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I threw a Harmony Ultimate Home remote with my P65... it’s a nice compliment to the TV. I’m surprised how well it works and what it can do.


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On week 2 of owning my P55-F1 and my only reservation about recommending this TV so far is its stability. I've had to power cycle my display 10-15 times in the last two weeks due to various freezes or crashes with my display. Seen it happen over HMDI with both my PS4 Pro and Apple TV 4K. Tried factory resets, CEC on and off, disconnecting it from the WiFi but it keeps happening. Vizio support has said they will come out to swap my displays, which is much easier for me than a return to the retailer. As far as I can tell I'm the only one having this issue, so hopefully it's unique to my display.
I've had it happen 3-4 times in the last two weeks while using the PS4 Pro, FWIW.
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2018 Vizio P75-F1 Issue - Grey dots showing on white screen (W/pics)

Ordered the P75 on the first day available. Took over 2 weeks to receive. (Dallas, TX)

It was delivered from a guy in a Jeep Grand Cherokee laying flat with the seats down....It fit somehow..but i mean it shouldn't have been delivered in this manner.

Got it mounted in our TV room and was watching world cup matches and also some youtube stuff....I was noticing these 'dots' on the top right hand corner when a white-ish scene was being shown.

We were moving all week so I barely watched the TV. Then Friday my dad and I sat down to really investigate this. Basically it is intermittent. It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does it is obvious.

Vizio is sending a replacement this week, which is great. Worried about if this is a broad issue.

Anyway, the TV looks great besides this!
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I've had it happen 3-4 times in the last two weeks while using the PS4 Pro, FWIW.
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That is the backlight zones bleeding through. It shouldn't look that bad though. Glad to hear Vizio is taking care of it.
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That is the backlight zones bleeding through. It shouldn't look that bad though. Glad to hear Vizio is taking care of it.
Is this something that is pretty typical? Will a new one mitigate the issue?
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Is this something that is pretty typical? Will a new one mitigate the issue?
It's a rare issue. Hopefully the new one won't have it.
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While it has nothing to do with picture quality, I wish Vizio would slim down their TVs a bit as they seem to get thicker each year. I know you can do FALD and thin together.
you can do FALD and "Thinner" together but not thin. Other than the Q9 at around 1.6" most other sets (Q8, x900F, M, P) all fall in the 2.3" to 2.7" range. The largest of the targeted FALD sets this year is the TCL R6 at nearly 3" thick. The 2018 M is actually slimmer than it was last year and while the 2018 P is thicker than 2017, it is similar to the 2016 version. At the end of the day it comes down to cost of manufacturing and an easy way to cut costs is in this area, which shouldn't be a big surprise given the fact they have reduced the msrp on the series like the "P" for 2018.

So while I don't disagree with you.... I personally don't want to pay a premium for an ultra thin fald lcd.
....like others have said I am interested to see what all the specs are of the P-Quantum ...but I kind of doubt it will be thinner than the 2.3" to 2.7" range.
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While it has nothing to do with picture quality, I wish Vizio would slim down their TVs a bit as they seem to get thicker each year. I know you can do FALD and thin together.
you can do FALD and "Thinner" together but not thin. Other than the Q9 at around 1.6" most other sets (Q8, x900F, M, P) all fall in the 2.3" to 2.7" range. The largest of the targeted FALD sets this year is the TCL R6 at nearly 3" thick. The 2018 M is actually slimmer than it was last year and while the 2018 P is thicker than 2017, it is similar to the 2016 version. At the end of the day it comes down to cost of manufacturing and an easy way to cut costs is in this area, which shouldn't be a big surprise given the fact they have reduced the msrp on the series like the "P" for 2018.

