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It's really not bad as long as you're using game mode.
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Picked up,my 75 inch set today, it was easy to put it together, I am a bit worried as tv wobbles a little, the screws are so small for the legs, any suggestions what to look for as far as screen is concerned, I have used Rtings setting for now, I will try panasonic ub900 and atv tonight, got good deal at local store, they delivered right away at home.
Considered Samsung q8 but I think it is not worth extra, in my case the comparison was more as compared to what I paid.
Will this do Atmos on arc to pioneer sc95?
I consider the 900F and Q8FN about a ties, 900F are cheaper and have dolby vision, it the way to go......
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Anyone know the in box dimensions of Sony 65 900f - need to know if it will fit in back of my explorer
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Anyone know the in box dimensions of Sony 65 900f - need to know if it will fit in back of my explorer
TV packaging dimensions = 61 1/4 x 37 5/8 x 7 5/8 (inches)
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What settings are you using on your 900F for DV over Apple TV4K? Streamed LEGO Movie today with the kids, and it was terribly dark. The HDMI port is set properly. Didn’t have this issue with the LG C7 this Sony is replacing. Thanks!
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Here is a picture I found with some online-searching of an "in-wall" mounting of a large screen Sony. This is an extreme example, as the TV is completely recessed. Have any of you guys done a similar type of installation ?



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I consider the 900F and Q8FN about a ties, 900F are cheaper and have dolby vision, it the way to go......


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Just set up my Switch with this TV today and I honestly don't think the input lag is that bad. Everyone's gonna have different opinions depending on how sensitive you are to it but I was running around in Mario Odyssey and thought it was totally fine.

Thank you for the reply. I am pulling the trigger tomorrow after work! I cant wait.


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It's really not bad as long as you're using game mode.

Thanks for the information! I will make sure to keep this in mind. I appreciate the reply.
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Hi Marco,I went to Sam's Club yesterday and talked to the TV salesman there. He said that the 55" China X9000F only had a 60Hz refresh rate. Not sure if that is accurate, but I bought a Samsung Q6F instead (very good price for 11/11).
I have looked on-line and I can't see any mention of the refresh rate on the specs sheet. Do you recall if the guy said that was just for the 55" version? I am interested in the 85" version of the same tv. It would strike me as odd that it would only have 60Hz refresh rate when the TV has X motion clarity - I thought you needed a higher refresh rate in order to achieve the desired affect of that. I will check with the Hong Kong Sony guys to see. The X9000F is the official brand number for Hong Kong as well as Australia too (X900F for the US and XF90 in Europe).
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I have looked on-line and I can't see any mention of the refresh rate on the specs sheet. Do you recall if the guy said that was just for the 55" version? I am interested in the 85" version of the same tv. It would strike me as odd that it would only have 60Hz refresh rate when the TV has X motion clarity - I thought you needed a higher refresh rate in order to achieve the desired affect of that. I will check with the Hong Kong Sony guys to see. The X9000F is the official brand number for Hong Kong as well as Australia too (X900F for the US and XF90 in Europe).

It was for the 55" version.



I agree that it would be weird that it would have the X motion clarity system but not the 120 Hz panel. On one hand, maybe he just wanted to try to sell me a more expensive TV, on the other, Hisense 55" TV's are all 60 Hz in China (even the 9 series) according to a spec sheet a JD rep sent me.
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I consider the 900F and Q8FN about a ties, 900F are cheaper and have dolby vision, it the way to go......
I've had my 900f for a couple of weeks now, and the one thing that sets it apart from the Q8 imo is the Sony Extreme Processor for non 4k programming like Cable.
I don't play games, i don't use Blu Ray or a DVR, most of my viewing is HD cable TV and my Computer. I have a friend that bought the Q8, and it looks great, but he views mostly 4K on the TV.

My HD cable is of course 1080i, but it looks like 1080p, 1440, 2160. My PC hookup does 3840x2160. Obviously Cable and Sat YMMV, but my Home Theater (Cable, Modem, PC, Yamaha A/V receiver, and Polk speakers) are perfect in my dark room.

But i think, after seeing both the Q8 and 900f in person (not in stores), the biggest difference is for people like me who primaraly watch 1080i sources on TV.
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What the depth from wall including wall mount?

