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Does anyone expect target to carry the 55r617?? I want the better remote, but have a price advantage picking up at a B&M in Delaware...

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Ordered the 65, arriving Monday.
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I could buy this from worstbuy or amazon.
Is there a reason I should pick one over the other?
Main consern is warranty and repair.
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Well, obviously no need to wait for the embargo to end to discuss price.

I believe TV makers with names that start with S, L, and V probably just woke up, took a look at the price of the 65", and realized that the game has changed.

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Ordered 65 inch at Amazon. Will be here tomorrow. Hard to believe it will be here in one day. Well worth the $27.99 one day delivery.
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Well, obviously no need to wait for the embargo to end to discuss price.

I believe TV makers with names that start with S, L, and V probably just woke up, took a look at the price of the 65", and realized that the game has changed.
I agree for value shoppers (like me) but there are still parameters (e.g. brightness, reflections,...) the tcl falls short on. Thus reasons to pay more remain.
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Just pulled the trigger on Amazon w/ the 4-year protection. Delivering Monday. So stoked

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So is this a 60hz panel or 120hz?


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So is this a 60hz panel or 120hz?


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Looks like 60
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Looks like 60


Hmm but the new vizio p series are 120hz correct?


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I agree for value shoppers (like me) but there are still parameters (e.g. brightness, reflections,...) the tcl falls short on. Thus reasons to pay more remain.
Absolutely true statements, I have nothing to debate there. Riht now, side-by-side in my living room, are: Samsung Q9F, Sony X900F and TCL 6-Series.

What it comes down to is, what's your budget, how picky are you, what's your usage scenario, and how much tolerance do you have for TV not handling a scene properly (all three TVs I mentioned handle most scenes just fine).


Anyhow, no question the three TVs I just mentioned exhibit performance that correlate to their respective price points. But I can tell you exactly where the law of diminishing returns kicks in hard... This TV, 65".

If money was not an object I'd be getting a 75" Q9FN. If money is an object, it's hard to argue against this TV.
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Hmm but the new vizio p series are 120hz correct?

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Useful for PC gamers who want to play 1080p 120 Hz on a TV. And I guess 24p cadence but it remains to be seen how this TV handles it, because unlike the 2017 TCL this TV is capable of frame interpolation.
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55 inch ordered from amazon

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Useful for PC gamers who want to play 1080p 120 Hz on a TV. And I guess 24p cadence but it remains to be seen how this TV handles it, because unlike the 2017 TCL this TV is capable of frame interpolation.


Yeah I agree. When are the new vizios available?


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Just ordered mine. May 4th. Bummer that the 65 is available for Prime. But the 55 isn't. People can get their 65's by this Friday!
It does now show that the 55" is available for Prime, it's just that the earliest available delivery date (for me) would be May 4th, with free Prime Shipping. The 65" model becomes so much more tempting now, but the grief I'd get from my spouse and the massive changes I'd have to make to my rec room to accommodate it are keeping it off the table for now.

The fact that Best Buy is only showing in store pickup for the 65" model on Wednesday May 9th, and not even a listing for the 55" model is truly perplexing. So far it doesn't sound like TCL is going to be able to live up to their "in stores by May 1st" claim, at least on the 55" 6-Series model[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/confused.gif[/IMG]

Oh, it's worth noting that as of right now, Tiger Direct has taken down their page for the 55R617, and are showing only the 55P605, for the nominal sum of $720??
That’s exactly what it said for me when I tried to order. I deleted it from the cart and closed and re-opened the app a few times just to be sure the app wasn’t being goofy.

This whole thing has been weird as heck. The review embargo is one thing. But to not have both models at Best Buy is really perplexing. Then, looking at the estimated ship times and in store pickup date for the 65 at Best Buy is a real head scratcher...
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Useful for PC gamers who want to play 1080p 120 Hz on a TV. And I guess 24p cadence but it remains to be seen how this TV handles it, because unlike the 2017 TCL this TV is capable of frame interpolation.
Cool. I'm not usually a big fan of frame interpolation, but it's still a nice extra tool to have in the toolbox. Does it by chance also offer optional black frame insertion at 60Hz?
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I could buy this from worstbuy or amazon.
Is there a reason I should pick one over the other?
Main consern is warranty and repair.
Both are authorized dealers so you are covered for warranty and repair. Personally, I buy from Amazon since I get 5% back with their credit card (BB may have something with their card but I don't want to open another credit account). And each time I've had an issue (which isn't that often) with a tv I've ordered from Amazon, Amazon has always made it right, no hassles, whether that means exchange, return, or some sort of credit compensation. I've also read BB has been telling some customers that after they return some random item, they can't return future items for a year because some BB algorithm says the customer has initiated returns too often or past a certain dollar amount. I don't want to deal with any of that nonsense.
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Absolutely true statements, I have nothing to debate there. Riht now, side-by-side in my living room, are: Samsung Q9F, Sony X900F and TCL 6-Series.

What it comes down to is, what's your budget, how picky are you, what's your usage scenario, and how much tolerance do you have for TV not handling a scene properly (all three TVs I mentioned handle most scenes just fine).


Anyhow, no question the three TVs I just mentioned exhibit performance that correlate to their respective price points. But I can tell you exactly where the law of diminishing returns kicks in hard... This TV, 65".