So while I don't disagree with you.... I personally don't want to pay a premium for an ultra thin fald lcd.
....like others have said I am interested to see what all the specs are of the P-Quantum ...but I kind of doubt it will be thinner than the 2.3" to 2.7" range.
It would also help if they would ditch the legacy connections on the back panel. HDMI, USB, eithernet and we are done.
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Ordered the P75 on the first day available. Took over 2 weeks to receive. (Dallas, TX)

It was delivered from a guy in a Jeep Grand Cherokee laying flat with the seats down....It fit somehow..but i mean it shouldn't have been delivered in this manner.

Got it mounted in our TV room and was watching world cup matches and also some youtube stuff....I was noticing these 'dots' on the top right hand corner when a white-ish scene was being shown.

We were moving all week so I barely watched the TV. Then Friday my dad and I sat down to really investigate this. Basically it is intermittent. It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does it is obvious.

Vizio is sending a replacement this week, which is great. Worried about if this is a broad issue.

Anyway, the TV looks great besides this!

Yep these are the backlight zones. Yours seem to be a little more pronounced than mine:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...l#post56338746

But I notice them too if I look carefully when the screen is displaying a uniform color. Your replacement set will likely be a little less obvious but you'll still see them if you look for them during a uniform color being shown. Remember there is an array of LED's at the back of the TV and then a diffuser goes over that which attempts to spread the light from each LED uniformly but it's difficult to get perfect diffusion.

Here is a video that shows what a full array LED back lit television looks like:

here is an explanation from rtings:

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/pict.../local-dimming


Unfortunately you need full array back lighting in order to have more precise control of dimming zones. Perhaps in your case the diffuser spacing is slightly off making the LED array a little more visible but just be aware it will never be perfectly uniform and so you will detect slight banding created by the array when the picture conditions are just right. Just the nature of the technology. Unfortunately this is currently the only way to approach the darkness levels of an OLED without going full OLED.

OLED solves many of these uniformity issues which is why OLEDs tend to be more uniform. Of course OLED comes with its own set of disadvantages as well.
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Ordered the P75 on the first day available. Took over 2 weeks to receive. (Dallas, TX)

It was delivered from a guy in a Jeep Grand Cherokee laying flat with the seats down....It fit somehow..but i mean it shouldn't have been delivered in this manner.
I would not have accepted delivery. Flat out would have said "no thank you" and sent that guy on his way.
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Just got the 65 myself for the living room and it has been quite a few years since I have gotten a new TV. What picture settings are people using?
2018 P-Series Calibration Tips

Please see attached and below for advanced 2018 P-Series picture quality settings explanations and calibration tips. The explanations assume an understanding of ISF type calibration, but if you have further questions, let us know.

Overall:
• Calibrated Dark: Use this picture mode for the most accurate reproduction of studio content when viewed in a dark
room. Xtreme Black Engine should default to Medium for HDR and Low for SDR; Gamma is set to 2.2.
• Calibrated: Use this picture mode for an accurate but bright reproduction of studio content when viewed in a
typically lit room. Xtreme Black Engine should be set to Medium for HDR and SDR; Gamma is set to 2.1.
• Game: Use this setting for the best gaming response. Game Low Latency and Clear Action are enabled. For
consoles, change the Color Temp setting to Normal (close to D6500K).
o Use Input 5 for non-HDR, 1080p signals—like those from a PC--with up to 120Hz refresh. Set the Color Temp
to “Computer”, which is roughly 9300K.

Setup
1. Select the Appropriate Input –
a. For the 2018 P-Series, HDMI inputs 1-4 accommodate HDMI 2.0a/HDCP 2.2 (600MHz pixel clock rate).
i. 2160p/60p, 4:4:4, 8-bit
ii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:2, 12-bit
iii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:0, 12-bit
b. HDMI 5 also accepts HDMI v1.4/HDCP2.2 signals (370MHz pixel clock rate). This will accept the following:
i. 2160p/60p, 4:2:2, 8-bit
ii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:0, 10-bit
iii. 1080p/120p, 4:4:4, 10-bit
iv. 1080p/120p, 4:2:2, 12-bit
c. Input 5 will likely offer the lowest lag time for gaming, but also has no scaling or HDR function and should only
be used with progressive or 4K signals.
d. Input 1 offers HDMI ARC.

