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Bought the 55inch 900f yesterday & almost ready to return it.
There's no media tab in the home screen? So I have to unplug & replug in my USB stick everytime I wanna use it? My TV from 2008 was more advanced - this has to be a mistake on my end, there's really no way to navigate to the USB? Input shows hdmi ports but I can't select the USB port? How the hell did this happen?!
The HOME button gets you a screen that has a row called Apps...that row, on my X900F, contains "Video", "Album", and "Music", among other things. Those "apps" point to the content of the USB stick I plug into the back of the TV. Those tabs also show my Windows PC as a source as well. I don't know how to navigate the whole folders and such, I just give the darn thing 30 seconds or more to load thumbnails and such then select something to play or view. Sometimes the T is really slow to show USB content, so give it some time.

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What about for 4k? 3840 x 2160?

I am using Nvidia and it says 3840 x 2160 119hz tested successfully and would I like to save but it doesn't save. This is a GT 1030.

Doesn't save? Do you get an error message? It should show at the TOP of the resolution selection under Custom. It is not adding 199hz or 120hz to the 1080p, 1920 x 1080 tab, it's adding it as new resolution called 1920 x 1080, progressive.

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The HOME button gets you a screen that has a row called Apps...that row, on my X900F, contains "Video", "Album", and "Music", among other things. Those "apps" point to the content of the USB stick I plug into the back of the TV. Those tabs also show my Windows PC as a source as well. I don't know how to navigate the whole folders and such, I just give the darn thing 30 seconds or more to load thumbnails and such then select something to play or view. Sometimes the T is really slow to show USB content, so give it some time.

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Yea, I also couldn't find how to get to the the USB stick at first, but Anderegg is right, it's there. When I first powered up the X900F, it took me 30min to find the YouTube app. Pressed the "Apps" button on the remote, it wasn't there (crazy me to look there). Oh, but if you press the "HOME" button, there's the YouTube app. Never used the Android TV operating system before, still getting used to it.
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Sony remotes are the worst...I think the APP button links to apps preinstalled and paid by the services to be included in that "area" of the Android TV system? Also a good idea to get a long USB extension cord in the event you don't want to dig around the back of the set to jack in stuff all the time. And remember, if you have a Windows PC, it's shared folders and files will appear on the Sony TV's DNLA server.

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Yea, I also couldn't find how to get to the the USB stick at first, but Anderegg is right, it's there. When I first powered up the X900F, it took me 30min to find the YouTube app. Pressed the "Apps" button on the remote, it wasn't there (crazy me to look there). Oh, but if you press the "HOME" button, there's the YouTube app. Never used the Android TV operating system before, still getting used to it.
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85” and hockey

Hi folks...can anyone with the 85” comment on motion blur and screen uniformity with the 85”. Hockey is a good test for screen uniformity given the broad white ice service...any Dirty Screen effect? Any motion blur? Thanks folks

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Just watched Black Panther on my new 75” 900F. WOW!!
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Hi folks...can anyone with the 85” comment on motion blur and screen uniformity with the 85”. Hockey is a good test for screen uniformity given the broad white ice service...any Dirty Screen effect? Any motion blur? Thanks folks
I have the 85" and watched football most all day. I haven't noticed any motion blur or dirty screen at all. It's an awesome set.

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How can you tell if you have blooming issues or flashlighting?

Is there a way to test for it?
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Is there a way to customize the apps button on the remote? Or at least the apps selection showed?
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Hi folks...can anyone with the 85” comment on motion blur and screen uniformity with the 85”. Hockey is a good test for screen uniformity given the broad white ice service...any Dirty Screen effect? Any motion blur? Thanks folks
I can't speak for the 85" Sony 900F, but the 75" has an incredibly bright picture with no motion blur. Hockey is wonderful on the 900F. I watched the entire Avs/Flyers game last night and earlier, parts of the Maple Leafs/Senators game with the one week free NHL Center Ice package.

No banding or DSE for hockey on the 900F. You can also see the color variations of the ice (dark streaks) and the colors are brilliant. Another torture "banding" test is golf. Again, clear and pristine picture, especially with the tracking of golf shots against the sky which can really show banding on non full array sets and many OLED's. I ended up getting a free exchange for my Sony 900E to the Sony 900F 75" set and if I knew it was going to be this good - - I'd have upgraded to the 85"!

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Hockey is wonderful on the 900F. I watched the entire Avs/Flyers game last night and earlier, parts of the Maple Leafs/Senators game with the one week free NHL Center Ice package.
Lucky man, they're not offering the NHL in HD here in South FL. I tuned in a game yesterday in standard def, and that is no way to watch hockey. No reason to even look into the Comcast pass.
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I can't speak for the 85" Sony 900F, but the 75" has an incredibly bright picture with no motion blur. Hockey is wonderful on the 900F. I watched the entire Avs/Flyers game last night and earlier, parts of the Maple Leafs/Senators game with the one week free NHL Center Ice package.

