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What do you think about image in motion with this tv?
I have read in websites some people that are not very happy with this tv.
They see something "strange" about motion with this tv,like a sort of motion blur or ghosting.
Me too the first time i see the tv in action have noticed something of "strange".
They compare the tv with old tvs fullhd they had.
In your opinions,is this tv ok in motion images with games and movies?even without motionflow or BFI options?

Maybe is because is a 4K very bright TV that people see "something strange" compare to old 1080p tvs?

Not sure if you are trolling or just trying to "stir the pot." I haven't had any problems with motion on my Sony 900F. Nothing "strange" or motion blur/ghosting. I have the "Motionflow" settings on. I've tried them both ways and prefer the X-Motion Clarity feature/benefit.
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What do you think about image in motion with this tv?
I have read in websites some people that are not very happy with this tv.
They see something "strange" about motion with this tv,like a sort of motion blur or ghosting.
Me too the first time i see the tv in action have noticed something of "strange".
They compare the tv with old tvs fullhd they had.
In your opinions,is this tv ok in motion images with games and movies?even without motionflow or BFI options?

Maybe is because is a 4K very bright TV that people see "something strange" compare to old 1080p tvs?
Sony has the BEST motion handeling, upscaling, and processing in the business.
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2018 Sony XBR 900F owners thread (No Price Talk)

I'm not sure if x-motion clarity is a good or bad thing...
Because it flicker at 120 hz,so it could case duplications on image outlines.
(Read Rtings review about BFI)
With games at 60 hz it's evident,and i have noticed it on tv shows ...a little bit on the writings that flow..that sort of double feeling of an imperfect focus,due to a greater sharpness.
No,i'm not trolling :/
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How to Stream via Ethernet?

I just got an XBR65900F, my first smart TV and I need some help getting my video files on my PC Windows 10 to play on the TV. I have an Ethernet cable to the TV from my PC and tried an External 2TB HDD USB with no luck. I was hoping to get rid of my old Mede8er I used before. The TV sees my PC but it can't browse and play my files. I called Sony and he said I need an HDMI cable from PC to TV in order to do this. Is there no way you folks know of I can do this via Ethernet? I hate to run a 35' HDMI cable if I don't have to.



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I haven't felt this defeated since Organic Chem II. HAHA. I have the 900f using it with a Samsung K950 soundbar and Amazon Fire cube TV. I have been told the soundbar won't produce ATMOS via HDMI ARC. Anyone else have this setup? If so how are you connecting to actually get the blue light and ATMOS sound. I tried connecting HDMI 1 to HDMI 1 on the sound bar (not ARC) and don't get any sound at all. In theory the Fire Cube shoudl give ATMOS on Amazon programming and the TV itself for VUDU and Netflilx. Any help is appreciated as my fiancee is sick of my swearing at the TV set.
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Lightbulb Game mode - contrast to "Max"

I just wanted to note for everyone something about running a PC on the X900F. I usually use the PC for gaming, but even on "Game" mode I was getting strange artifacts on text (running native 4K and 10-bit HDR to HDMI 2), where it would look like it was "blooming" a bit. I was using Rtings.com's settings (below) but "Game" mode for minimum latency.

The "blooming" was gone in some of the Photo/Graphics modes. After carefully comparing the settings, I discovered that setting the "Contrast" from 90 to Max fixed the problem.

It seems that setting Contrast to Max turns off some sort of video processing and causes the TV to display the signal exactly as sent. I wonder why Rtings doesn't point this out, but simply says using 90 "gave us a good result in our calibration and also because it is a safe value that does not produce any clipping in the bright white."

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I haven't felt this defeated since Organic Chem II. HAHA. I have the 900f using it with a Samsung K950 soundbar and Amazon Fire cube TV. I have been told the soundbar won't produce ATMOS via HDMI ARC. Anyone else have this setup? If so how are you connecting to actually get the blue light and ATMOS sound. I tried connecting HDMI 1 to HDMI 1 on the sound bar (not ARC) and don't get any sound at all. In theory the Fire Cube shoudl give ATMOS on Amazon programming and the TV itself for VUDU and Netflilx. Any help is appreciated as my fiancee is sick of my swearing at the TV set.
Cube > Soundbar HDMI in. Soundbar HDMI out to 900F ARC (HDMI 3)
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I just got an XBR65900F, my first smart TV and I need some help getting my video files on my PC Windows 10 to play on the TV. I have an Ethernet cable to the TV from my PC and tried an External 2TB HDD USB with no luck. I was hoping to get rid of my old Mede8er I used before. The TV sees my PC but it can't browse and play my files. I called Sony and he said I need an HDMI cable from PC to TV in order to do this. Is there no way you folks know of I can do this via Ethernet? I hate to run a 35' HDMI cable if I don't have to.