2. Enable HDMI 2.0 signals for the HDR input, when needed (ie for newer UHD players and 4K/60 signals)
a. Go to the Menu>Settings>Inputs>Full UHD Color,
b. Enable the Full UHD Color for the input that you are using to support HDMI 2.0.
i. If you change the setting after your devices are connected, you may need to power cycle the source device to
restart the HDMI handshake.
ii. When Full UHD Color is enabled, the input may no longer accept the HDMI signal from older HDMI devices (like
your STB or BD player).
iii. Some players (Samsung and Oppo) playing most content (any 4K/24 movie) may not need the 2.0 input and
may play fine through v1.4 inputs even without the Full UHD Color setting enabled.
iv. “Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” is 4k/60 and will require the HDMI 2.0 setting/input.
v. Xbox and Philips UHD players require the HDMI 2.0 setting/input, regardless of the content played, as
do some 4K-capable streaming sticks and boxes.

3. Set the Picture Mode.
a. Go to the Menu, select Picture, then choose Picture Mode:
i. Vivid – preset for store showrooms
ii. Standard – For energy-efficient home viewing
iii. Calibrated – Settings are preset to be accurate for brighter room environments (gamma is set to 2.1)
iv. Calibrated Dark – More accurately calibrated settings for a dark room (gamma is set to 2.2).
v. Game Mode – optimizes settings for minimal input lag
vi. Computer Mode – Adjusts settings for PC images
b. Any picture mode can be adjusted to provide an accurate image.
c. The TV will auto-detect if the signal is SDR or HDR and will switch the Picture Mode to the corresponding HDR
settings, when needed.
i. With SDR signals: Both Calibrated and Calibrated Dark Picture Modes match closest to the Rec709 color gamut
and a D65 white point. “Calibrated” default gamma is closer to 2.1, where “Calibrated Dark” gamma is closer to
“2.2”.
ii. With HDR signals: The Calibrated and Calibrated Dark Picture Mode settings match closest to the most
accurate, or “Golden Reference” HDR characteristics for the displays, which means it will match as close as
possible to the SMPTE 2084 EOTF (or “PQ”) curve, and will offer as much of the Rec2020 color space as the display, and content, can
accommodate.
d. Changes made to any Picture Mode will create a Custom Picture mode (the picture mode will have an *asterisk next to the name).
Go to Picture Mode Edit to save the settings as a custom picture mode with a custom name.

4. Adjust Picture Menu settings (Brightness, Contrast, Color, Tint, Sharpness) to match your source and environment.
a. Backlight – For HDR signals, the accurate OSD “Backlight” setting is 50. When an HDR signal is recognized by the display, the
display luminance (backlight) is maximized, but the on-screen display setting says 50. With HDR signals, changes to the “Backlight”
control adjust the middle of the EOTF curve, making the image appear brighter. For SDR, this setting increases the backlight luminance.
b. Setting Sharpness to 0 will disable edge-enhancement.