No banding or DSE for hockey on the 900F. You can also see the color variations of the ice (dark streaks) and the colors are brilliant. Another torture "banding" test is golf. Again, clear and pristine picture, especially with the tracking of golf shots against the sky which can really show banding on non full array sets and many OLED's. I ended up getting a free exchange for my Sony 900E to the Sony 900F 75" set and if I knew it was going to be this good - - I'd have upgraded to the 85"!
That’s awesome news! I just can’t figure out why many folks on here say 720p on the 900F is really bad...perhaps it’s just their settings...

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From my understanding, 720p is actually better res than 1080i. In the photo below, would you set it to 1080i or 1080p, which is already upscaling once at the box?

Do you set it to best available 2160p60?
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That’s awesome news! I just can’t figure out why many folks on here say 720p on the 900F is really bad...perhaps it’s just their settings...
Here’s an interesting observation - I have my Comcast non 4K box set to 720p output. As I’ve mentioned in the past - my options are 720p, 1080i or 1080p where Comcast upscales all source content. That’s a no-no in my book as I want my Sony 900F to upscale everything. I get a great picture but you can still see a picture quality difference with premium channels like HBO or Cinemax. The MLB channel and even AXS are incredibly clear.

Now - with my OTA channels, 720p looks good but without a doubt, my Sony 900F does a better job of upscaling with 1080i content. It’s very noticeable and an incredible, Blu-ray like picture.

The number one recommendation I can make to get the best picture possible is to ensure that your Sony TV upscales all source content with the least processing from any other component in the chain.
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Here’s an interesting observation - I have my Comcast non 4K box set to 720p output. As I’ve mentioned in the past - my options are 720p, 1080i or 1080p where Comcast upscales all source content. That’s a no-no in my book as I want my Sony 900F to upscale everything. I get a great picture but you can still see a picture quality difference with premium channels like HBO or Cinemax. The MLB channel and even AXS are incredibly clear.

Now - with my OTA channels, 720p looks good but without a doubt, my Sony 900F does a better job of upscaling with 1080i content. It’s very noticeable and an incredible, Blu-ray like picture.

The number one recommendation I can make to get the best picture possible is to ensure that your Sony TV upscales all source content with the least processing from any other component in the chain.
Thanks, I’m on the fence between the 85” 850F and 85” 900F...I do understand the 900F is local dimming, a better processor, brighter etc, but where I live I can pickup the 850F for $2200 (38%) cheaper than the 900F...Mostly NHL HD hockey viewing and HDR movies in a pitch black room...What would u do? Thanks

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Here’s an interesting observation - I have my Comcast non 4K box set to 720p output. As I’ve mentioned in the past - my options are 720p, 1080i or 1080p where Comcast upscales all source content. That’s a no-no in my book as I want my Sony 900F to upscale everything. I get a great picture but you can still see a picture quality difference with premium channels like HBO or Cinemax. The MLB channel and even AXS are incredibly clear.

Now - with my OTA channels, 720p looks good but without a doubt, my Sony 900F does a better job of upscaling with 1080i content. It’s very noticeable and an incredible, Blu-ray like picture.

The number one recommendation I can make to get the best picture possible is to ensure that your Sony TV upscales all source content with the least processing from any other component in the chain.
what are your basic tv settings?

My picture is not what I call nice or anything amazing.It is so much noise in the image.Currently watching football and I am not enjoying it or anything regular tv.I am wondering if I have a bad panel or just picked a bad tv.I have tried so many setting as it is.Its definitely a bright tv but my image is very harsh with alot of noise and greyish blacks.

I decided to watch planet earth and it is a nice picture but still see noise.I have not liked this since day 1 but wondering if I just got a bad set.
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That’s awesome news! I just can’t figure out why many folks on here say 720p on the 900F is really bad...perhaps it’s just their settings...
This is definitely me at the moment 100%.Not loving this at all.

What are you settings as well.

My issue lack of clean image,clarity,noise,harshness and lack of deeper blacks.
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This is definitely me at the moment 100%.Not loving this at all.

What are you settings as well.

My issue lack of clean image,clarity,noise,harshness and lack of deeper blacks.
I don’t have the tv yet, was just inquiring how hockey looked...