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Try installing one of the File Manager apps for Android TV such as Xplore or ES File Explorer. From there you can view and play files via your wifi network.

Or you can try the Plex app.
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Cube > Soundbar HDMI in. Soundbar HDMI out to 900F ARC (HDMI 3)

Just out of curiosity, is it the Fire Cube that is doing the Dolby Atmos decoding? That would work for Fire Cube content. But any audio from your Sony TV, via ARC (3) would need an AVR to pull Dolby Atmos from a DD+ stream, correct? In other words - if you have cable or satellite TV, you'll get, at best, Dolby Digital audio. With internal apps - you get Dolby Atmos via DD+ IF you have an AVR that can properly decode Dolby Atmos. (Not that it's an issue for cable or satellite (or broadcast TV) as there is no Dolby Atmos from those sources.

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Just out of curiosity, is it the Fire Cube that is doing the Dolby Atmos decoding? That would work for Fire Cube content. But any audio from your Sony TV, via ARC (3) would need an AVR to pull Dolby Atmos from a DD+ stream, correct? In other words - if you have cable or satellite TV, you'll get, at best, Dolby Digital audio. With internal apps - you get Dolby Atmos via DD+ IF you have an AVR that can properly decode Dolby Atmos. (Not that it's an issue for cable or satellite (or broadcast TV) as there is no Dolby Atmos from those sources.
The config I described will give him ATMOS for Cube ATMOS content and ARC will provide lossy DD+ ATMOS from the internal 900F apps. His Samsung soundbar supports ATMOS. Not as good as an AVR ATMOS setup but its still ATMOS.
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The config I described will give him ATMOS for Cube ATMOS content and ARC will provide lossy DD+ ATMOS from the internal 900F apps. His Samsung soundbar supports ATMOS. Not as good as an AVR ATMOS setup but its still ATMOS.

I don't think that the Sony 900F can decode Dolby Atmos. Yes, it will provide DD+ - - but Dolby Atmos is a "ride along" that needs decoding. If I read the specs right, the Sony 900F does not decode Dolby Atmos. (Dolby™ Digital, Dolby™ Digital Plus, Dolby™ Pulse)

The Samsung soundbar supports Atmos but it must be decoded by the TV or other source. In other words - ARC from the Sony 900F will NOT provide Dolby Atmos straight from HDMI 3 (TV) to the soundbar.

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I don't think that the Sony 900F can decode Dolby Atmos. Yes, it will provide DD+ - - but Dolby Atmos is a "ride along" that needs decoding. If I read the specs right, the Sony 900F does not decode Dolby Atmos. (Dolby™ Digital, Dolby™ Digital Plus, Dolby™ Pulse)

The Samsung soundbar supports Atmos but it must be decoded by the TV or other source. In other words - ARC from the Sony 900F will NOT provide Dolby Atmos straight from HDMI 3 (TV) to the soundbar.
Try the internal 900F Netflix app with an ATMOS title such as Guardians of the Galaxy 2.
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I'm still running a 50" Samsung 720p plasma from 2008 and the itch to pull the upgrade trigger is stronger than before. I've been holding off for OLED, but I think I've come to terms that the burn-in potential isn't worth the risk. I have burn-in from gaming and leaving static menu's, etc. on-screen over time.

I've looked at the 900F in BB store and am impressed with the picture of the demo material. Since I don't upgrade often as you can tell, am I jumping in at the right time? I know you can never stay ahead of technology, but I'm trying to decide whether to grab a 75" for the long haul or a 65" for a short-term if there's something worthwhile coming on next year's variant.

I'm guessing 8K is still quite a ways off for source material. But I assume a quality 8K set would upscale very well. Likelihood of next year's 900F being 8k? I would think 8k would be more worthwhile on a 75". I could grab the 65" now and move it upstairs for my wife in a year or two...
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Try installing one of the File Manager apps for Android TV such as Xplore or ES File Explorer. From there you can view and play files via your wifi network.