5. Select “More Picture” for additional settings (the following are not necessarily in order):
a. Color Temperature – Changes the overall color temp. “Normal” is closest to the accurate D6500K setting. “Cool” is closer to the
panel’s native color, which leans blue (closer to 11000-15000K), but will provide the brightest measurement.
b. Black Detail – Changes the gamma curve near black to increase shadow detail. It has no effect in HDR.
c. Xtreme Black Engine – Select the low, medium or high setting to enable local dimming and peak brightness. Medium and High
settings offer better contrast with increased peak brightness in specular highlights. Lower the setting to eliminate halo or blooming
effects. When calibrating, it is best to keep this disabled, or use test patterns with Constant Average Picture Levels. When measuring for
Peak Brightness with small windows, we recommend the High setting. For regular viewing, we recommend the Medium setting.
i. Off – Local dimming and Peak Brightness are turned off.
ii. Low – Activates local dimming, no peak highlight brightness; peak highlights typically dim as the APL decreases so as to
minimize blooming.
iii. Med – Activates both local dimming and peak highlighting (brighter specular highlights) while still preserving black levels and
preventing most halos. Highlights measure brightest with 10-25% sized windows on a black background. This is the setting VIZIO
recommends for both HDR and SDR content.
iv. High – Activates aggressive local dimming and peak brightness settings for the highest contrast possible. Very small highlights
are brightest with 2-10% sized windows on a black background. Note that if you measure even smaller windows, you may not reach
the TV’s peak brightness value.
d. Clear Action – This setting changes the duty cycle of the backlight to mask the inherent “sample and hold” effect (and visible crystal
change) of liquid crystal display panels, thus allowing the user to see and follow motion in the image more clearly.
e. Game Low Latency – Select this setting to reduce image lag for video games. Note: lower lag is available in the HDMI 5 input (on
UHD models).
f. Reduce Judder (P-Series and higher) – The setting of this function determines how much MEMC is applied to 24 and 30 fps content.
Increasing this setting will reduce the stuttering that is inherent when we view 24 fps content on TV, making the content smooth and
more detailed. Set this function to 0 to eliminate the smoothing effect.
i. Eliminate 3-2 – When the “Reduce Judder” function is set to 0, and “Cinema Mode” is on, the film mode detection will match the
refresh rate of the panel at a multiple of the 24-fps content so that there is no 3-2 frame conversion, thus giving the viewer a true,
film-like appearance.
g. Reduce Motion Blur (where available) – The setting of this function determines how much MEMC is applied to 60 fps content.
Increasing the setting reduces the visibility of motion blur.
h. Color Space -- Select YCbCr for normal consumer HDMI sources (16-235). Select RGB for PC sources (0-255).
i. Gamma – Adjust the value to increase or decrease the gamma curve to the desired measured value. The 2.2 setting is typically the
most accurate for dark rooms with either SDR or HDR.
j. Cinema Mode/Film Mode – Creates the most film-like image.
i. With interlaced content, Film Mode enables 3-2 detection and compensation.
ii. With 24p content, the display will play back at an even multiple of 24 frames to preserve the film cadence.

6. For professional calibrators, select “Color Calibration” to fine-tune the picture when using calibration equipment.
a. Tips
i. Best to adjust the SDR signal first, then Dolby Vision and HDR10.
ii. Significant adjustments to the HDR10 CMS signal are not recommended as the display will tone/color map the incoming signal
while it’s being adjusted. Dolby Vision compensates for this with their Golden Reference target point.
iii. Adjust White Balance first; starting with a baseline “white” should reduce the amount of CMS fine-tuning that is needed.
b. 2-point White Balance calibration – In the Color Tuner menu.
i. Use the Offset and Gain controls to adjust the overall Color Temp at low (~20-30%) and high (~80%) levels.
1. Use the Offset controls sparingly.
2. Try not to raise the Offset more than a couple points, if at all, or it will raise the black level.
ii. Adjust the three RGB levels for Offset and Gain equally to change the Gamma curve.
1. For example, to lower the gamma, raise the red, green and blue Gain values, or vice versa.
2. As above, use the Offset controls as little as possible; don’t raise them.
c. 11-point White Balance calibration – From the top of the “Color Calibration” menu, cycle the menu from “Color Tuner” to “11-point
White Balance”.
i. Adjust the RGB values separately to fine-tune the Color Temp.
ii. Adjust the RGB values together to fine-tune the Gamma curve (i.e. increase all of them the same amount to decrease the
gamma curve at that specific point).
d. Color Tuner – Use the Hue, Saturation and Brightness controls to fine-tune the color gamut. View and compare the results from
different saturation levels to achieve the best balance.
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2018 P-Series Calibration Tips

Please see attached and below for advanced 2018 P-Series picture quality settings explanations and calibration tips. The explanations assume an understanding of ISF type calibration, but if you have further questions, let us know.