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I don’t have the tv yet, was just inquiring how hockey looked...
oh ok.
More than likely mines is going back and back to the drawing board.I just hate to drag it back and buy something else.Idk if its the tv or what.OFC cable tv wont be the best due to the upscaling and signal it outputs but man this is bad for me
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Thanks, I’m on the fence between the 85” 850F and 85” 900F...I do understand the 900F is local dimming, a better processor, brighter etc, but where I live I can pickup the 850F for $2200 (38%) cheaper than the 900F...Mostly NHL HD hockey viewing and HDR movies in a pitch black room...What would u do? Thanks
I think I answered my own question...looks like the 850F does not support DV, from what I am reading...

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Wallyesquire, have you tried the Rtings settings? The X900F is supposed to be one of the best upscaling TVs. It certainly sounds like you have the wrong settings. Do you use an AVR in your setup? If you do have you tried using the AVR upscaling? What does a streamed app picture look like on your set? Check a program that is not UHD.

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Thanks, I’m on the fence between the 85” 850F and 85” 900F...I do understand the 900F is local dimming, a better processor, brighter etc, but where I live I can pickup the 850F for $2200 (38%) cheaper than the 900F...Mostly NHL HD hockey viewing and HDR movies in a pitch black room...What would u do? Thanks
Assuming you’ll keep your TV for 5-6 years - I’d try to get the 900F due to the much better processor and Dolby Vision capability. I also get Dolby Atmos audio via DD+ (ARC) and if you ever decide to go with a Dolby Atmos speaker setup or even a Dolby Atmos soundbar, you’ll appreciate that feature.

Have you considered the 75” instead? I know an 85” set would be more immersive but the 900F has a much better processor plus Dolby Vision. These are two key benefits of the 900F versus the 850F.
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Assuming you’ll keep your TV for 5-6 years - I’d try to get the 900F due to the much better processor and Dolby Vision capability. I also get Dolby Atmos audio via DD+ (ARC) and if you ever decide to go with a Dolby Atmos speaker setup or even a Dolby Atmos soundbar, you’ll appreciate that feature.

Have you considered the 75” instead? I know an 85” set would be more immersive but the 900F has a much better processor plus Dolby Vision. These are two key benefits of the 900F versus the 850F.
Thanks...I thought about the 75” but it’s too small IMO...I’m coming from a 4K projector with 120” screen, so size matters to me

I think I’m going to hold out for the 85” 900F Black Friday sale...

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Wallyesquire, have you tried the Rtings settings? The X900F is supposed to be one of the best upscaling TVs. It certainly sounds like you have the wrong settings. Do you use an AVR in your setup? If you do have you tried using the AVR upscaling? What does a streamed app picture look like on your set? Check a program that is not UHD.
Yes I have tried that and others.Felt it was to dark but will try again.I use rtings for all tv reviews and things so was surprised.

What is AVR?

Netflix looks fine but was nothing mind blowing.Looks great tho but tv has so much noise for me and blacks could be better but I know thats more an oled thing.

Current set up is 55inch sony 900f
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AVR = audio video receiver, used for surround sound. Many AVRs have excellent upscaling.

I believe the Dish output is 1080i. The TV should upscale this pretty well.

If the rtings settings look too dark, try adjusting the gamma of your TV to lighten it up. What picture mode are you using?

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AVR = audio video receiver, used for surround sound. Many AVRs have excellent upscaling.

I believe the Dish output is 1080i. The TV should upscale this pretty well.

If the rtings settings look too dark, try adjusting the gamma of your TV to lighten it up. What picture mode are you using?
No AVR
Yes dish is 1080i.

currently watching football but will try rting setting now.

I am using a mix of settings I have found online currently.

Just tried it now and its not bad.football looks ok.nothing great but will watch more channels with this settings.Thx
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Which Dish box are you using?
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That may be part of the problem. I went with Dish when I moved in Feb. and in researching I found a lot of complaints about picture quality with their older receivers. I have the Hopper 3 and from what could determine it has a significantly better picture than the earlier Hoppers. I'm not familiar with the VIP612 but it is something to consider. I know coming from Cox Cable to the Hopper 3 I find picture generally to be better than I had with Cox.
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That may be part of the problem. I went with Dish when I moved in Feb. and in researching I found a lot of complaints about picture quality with their older receivers. I have the Hopper 3 and from what could determine it has a significantly better picture than the earlier Hoppers. I'm not familiar with the VIP612 but it is something to consider. I know coming from Cox Cable to the Hopper 3 I find picture generally to be better than I had with Cox.
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But I had no issues with the reg tv picture quality on the NU8000 I had just 3 weeks.I had to search for better settings but I found my universal settings pretty fast and that 1 setting worked for movies,tv,netflix and streaming.This sony looks better for gaming but awful on regular tv so far.
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