certainly be worried about getting worse. Even just one in a worse position.

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For gaming in SDR is the local dimming setting supposed to be set to the same level as any other SDR content, such as low or standard rather than high which is really meant for HDR?

Not sure if gaming is supposed to be treated same as video content calibration especially for the correct local dimming setting to use for them
I have Local Dimming set to Low in SDR and High for HDR in my Game Mode settings, both look fine to me.
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Gee thanks,, lol.. I wasn't able to even get to that part yet lol

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Gee thanks,, lol.. I wasn't able to even get to that part yet lol
Yes, it's in the Service Menu under "SVC Info," where it will provide you with the panel display time in minutes.
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Yes, it's in the Service Menu under "SVC Info," where it will provide you with the panel display time in minutes.
I have no idea how to get into the service menu,, Is there some special code i need to type in? I only have 1 remote (the fancy brushed metal one)..

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I have no idea how to get into the service menu,, Is there some special code i need to type in? I only have 1 remote (the fancy brushed metal one)..
I have a macro in my programmable remote:

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So, id need a remote with numeric digits on it to access the service menu then?

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So, id need a remote with numeric digits on it to access the service menu then?
It would certainly do the trick. I don't use - never have - the smart remote so don't know if there's some way there. They do have some very cheap compatible Samsung dumb remotes from what I've read. I use a programmable one, URC MX-990.

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So, id need a remote with numeric digits on it to access the service menu then?

I don't know if there's a button combo available for the smart remote, but a basic Samsung remote can be had on Amazon for less than 10 dollars.

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Does the acess to the service menu remove the warranty? If we have a problem in future can they now that we have acess the menu?

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Hi guys, new forum member here. Just picked up the 65" Q9FN a few days ago after upgrading from a 60" KS8000. Overall I'm very happy with the Q9FN, FALD makes a massive difference and is a big step up over the edge lit KS series.

One thing that's concerning me though is some very strange clouding on the left of the screen. You can clearly make out a dark "curved plus sign" on the left of the screen and it shows up in all content (Netflix, Youtube, PS4 Pro, even TV menus). It's obviously way more visible at night on HDR content. The attached pics are all in HDR Movie mode (HDR10 not HDR+ mode), local dimming/brightness @ Max for HDR, warm 2, etc.). The brightness adjustment pic is in SDR with no source selected. I've got plenty of other pics with different content showing the same thing.

Has anyone here ever seen something like this? The clouding on the left remains even when the bright parts of the scene are on the right of the screen (the 2 moon pics show this best). I wasn't expecting perfect blacks and would expect some blooming around bright objects but this seems way out of spec for a flagship FALD panel.
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Hi guys, new forum member here. Just picked up the 65" Q9FN a few days ago after upgrading from a 60" KS8000. Overall I'm very happy with the Q9FN, FALD makes a massive difference and is a big step up over the edge lit KS series.

One thing that's concerning me though is some very strange clouding on the left of the screen. You can clearly make out a dark "curved plus sign" on the left of the screen and it shows up in all content (Netflix, Youtube, PS4 Pro, even TV menus). It's obviously way more visible at night on HDR content. The attached pics are all in HDR Movie mode (HDR10 not HDR+ mode), local dimming/brightness @ Max for HDR, warm 2, etc.). The brightness adjustment pic is in SDR with no source selected. I've got plenty of other pics with different content showing the same thing.

Has anyone here ever seen something like this? The clouding on the left remains even when the bright parts of the scene are on the right of the screen (the 2 moon pics show this best). I wasn't expecting perfect blacks and would expect some blooming around bright objects but this seems way out of spec for a flagship FALD panel.
Have you played around with the local dimming settings, or tried a different picture mode? Definitely not normal.

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Hi guys, new forum member here. Just picked up the 65" Q9FN a few days ago after upgrading from a 60" KS8000. Overall I'm very happy with the Q9FN, FALD makes a massive difference and is a big step up over the edge lit KS series.



One thing that's concerning me though is some very strange clouding on the left of the screen. You can clearly make out a dark "curved plus sign" on the left of the screen and it shows up in all content (Netflix, Youtube, PS4 Pro, even TV menus). It's obviously way more visible at night on HDR content. The attached pics are all in HDR Movie mode (HDR10 not HDR+ mode), local dimming/brightness @ Max for HDR, warm 2, etc.). The brightness adjustment pic is in SDR with no source selected. I've got plenty of other pics with different content showing the same thing.



Has anyone here ever seen something like this? The clouding on the left remains even when the bright parts of the scene are on the right of the screen (the 2 moon pics show this best). I wasn't expecting perfect blacks and would expect some blooming around bright objects but this seems way out of spec for a flagship FALD panel.
I would exchange that. My panel is completely black in a dark room. It actually disappears and I can't see it

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[QUOTE=wmoss35;57743804]Have you played around with the local dimming settings, or tried a different picture mode? Definitely not normal.
Thanks, the issue is present in all picture modes although I only use movie and standard. Local dimming is high and brightness max as the Netflix and Youtube sources are running in HDR10. The issue mainly presents itself in HDR sources due to the high peak brightness. Reducing the local dimming setting reduces the clouding a bit but then you lose the HDR impact as overall brightness is dropped. I can also reduce the brightness for an HDR source to around half and the issue is still really noticeable. It's also present in SDR at much lower brightness levels but not as noticeable.

[QUOTE=Brian_Barros;57743838]I would exchange that. My panel is completely black in a dark room. It actually disappears and I can't see it
I've sent these pics through to Samsung so they're sending a technician. Appreciate the feedback.

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