Overall:
•Calibrated Dark: Use this picture mode for the most accurate reproduction of studio content when viewed in a dark
room. Xtreme Black Engine should default to Medium for HDR and Low for SDR; Gamma is set to 2.2.
•Calibrated: Use this picture mode for an accurate but bright reproduction of studio content when viewed in a
typically lit room. Xtreme Black Engine should be set to Medium for HDR and SDR; Gamma is set to 2.1.
•Game: Use this setting for the best gaming response. Game Low Latency and Clear Action are enabled. For
consoles, change the Color Temp setting to Normal (close to D6500K).
oUse Input 5 for non-HDR, 1080p signals—like those from a PC--with up to 120Hz refresh. Set the Color Temp
to “Computer”, which is roughly 9300K.

Setup
1.Select the Appropriate Input –
a.For the 2018 P-Series, HDMI inputs 1-4 accommodate HDMI 2.0a/HDCP 2.2 (600MHz pixel clock rate).
i.2160p/60p, 4:4:4, 8-bit
ii.2160p/60p, 4:2:2, 12-bit
iii. 2160p/60p, 4:2:0, 12-bit
b.HDMI 5 also accepts HDMI v1.4/HDCP2.2 signals (370MHz pixel clock rate). This will accept the following:
i.2160p/60p, 4:2:2, 8-bit
ii.2160p/60p, 4:2:0, 10-bit
iii.1080p/120p, 4:4:4, 10-bit
iv.1080p/120p, 4:2:2, 12-bit
c.Input 5 will likely offer the lowest lag time for gaming, but also has no scaling or HDR function and should only
be used with progressive or 4K signals.
d.Input 1 offers HDMI ARC.

2.Enable HDMI 2.0 signals for the HDR input, when needed (ie for newer UHD players and 4K/60 signals)
a.Go to the Menu>Settings>Inputs>Full UHD Color,
b.Enable the Full UHD Color for the input that you are using to support HDMI 2.0.
i.If you change the setting after your devices are connected, you may need to power cycle the source device to
restart the HDMI handshake.
ii.When Full UHD Color is enabled, the input may no longer accept the HDMI signal from older HDMI devices (like
your STB or BD player).
iii.Some players (Samsung and Oppo) playing most content (any 4K/24 movie) may not need the 2.0 input and
may play fine through v1.4 inputs even without the Full UHD Color setting enabled.
iv.“Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk” is 4k/60 and will require the HDMI 2.0 setting/input.
v. Xbox and Philips UHD players require the HDMI 2.0 setting/input, regardless of the content played, as
do some 4K-capable streaming sticks and boxes.

3.Set the Picture Mode.
a.Go to the Menu, select Picture, then choose Picture Mode:
i.Vivid – preset for store showrooms
ii.Standard – For energy-efficient home viewing
iii.Calibrated – Settings are preset to be accurate for brighter room environments(gamma is set to 2.1)
iv.Calibrated Dark – More accurately calibrated settings for a dark room (gamma is set to 2.2).
v.Game Mode – optimizes settings for minimal input lag
vi.Computer Mode – Adjusts settings for PC images
b.Any picture mode can be adjusted to provide an accurate image.
c.The TV will auto-detect if the signal is SDR or HDR and will switch the Picture Mode to the corresponding HDR
settings, when needed.
i.With SDR signals: Both Calibrated and Calibrated Dark Picture Modes match closest to the Rec709 color gamut
and a D65 white point. “Calibrated” default gamma is closer to 2.1, where “Calibrated Dark” gamma is closer to
“2.2”.
ii. With HDR signals: The Calibrated and Calibrated Dark Picture Mode settings match closest to the most
accurate, or “Golden Reference” HDR characteristics for the displays, which means it will match as close as
possible to the SMPTE 2084 EOTF (or “PQ”) curve, and will offer as much of the Rec2020 color space as the display, and content, can
accommodate.
d.Changes made to any Picture Mode will create a Custom Picture mode (the picture mode will have an *asterisk next to the name).
Go to Picture Mode Edit to save the settings as a custom picture mode with a custom name.