If money was not an object I'd be getting a 75" Q9FN. If money is an object, it's hard to argue against this TV.
hey how are you?

i had a few questions if you don't mind:

1.) a problem with hdr on lower nit displays even something like the x900e, is that when you switch from sdr to hdr the image as a whole seems to really dim, while making small highlights brighter. is this problem eliminated when using a high nit display over 1500 nits like the q9f? or does the image still seem dimmer when you switch from sdr to hdr?

2.) another thing is that many people feel that when you switch from sdr to hdr, alot of the vibrancy and pop of the image as a whole is lost, while hdr concentrates on presenting a more accurate, realistic and contrasty picture. is that problem solved with higher nit displays like the q9f? can you finally not lose that vibrancy when switching to hdr? can hdr finally make the image as a whole even more vibrant and colorful and popping than sdr?

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I got the 55" ordered from Amazon but I'm really bummed Best Buy isn't offering it yet (I mostly like it for easy returns but the $50 lower price for the cheaper remote is good as well since I always use a Harmony). Looks like they're still trying to unload their supply of the 55P607, which is crappy but understandable, I guess. Maybe that will change in the next couple days and I can cancel the Amazon order. Looking for the reviews now as the embargo just broke.
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Hmm but the new vizio p series are 120hz correct?
Probably but I don't believe they accept a 120hz signal on any of the HDMI inputs. Which isn't to say that a 120hz panel isn't preferred but everyone needs to understand the difference between a panel and an hdmi input.
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This is from the Amazon listing. Kinda funny they finally answered the question!

Question: Is this a 60Hz panel or 120Hz
Answer: The highly anticipated 2018 6 Series brings many powerful picture performance features, including great fast action handling using a combination of 60 Hz panel refresh rate and advanced backlight scanning to deliver the listed 120 Hz Clear Motion Index.

Thanks,

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By A manufacturer MANUFACTURER on April 25, 2018
The thing I like about TCL, is that they did answer the question. And immediately upon release of the TV knowing people were asking.


Really the 120hz is only for gamers with a PC connected to the TV. Speaking for movies the TV can lock in at 48hz which provides 1:1 cadence for 24p movie viewing. So unless you're a gamer this isn't an issue.

Although others have reported there were issues in 2017 with their internal apps. E.G. Playing 60hz video. Makes me wonder if their API had some bugs, like it locked the display at 48hz but didn't change the sync back to 60hz when 60hz content was played. Hopefully they rectified that in this years software. And or provide firmware for 2017. We'll find out soon I guess
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Was tinkering around on Amazon about canceling my 55 inch order and it says they can try to cancel but they're preparing it for shipment so I'm assuming they have them at the warehouse/in stock.

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CNET is saying it should be $50 cheaper at BB. Which is the same as it was for 2017.

https://www.cnet.com/products/tcl-55...ku-tv/preview/
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The thing I like about TCL, is that they did answer the question. And immediately upon release of the TV knowing people were asking.





Really the 120hz is only for gamers with a PC connected to the TV. Speaking for movies the TV can lock in at 48hz which provides 1:1 cadence for 24p movie viewing. So unless you're a gamer this isn't an issue.



Although others have reported there were issues in 2017 with their internal apps. E.G. Playing 60hz video. Makes me wonder if their API had some bugs, like it locked the display at 48hz but didn't change the sync back to 60hz when 60hz content was played. Hopefully they rectified that in this years software. And or provide firmware for 2017. We'll find out soon I guess


TCL web site now has spec sheet, etc. listed so you can get full dimensions, mounting details, etc.


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Anyone know the difference between the 65R615 and the 65R617?
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Absolutely true statements, I have nothing to debate there. Riht now, side-by-side in my living room, are: Samsung Q9F, Sony X900F and TCL 6-Series.

What it comes down to is, what's your budget, how picky are you, what's your usage scenario, and how much tolerance do you have for TV not handling a scene properly (all three TVs I mentioned handle most scenes just fine).


Anyhow, no question the three TVs I just mentioned exhibit performance that correlate to their respective price points. But I can tell you exactly where the law of diminishing returns kicks in hard... This TV, 65".

If money was not an object I'd be getting a 75" Q9FN. If money is an object, it's hard to argue against this TV.
Is this year's 5 series comparable to last years p6507?
I'm trying to decide between these 3 for a few people. Just not seeing enough info between those 2.

2018 5 series 450
2017 6 series 600
2018 6 series 650.

If i can save 200 bucks for 18 5 vs 17 6 I'll bite.
Any help is appreciated.
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Anyone know the difference between the 65R615 and the 65R617?
I think the 617 has the more advanced remote with earbuds and voice search.
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Anyone know the difference between the 65R615 and the 65R617?
Like what @rockaway1836 posted above; $50 cheaper at BB with lesser remote i think.

The only difference between the 615 models at Best Buy and the 617 models available at Amazon and elsewhere is the remote -- the TVs themselves are exactly the same. The 617's remote has a mic for voice search and other voice commands and also uses RF (radio frequency) to communicate with the TV, so you can point it anywhere. (In case you're wondering, the 2018 clicker is missing the headphone jack and remote finder features found on its predecessor.)

The 615's remote lacks voice support -- although you can still issue voice commands using your phone via the Roku app -- and uses standard IR (infrared) communication. If you don't care about the remote, the Best Buy version is the better value at $50 less.
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I think the 617 has the more advanced remote with earbuds and voice search.
here is the CNET review or more like a summary:

https://www.cnet.com/products/tcl-55...ku-tv/preview/

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Disappointing about the lack of headphone jack on the remote for both models. But, it gives me a reason to get the Best buy version for $50 less. Now...if they would just let me order the 55" version at Best Buy.
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