Bought this tv..I am mounting it in a wooden cabinet on wall..TV itself is max 3 inch depth..my question is how much depth does wall mount take including TV 3 inch depth?
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Bought this tv..I am mounting it in a wooden cabinet on wall..TV itself is max 3 inch depth..my question is how much depth does wall mount take including TV 3 inch depth?


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Still not delivered..what the depth for default mount?
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Still not delivered..what the depth for default mount?
There is no default depth for mounts. It also depends on whether or not it's a flush, fixed or full motion mount.

That said, assuming it's not a flush mount, it would be safe to assume the depth of the mount will likely be between 1" to 3" deep depending on the type.
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There is no default depth for mounts. It also depends on whether or not it's a flush, fixed or full motion mount.

That said, assuming it's not a flush mount, it would be safe to assume the depth of the mount will likely be between 1" to 3" deep depending on the type.
Thanks.my cabinet it 9 inch in depth..so hopefully it will be enough
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Absolutely love it. I have an LG OLED in my bedroom and the 85" 900F in my living room. Of course it doesn't give off OLED blacks ... but it's a beautiful LCD. Watched Ready Player One and Predator in 4K UHD and both displayed an outstanding picture. You'll love this set.

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So got some ‘pitch black’ time in with my 900F last night. It’s a solid tv at its price point. As I mentioned earlier yesterday, there’s a small dse spot, but I can live with it. I did notice it during my Blade Runner 2049 ‘fog scene’ torture test, but while watching 2001 in 4K with HDR last night, playing PvX: Garden Warfare, Cuphead and Sea of Thieves, I couldnt see it 98% of the time and when it could be seen, I feel like Id have to look for it. It seems like it’s probably the same x shaped type thing some of you have talked about.

So 2001: A Space Odyssey was an interesting test. The film has some really bright stuff over a black background. The blooming there is definitely substantial but in most other content it’s a non issue.

I came from a Z9F and I had some issues with that set. It does certain things better and other things worse. The cinema bar flashlighting is substantially worse on the Z9F. Within the actual film imagery though, the Z9F handled blooming and image evenness better when HDR was in play in moments with stark contrast. However, due to quality control issues there, I made the switch to this tv and honestly feel happier with the 900F... it still puts up a quality image, gets bright enough for HDR, and is half the price. Comparable enough. And, while black levels were strong on the Z9F, I do prefer the contrast Im seeing on the 900F.

I notice no light bleed on the 900F from any of the edges, no light leakage from panel separation... it’s all good.

I settled on Cinema Pro since it is allegedly the best out of box calibration. No complaints with what I see on that mode. I switch to game mode for gaming though, for obvious reasons.
Very strange these DSE in "X" format on this TV.
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So got some ‘pitch black’ time in with my 900F last night. It’s a solid tv at its price point. As I mentioned earlier yesterday, there’s a small dse spot, but I can live with it. I did notice it during my Blade Runner 2049 ‘fog scene’ torture test, but while watching 2001 in 4K with HDR last night, playing PvX: Garden Warfare, Cuphead and Sea of Thieves, I couldnt see it 98% of the time and when it could be seen, I feel like Id have to look for it. It seems like it’s probably the same x shaped type thing some of you have talked about.

So 2001: A Space Odyssey was an interesting test. The film has some really bright stuff over a black background. The blooming there is definitely substantial but in most other content it’s a non issue.

I came from a Z9F and I had some issues with that set. It does certain things better and other things worse. The cinema bar flashlighting is substantially worse on the Z9F. Within the actual film imagery though, the Z9F handled blooming and image evenness better when HDR was in play in moments with stark contrast. However, due to quality control issues there, I made the switch to this tv and honestly feel happier with the 900F... it still puts up a quality image, gets bright enough for HDR, and is half the price. Comparable enough. And, while black levels were strong on the Z9F, I do prefer the contrast Im seeing on the 900F.

I notice no light bleed on the 900F from any of the edges, no light leakage from panel separation... it’s all good.