4.Adjust Picture Menu settings (Brightness, Contrast, Color, Tint, Sharpness) to match your source and environment.
a.Backlight – For HDR signals, the accurate OSD “Backlight” setting is 50. When an HDR signal is recognized by the display, the
display luminance (backlight) is maximized, but the on-screen display setting says 50. With HDR signals, changes to the “Backlight”
control adjust the middle of the EOTF curve, making the image appear brighter. For SDR, this setting increases the backlight luminance.
b.Setting Sharpness to 0 will disable edge-enhancement.

5.Select “More Picture” for additional settings (the following are not necessarily in order):
a.Color Temperature – Changes the overall color temp. “Normal” is closest to the accurate D6500K setting. “Cool” is closer to the
panel’s native color, which leans blue (closer to 11000-15000K), but will provide the brightest measurement.
b.Black Detail – Changes the gamma curve near black to increase shadow detail. It has no effect in HDR.
c.Xtreme Black Engine – Select the low, medium or high setting to enable local dimming and peak brightness. Medium and High
settings offer better contrast with increased peak brightness in specular highlights. Lower the setting to eliminate halo or blooming
effects. When calibrating, it is best to keep this disabled, or use test patterns with Constant Average Picture Levels. When measuring for
Peak Brightness with small windows, we recommend the High setting. For regular viewing, we recommend the Medium setting.
i.Off – Local dimming and Peak Brightness are turned off.
ii.Low – Activates local dimming, no peak highlight brightness; peak highlights typically dim as the APL decreases so as to
minimize blooming.
iii.Med – Activates both local dimming and peak highlighting (brighter specular highlights) while still preserving black levels and
preventing most halos. Highlights measure brightest with 10-25% sized windows on a black background. This is the setting VIZIO
recommends for both HDR and SDR content.
iv.High – Activates aggressive local dimming and peak brightness settings for the highest contrast possible. Very small highlights
are brightest with 2-10% sized windows on a black background. Note that if you measure even smaller windows, you may not reach
the TV’s peak brightness value.
d.Clear Action – This setting changes the duty cycle of the backlight to mask the inherent “sample and hold” effect (and visible crystal
change) of liquid crystal display panels, thus allowing the user to see and follow motion in the image more clearly.
e.Game Low Latency – Select this setting to reduce image lag for video games. Note: lower lag is available in the HDMI 5 input (on
UHD models).
f.Reduce Judder (P-Series and higher) – The setting of this function determines how much MEMC is applied to 24 and 30 fps content.
Increasing this setting will reduce the stuttering that is inherent when we view 24 fps content on TV, making the content smooth and
more detailed. Set this function to 0 to eliminate the smoothing effect.
i.Eliminate 3-2 – When the “Reduce Judder” function is set to 0, and “Cinema Mode” is on, the film mode detection will match the
refresh rate of the panel at a multiple of the 24-fps content so that there is no 3-2 frame conversion, thus giving the viewer a true,
film-like appearance.
g.Reduce Motion Blur (where available) – The setting of this function determines how much MEMC is applied to 60 fps content.
Increasing the setting reduces the visibility of motion blur.
h.Color Space -- Select YCbCr for normal consumer HDMI sources (16-235). Select RGB for PC sources (0-255).
i.Gamma – Adjust the value to increase or decrease the gamma curve to the desired measured value. The 2.2 setting is typically the
most accurate for dark rooms with either SDR or HDR.
j.Cinema Mode/Film Mode – Creates the most film-like image.
i.With interlaced content, Film Mode enables 3-2 detection and compensation.
ii. With 24p content, the display will play back at an even multiple of 24 frames to preserve the film cadence.

