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When you guys are about to patch you TV with this firmware, can you test DSE (with a simple grey screen) before and after ? I'm very curious
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Zilch. I've been checking several times a day both US and Korean.

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Could care less about DTS. EArc I do.

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Without DTS or DTS HD or DTS -X you cannot get eARC
It is listed in the eARC standard !!!

Samsung lost customers because there was no DTS and lost money .
because of that screen!
dare not say that there will be an update to DTS or eARC in the future

So now they will fund screens for free ?
to give you a driver that costs a lot of money for free ? Why ?

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Any idea what percentage of current owners want eARC, or ARC for that matter? I for one don't need either.

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Any idea what percentage of current owners want eARC, or ARC for that matter? I for one don't need either.
I prefer to plug everything into my AVR so I get the best sound but this is my first smart TV that I'd rather use the built in apps. So for me eARC was a must.

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I prefer to plug everything into my AVR so I get the best sound but this is my first smart TV that I'd rather use the built in apps. So for me eARC was a must.

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I'm confused, which part of your current setup do you think you'd benefit from eARC? Your devices are plugged into your AVR and you want to use the on-board TV apps. The apps, like Netflix and Vudu, are still sending a DD+ stream with an Atmos layer.

I've said it before, the only thing that eARC benefits from is if you wanted to plug your 4k bluray player directly into your TV instead of your AVR.

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I prefer to plug everything into my AVR so I get the best sound but this is my first smart TV that I'd rather use the built in apps. So for me eARC was a must.

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The best viewing quality is through a USB connection, putting a Blue Ray movie or Ultra Blue Ray on a USB, you will get an amazing and better picture than any professional Blue Ray!
And from there to the sound reciever and everything works!

What is missing from this screen is just eARC

netflix or Amazon or Apple or any other service require eARC to get atmos !!!
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The best viewing quality is through a USB connection, putting a Blue Ray movie or Ultra Blue Ray on a USB, you will get an amazing and better picture than any professional Blue Ray!
And from there to the sound reciever and everything works!

What is missing from this screen is just eARC

netflix or Amazon or Apple or any other service require eARC to get atmos !!!
Let's see. Maximum speed USB-3.1 = 10GBs, HDMI 2.1 = 40GBs Yeah, who needs HDMI ...
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Let's see. Maximum speed USB-3.1 = 10GBs, HDMI 2.1 = 40GBs Yeah, who needs HDMI ...
Yeah I'm confused. Where did this guy get his info?

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The best viewing quality is through a USB connection, putting a Blue Ray movie or Ultra Blue Ray on a USB, you will get an amazing and better picture than any professional Blue Ray!
And from there to the sound reciever and everything works!

What is missing from this screen is just eARC

netflix or Amazon or Apple or any other service require eARC to get atmos !!!

This isn't true.
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This isn't hard, if you want eARC buy a TV with eARC. You shouldn't buy a TV based on a rumor that eARC will be added, that's on you, not Samsung.
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This isn't hard, if you want eARC buy a TV with eARC. You shouldn't buy a TV based on a rumor that eARC will be added, that's on you, not Samsung.
I didn't want eARC.....I bought this tv because at the time it had the best features and picture for an LCD. Just wouldn't be a bad update to get.

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So.... no eARC for the Q9FN then...

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TV: LG C9/C10, or Samsung Q90R, or Sony ...
Blu-ray: Panasonic UB820, or Pioneer Elite LX500, or Sony X800M
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So.... no eARC for the Q9FN then...
Not currently and no signs of it coming. I could see it coming for next year's model. But it won't trickle down

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I'm confused, which part of your current setup do you think you'd benefit from eARC? Your devices are plugged into your AVR and you want to use the on-board TV apps. The apps, like Netflix and Vudu, are still sending a DD+ stream with an Atmos layer.

I've said it before, the only thing that eARC benefits from is if you wanted to plug your 4k bluray player directly into your TV instead of your AVR.

My AVR (x8500h) does not support 1440p @ 120Hz. On my PC I get around that by using dual HDMI out for audio and video. That is less than ideal. But, further on, the X1X has two HDMI, but one is for input, so I can't do dual out and get all the new features they've added to the xbox.



So, eARC is the end of it...I won't have to send in my AVR for an HDMI 2.1 upgrade, since it was patched with eARC. It's the missing piece in this near perfect TV.


Not to mention...from what I've heard, VRR will not work through an AVR, so even with HDMI 2.1, I'm not sure how AVR's can suppport that feature. This was info by the HDFury guy...I believe.


Ultimately, I'll be pretty disappointed by Samsung if they can't patch it in...Denon was able to...this has been a pretty insane couple of years, with some amazing updates across devices (xbox especially)...I get why it's taking time, but it should happen. I do feel entitled, but that comes with driving a BMW of a TV.
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My AVR (x8500h) does not support 1440p @ 120Hz. On my PC I get around that by using dual HDMI out for audio and video. That is less than ideal. But, further on, the X1X has two HDMI, but one is for input, so I can't do dual out and get all the new features they've added to the xbox.