Or you can try the Plex app.

Thanks for the idea, do you know if any of these programs will work with Ethernet? I have some ripped Blu Rays.
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Thanks, I'll give this a try. I believe the ARC on the k950 does not decode where the new N950 does. More of a Samsung issue than a Sony issue.

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I don't think that the Sony 900F can decode Dolby Atmos. Yes, it will provide DD+ - - but Dolby Atmos is a "ride along" that needs decoding. If I read the specs right, the Sony 900F does not decode Dolby Atmos. (Dolby™ Digital, Dolby™ Digital Plus, Dolby™ Pulse)

The Samsung soundbar supports Atmos but it must be decoded by the TV or other source. In other words - ARC from the Sony 900F will NOT provide Dolby Atmos straight from HDMI 3 (TV) to the soundbar.
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Thanks for the idea, do you know if any of these programs will work with Ethernet? I have some ripped Blu Rays.
You could also pick up either an AppleTV 4k or Shield, and install Mr.MC or Kodi & stream from your storage that way?

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You could also pick up either an AppleTV 4k or Shield, and install Mr.MC or Kodi & stream from your storage that way?
Yes, I could do that I suppose but I already have a Mede8er. I'm just trying to get that out of the picture if I can since I now have a Smart TV.
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Yes, I could do that I suppose but I already have a Mede8er. I'm just trying to get that out of the picture if I can since I now have a Smart TV.

I run Plex Media Server from my PC and installed the Plex app on my 900f. Works like a charm. Both are wired ethernet. And it's free. Freelicious is delicious.
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I run Plex Media Server from my PC and installed the Plex app on my 900f. Works like a charm. Both are wired ethernet. And it's free. Freelicious is delicious.
Sounds good, I'll give it a shot. Thanks to everyone for the help
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What's up guys. New to the 900f scene as I just picked one up yesterday. So far I pretty happy minus some blooming but the pq is very nice. Coming from a 2014 Vizio e550i b2. Honestly I don't see blacks being better than the Vizio. Anyway my question is this. My current firmware is
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I'm assuming this is fairly old and I do t have DV. I don't care if I get it either but curious if any of the update help improve pq or not so much. I've read some bad stories of ppl upgrading the firmware and either not being happy with the performance or whatnot. If pq doesn't improve not sure I will do it. Just seeing what you guys think. Thanks

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Not sure what you mean. While I acknowledge the OLED has the superior picture, the opportunity for a larger screen at my distance has always been on my mind. That being said I won't consider any other LED other than the 900f because of the quality. I could buy the Samsung NU8000 for a heck of a lot less but the poor local dimming and other features that don't stack up make me come back to the 75 inch 900f.
Exactly, I was just saying you can choose better quality which most people would consider being the OLED or go with the bigger size being a quantity buy at that point being the 900F. I myself choose quantity, I would get the 900F.
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Connected this TV with Yamaha audio video receiver using a ARC HDMI port 3. All my video input are going to my AVR and from AVR signals are going to TV through ARC.
I am trying to play the Netflix app from the TV and I can see the picture but there is no sound any idea what setting should I change on TV so I can watch Netflix app of TV and audio from AVR unit. I was thinking ARC port will pass the sound from TVs inbuilt app to AVR.
Sonic -- did you ever figure this out? I have recently set up our new 75X900F and tried using the TV's Netflix app and didn't get any dialogue through my AVR system. I have a single HDMI cable running between HDMI3 ARC on the TV and the HDMI ARC on our AVR receiver. Audio is fine when viewing Directv, and Netflix sounds fine when accessed through our old Roku box. But when I launch Netflix from the Sony remote, I get the video stream fine but no audio. FWIW - if I switch audio settings to Speakers/TV Speakers (from Speakers/Audio system) the sound comes through fine, albeit only from the TV's speakers.

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Sonic -- did you ever figure this out? I have recently set up our new 75X900F and tried using the TV's Netflix app and didn't get any dialogue through my AVR system. I have a single HDMI cable running between HDMI3 ARC on the TV and the HDMI ARC on our AVR receiver. Audio is fine when viewing Directv, and Netflix sounds fine when accessed through our old Roku box. But when I launch Netflix from the Sony remote, I get the video stream fine but no audio. FWIW - if I switch audio settings to Speakers/TV Speakers (from Speakers/Audio system) the sound comes through fine, albeit only from the TV's speakers.