I settled on Cinema Pro since it is allegedly the best out of box calibration. No complaints with what I see on that mode. I switch to game mode for gaming though, for obvious reasons.
Very strange these DSE in "X" format on this TV.
It’s only in one small spot and more than likely something in manufacturing hit that part of the panel too hard, perhaps. Either way, it’s not worth returning the tv over.
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How does FIOS digital cable look on the 900F?
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What does it mean only hdmi 2,3 full band width, what will happen to other two ports if 4K hdr input is fed. My LG OLED has 3.
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Are you saying that HD cable looks much better on this TV than the Q8?

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After getting my new sony 900F in there was nothing really wrong with my older set but atleast I get price adjustments until next year.

I have been watching my lovely clicking ticking QF7 and I must say that TV is no punk.Its a pretty damn decent tv once you put in proper settings,I used a mix of some on here and rtings which I also used on Nu8000 in Sept.Very easy and straight forward due to not many setting options compared to the Sony.They are pretty universal as well for all content.

I really have no idea why these screens are so different.I see so much more noise and grain on the 900F compared to barely anything but clarity on the QF7 and the NU8000.It has to be the screen because I cant fathom anything else but then again this is all new to me.That why in my previous post I mentioned if the Sony 900 had the same screen as samsung I would not need another tv for years.I would be happy with no doubts or wants..

Because of this the tvs are much close in picture quality.The QF7 looks better watching cable tv but not cable tv movies which make no sense.Cable TV Movies on this QF7 are just not pretty but things like espn shows and football were damn good.Its pretty close watching netflix U4K and HDR content as well simply because of the low amount of noise/grain compared to the 900F.I did test using the 7 same movies/shows.

DV still adds that extra bang that is needed and I love,helping picture quality overall.I will say this new sony 900f tv looks better on cable than my last set but the other tv seemed brighter.I have no issues with DSE on the QF7 and its definitely the brighter tv for sure.

Gaming wise,its no doubt the sony is the winner.The games I played looked so much better than the QF7.Was night and day and the lag was no different from my hrs of playing on each tv.

Honestly after spending time which each tv together at same time and swapping back and forth its pretty close and Idk which is the definitive winner now but I would still give the edge to 900F.I just got my 900f back this morning so will test a couple more old settings and choose by end of the week.The QF7 is definitely worth the money minus the clicking sound and its really makes me wonder about the q8f and q9f which I don't considering buy personally due to not wanting to spend more money.I also came to the conclusion that there might not be a perfect tv for me especially at my budget.However there are still some great choices and great prices right now tho.

Trying to play view boths tvs together viewing the same source to pick winner
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Apple TV cannot enable HDR. I’m sure this is been resolved here, just got the 75 inch. I have put all of the settings in accordance with rtings, Including setting up enhanced HDMI for ports two and three. For some reason I cannot get my Apple TV for to recognize HDR on the TV. I’m using a mono price certified premium HDMI cable. Dolby Vision and HDR work fine on the Sony app version of Netflix, but not on the Apple TV.
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Apple TV cannot enable HDR. I’m sure this is been resolved here, just got the 75 inch. I have put all of the settings in accordance with rtings, Including setting up enhanced HDMI for ports two and three. For some reason I cannot get my Apple TV for to recognize HDR on the TV. I’m using a mono price certified premium HDMI cable. Dolby Vision and HDR work fine on the Sony app version of Netflix, but not on the Apple TV.
Sounds like a bad HDMI cable. I wouldnt trust monoprice for a premium cable.
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Are you saying that HD cable looks much better on this TV than the Q8?

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Not sure if it was directly at me but yes. IMO (and from critics as well), the Extreme Processor does make a difference as far as Cable TV. I have Spectrum TV Silver package (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime) and high speed Internet. Like i said, my Cable TV broadcast is 1080i (all broadcasts at 1080i), but mine looks so much better, clearer, sharper, and just looks like it does make a difference. I have my computer hooked up and it shows 4k @ 3840 x 2160.
All i have to do is press the "jump" button on the 900f remote to switch Cable to Internet and it shows 3840 x 2160 for On Demand movies and TV shows. The live HBO movies look almost as good.
I also love the motion handling of sports on my Cable. I watch a lot of Hockey and there's no DSE and no problem with motion. I use "custom" on my TV and "graphics" on my PC. But that's just personal.