So, eARC is the end of it...I won't have to send in my AVR for an HDMI 2.1 upgrade, since it was patched with eARC. It's the missing piece in this near perfect TV.


Not to mention...from what I've heard, VRR will not work through an AVR, so even with HDMI 2.1, I'm not sure how AVR's can suppport that feature. This was info by the HDFury guy...I believe.
EARC solves allot of issues. To be able to plug into the tv and get maximum sound is amazing

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EARC solves allot of issues. To be able to plug into the tv and get maximum sound is amazing

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If you're using the TV's apps that's great, but if your sources are not in the TV, like in my case, there's no use for it. Nowadays there are too many choices to contend with .

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My AVR (x8500h) does not support 1440p @ 120Hz. On my PC I get around that by using dual HDMI out for audio and video. That is less than ideal. But, further on, the X1X has two HDMI, but one is for input, so I can't do dual out and get all the new features they've added to the xbox.



So, eARC is the end of it...I won't have to send in my AVR for an HDMI 2.1 upgrade, since it was patched with eARC. It's the missing piece in this near perfect TV.


Not to mention...from what I've heard, VRR will not work through an AVR, so even with HDMI 2.1, I'm not sure how AVR's can suppport that feature. This was info by the HDFury guy...I believe.


Ultimately, I'll be pretty disappointed by Samsung if they can't patch it in...Denon was able to...this has been a pretty insane couple of years, with some amazing updates across devices (xbox especially)...I get why it's taking time, but it should happen. I do feel entitled, but that comes with driving a BMW of a TV.
I get that the Xbox is also a use for eARC, but Brian was explicitly saying all his devices are plugged into his AVR, I was pointing out that for what he uses he would get no benefit from eARC.

eARC won’t magically uncompress the lossy Atmos on streaming sites.

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I get that the Xbox is also a use for eARC, but Brian was explicitly saying all his devices are plugged into his AVR, I was pointing out that for what he uses he would get no benefit from eARC.



eARC won’t magically uncompress the lossy Atmos on streaming sites.
Sure won't. I just want it for built in apps. Also one day I'd like to actually use VRR

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Let's see. Maximum speed USB-3.1 = 10GBs, HDMI 2.1 = 40GBs Yeah, who needs HDMI ...

There is nothing to do with your comparison!
40GBs responsive speed that is more important in gaming and not video
USB has no cable!
It is connected directly to the screen
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Even on the OLED screen that I have USB on the screen is the best video player in the world!
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This isn't hard, if you want eARC buy a TV with eARC. You shouldn't buy a TV based on a rumor that eARC will be added, that's on you, not Samsung.
While I bought a Samsung screen I did not find eARC in Samsung!
And buttons on this site promised that an eARC update would come, which was of course an invention of public relations!
 
that's on samsung promoter / Publicists On the site
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While I bought a Samsung screen I did not find eARC in Samsung!

And buttons on this site promised that an eARC update would come, which was of course an invention of public relations!

 

that's on samsung promoter / Publicists On the site
I think you're misinformed. Show us proof? If your getting your info on AVS it's not official Samsung

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There is nothing to do with your comparison!
40GBs responsive speed that is more important in gaming and not video
USB has no cable!
It is connected directly to the screen
The Video Player On This Screen The Best Video Player You Have!

Even on the OLED screen that I have USB on the screen is the best video player in the world!
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I take it you're implying you don't use your OPPO BD player - what's your source of video content over USB? And how is USB no cable when USB is by definition a connection protocol using cables or a flash drive? You're confusing me. Are you saying you're using the TV's streaming apps?

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There is nothing to do with your comparison!
40GBs responsive speed that is more important in gaming and not video
USB has no cable!
It is connected directly to the screen
The Video Player On This Screen The Best Video Player You Have!

Even on the OLED screen that I have USB on the screen is the best video player in the world!
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I will repeat this again,you are wrong. An HDMI cable works or it doesn't, if you transfer a 4k blu-ray disk to a USB drive there is literally zero difference in quality. It's the exact same content.
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I take it you're implying you don't use your OPPO BD player - what's your source of video content over USB? And how is USB no cable when USB is by definition a connection protocol using cables or a flash drive? You're confusing me. Are you saying you're using the TV's streaming apps?

I think he is bootlegging 4k bluray content, and doesn't have a way to play it except plugging a usb drive into the tv and letting the tv play the video file.
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I think he is bootlegging 4k bluray content, and doesn't have a way to play it except plugging a usb drive into the tv and letting the tv play the video file.
Sounds about right ...
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