I had the exact same problem.
I ended up connecting all HDMI on the back of TV and then optical digital cable from TV to AVR to transfer audio from TV to AVR.
But I had a feeling that I could get it work with all HDMI going to AVR and then connect one HDMI from AVR output to TV’s ARC if I had just simply restarted the TV.
So first suggestion, keep the connections as is, and unplug the tv and AVR. Then plug back both, ARC handshake will happen and TVs inbuilt Netflix will have sound through AVR.
If it don’t work by restarting then use optical digital cable and it will work, but then you have to connect all devices to TV and then optical cable to AVR.
Let me know if first one works.

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[QUOTE=Cleveland Plasma;57272480]What are you watching first?

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As long as your TV and your PC are on the same network, you should be able to see your PC files through the File Manager app on the TV
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Thanks, I'll give this a try. I believe the ARC on the k950 does not decode where the new N950 does. More of a Samsung issue than a Sony issue.
The Samsung K950 is an Atmos soundbar:


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Got the 65inch version last week. All 4 corners are blacker.. I know this is normal but it is driving me crazy. Do all units do it equal?
Honestly, I notice this only when watching regular cable TV and during commercials where they will display a solid clear color. Any other team (full screen content), I don't notice it at all on my TV so for me, it's an easy thing to live with.

Now I don't know if some TV does it more than others. I guess you can post some pictures for us to see how dark it is on yours.
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I don't think that the Sony 900F can decode Dolby Atmos. Yes, it will provide DD+ - - but Dolby Atmos is a "ride along" that needs decoding. If I read the specs right, the Sony 900F does not decode Dolby Atmos. (Dolby™ Digital, Dolby™ Digital Plus, Dolby™ Pulse)

The Samsung soundbar supports Atmos but it must be decoded by the TV or other source. In other words - ARC from the Sony 900F will NOT provide Dolby Atmos straight from HDMI 3 (TV) to the soundbar.
Not sure where the decoding takes place, I believe it is at the soundbar level. A soundbar essentially acts like an AVR with built in speakers. All I know is that it works, I tested Netflix Atmos from the internal app yesterday successfully.
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Thanks guys for the input on the dark corners. I will live with them. They are not too bad until you really look for them.

Another question though... I am running all my inputs through my receiver. I am a little confused on the "game mode". Do I enable game mode on the TV.. but since only 1 HDMI goes from the receiver to the TV won't all sources use game mode then?
This is correct. So when you play games, you set the picture mode to "Game" but once you watch other content, you have to manually switch it back to what ever picture mode you use.

If you do connect your game consol directly to the TV without going through the AVR, you would be able to set the picture mode for that HDMI input and it would remember it on your TV, preventing you from having to manually switch. On the other end, this will force you to pass another cable to get the audio and while it may not be a problem, you may have to play with sound delay to adjust it yourself as this won't automatically since as if you had your HDMI video from your game console to go through your AVR first.

For me, I just manually switch the picture more depending if I'm playing on my PS4 pro or watching TV/movies.
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The Samsung K950 is an Atmos soundbar:


https://www.samsung.com/us/televisio...za-hw-k950-za/

Yes - A Dolby Atmos soundbar but...

(From the K950 Setup Guide)

Speaker connectivity
• Dolby Atmos sound can only be decoded via HDMI at the TV side. Use HDMI with ARC to connect.
• Blu-Ray player needs to be connected to the soundbar and the settings
should be changed via the following steps: Blu-Ray Player Settings
Menu > Sound > Digital Output > Bitstream (unprocessed).

The Sony 900F does not decode Dolby Atmos from the TV. If you are using internal apps - - you can get Dolby Atmos via ARC to your AVR and then out to your soundbar or speaker system. Is it possible to run HDMI out from the Fire Cube to HDMI "In" - 1,2 or 4 of the Sony 900F and then HDMI (3) out from the Sony TV to the soundbar? That way - - the processing should take place at the Fire Cube with Dolby Atmos via internal apps AND the Fire Cube itself?

It sure would be easier if the soundbar decoded Dolby Atmos - - that would be the best solution.

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SONY 75X900F & 49X900E, BenQ W1080ST, Denon X5200 & Emotiva XPA-3
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