Like i said, the reason i bought the Sony 900f is because of what i watch, which is mostly live cable TV and my high speed Internet. I don't use "apps" or any of the sort, i don't need it as my PC does all that.
There are cheaper 4k TV's out there like the Vizio, TCL, etc., and they do very well with 4k sources, and the Sammy Q series as well (i had a Sammy for 10 years prior, the top of the line B 750 series) which was perfect, but for me, as someone who prefers live cable TV and Internet, with my Yamaha receiver and Polk speakers, i couldn't be happier with my home theater.
However, it may be different depending on where you live as far as Cable/Sat. I live in the city. So it's important to understand what your sources are as far as your location.

And yes, there are some things i wish were better on the Sony (like too many buttons on the remote, the position of the inputs (why oh why did they put the inputs on the right side, and you have to plug the inputs underneath instead of the normal way). But those are minor, the main thing is the engine that drives this machine is awesome.
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been watching Sabrina in DV on netflix.. show is actually good. This show is truly dark and DV looks fantastic

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Apple TV cannot enable HDR. I’m sure this is been resolved here, just got the 75 inch. I have put all of the settings in accordance with rtings, Including setting up enhanced HDMI for ports two and three. For some reason I cannot get my Apple TV for to recognize HDR on the TV. I’m using a mono price certified premium HDMI cable. Dolby Vision and HDR work fine on the Sony app version of Netflix, but not on the Apple TV.
My ATV does HDR and DV using Monoprice Certified Premium Ultra Thin, yours should work too. All firmware up to date? You’re going straight from ATV to Sony? If all else ok, it’s likely cables.

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I got the 49" X900F today. It was a replacement for my Samsung KS8500. That tv developed some pretty bad light bleed at the bottom so I called in my Best Buy warranty service and got this tv for a replacement. I watched a bit of The Grand Tour and Man in the High Castle on it and while it's not as bright as my last tv, it does look better. I also tried FFXV at 4K HDR and it looks fantastic. I definitely feel like I got an upgrade with the exchange. I do like Android TV over Tizen, but I feel like Tizen had a better interface.

One odd thing is that my last tv was curved. I use it as a pc monitor and sit normal pc distances away. I got used to the curve and I didn't notice it after a few days. Now that I have a flat tv, the tv looks curved towards me when I sit the same distance away. I guess I have to give it a few days for my brain to adjust.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Cushing View Post
Not sure if it was directly at me but yes. IMO (and from critics as well), the Extreme Processor does make a difference as far as Cable TV. I have Spectrum TV Silver package (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime) and high speed Internet. Like i said, my Cable TV broadcast is 1080i (all broadcasts at 1080i), but mine looks so much better, clearer, sharper, and just looks like it does make a difference. I have my computer hooked up and it shows 4k @ 3840 x 2160.
All i have to do is press the "jump" button on the 900f remote to switch Cable to Internet and it shows 3840 x 2160 for On Demand movies and TV shows. The live HBO movies look almost as good.
I also love the motion handling of sports on my Cable. I watch a lot of Hockey and there's no DSE and no problem with motion. I use "custom" on my TV and "graphics" on my PC. But that's just personal.

Like i said, the reason i bought the Sony 900f is because of what i watch, which is mostly live cable TV and my high speed Internet. I don't use "apps" or any of the sort, i don't need it as my PC does all that.
There are cheaper 4k TV's out there like the Vizio, TCL, etc., and they do very well with 4k sources, and the Sammy Q series as well (i had a Sammy for 10 years prior, the top of the line B 750 series) which was perfect, but for me, as someone who prefers live cable TV and Internet, with my Yamaha receiver and Polk speakers, i couldn't be happier with my home theater.
However, it may be different depending on where you live as far as Cable/Sat. I live in the city. So it's important to understand what your sources are as far as your location.

And yes, there are some things i wish were better on the Sony (like too many buttons on the remote, the position of the inputs (why oh why did they put the inputs on the right side, and you have to plug the inputs underneath instead of the normal way). But those are minor, the main thing is the engine that drives this machine is awesome.
Thank you so much for the reply. It was very helpful.

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