6.For professional calibrators, select “Color Calibration” to fine-tune the picture when using calibration equipment.
a.Tips
i.Best to adjust the SDR signal first, then Dolby Vision and HDR10.
ii. Significant adjustments to the HDR10 CMS signal are not recommended as the display will tone/color map the incoming signal
while it’s being adjusted. Dolby Vision compensates for this with their Golden Reference target point.
iii. Adjust White Balance first; starting with a baseline “white” should reduce the amount of CMS fine-tuning that is needed.
b.2-point White Balance calibration – In the Color Tuner menu.
i.Use the Offset and Gain controls to adjust the overall Color Temp at low (~20-30%) and high (~80%) levels.
1.Use the Offset controls sparingly.
2.Try not to raise the Offset more than a couple points, if at all, or it will raise the black level.
ii. Adjust the three RGB levels for Offset and Gain equally to change the Gamma curve.
1.For example, to lower the gamma, raise the red, green and blue Gain values, or vice versa.
2.As above, use the Offset controls as little as possible; don’t raise them.
c.11-point White Balance calibration – From the top of the “Color Calibration” menu, cycle the menu from “Color Tuner” to “11-point
White Balance”.
i.Adjust the RGB values separately to fine-tune the Color Temp.
ii.Adjust the RGB values together to fine-tune the Gamma curve (i.e. increase all of them the same amount to decrease the
gamma curve at that specific point).
d.Color Tuner – Use the Hue, Saturation and Brightness controls to fine-tune the color gamut. View and compare the results from
different saturation levels to achieve the best balance.
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My P75-C1 Calibration Settings (5.0.14.1).
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I have an Xbox1x And I Watch 4K movies and play games so I need to switch between modes depending on what I’m doing. If you don’t use your console for 4K movies then just leave your console in game mode and that HDMI will keep those settings.


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Ok I gotcha. Just trying to determine if the TV is "smart" enough to know if you're playing a game or watching sports on cable. My JVC does this so just wondering if it had that ability. Thanks
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I've had it happen 3-4 times in the last two weeks while using the PS4 Pro, FWIW.


Ugh, kind of thinking I should just return it to Costco now. If it helps, I sent a quick video of my issue to Vizio along with the needed warranty info and I was offered an in home replacement within 24 hours. Let me know if they have a different take for you.
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I was in your same predicament between the P and the 900F, and ultimately went for the P based on the price difference, and i am thoroughly please with my decision.
I was also considering a 75 in 900f or Samsung Q8. But with the recent reviews of the P, decided to order it instead. Price difference and extended warranty through Costco made the decision much easier. Now waiting on delivery...
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what is a good calibration for a lit room like a living room? I see specifics for dark but no numbers for just calibrated mode
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what is a good calibration for a lit room like a living room? I see specifics for dark but no numbers for just calibrated mode
Calibrations are only good for the specific unit it was calibrated for. Using someone elses posted calibration settings is not valid.

For daytime / well lit rooms set the display to calibrated picture mode using factory settings. That's it.
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Nice to see more impressions. Think I am going to go witth the 55 p over the TCL 55 R617. Has anyone noticed any judder wit 24p via 60i/60p wit no motion enhancemets on as pointed out in Rtings review?
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Calibrations are only good for the specific unit it was calibrated for. Using someone elses posted calibration settings is not valid.
There's no harm with experimenting with others calibrations. Find something you like and use it.
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I got the P75 over the weekend and I love the picture quality.

I ran into one issue with ARC. I plugged HDMI into HDMI1. i have a pioneer receiver. Somehow sound doesn't come out and display on pioneer cycles through Dolby, PCM. Ended up using Optical cable. Any suggestions on what might be going on with ARC not working?
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Ok I gotcha. Just trying to determine if the TV is "smart" enough to know if you're playing a game or watching sports on cable. My JVC does this so just wondering if it had that ability. Thanks


So your TV knows if your Xbox is streaming a 4K Netflix show or a Xbox game?


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I got the P75 over the weekend and I love the picture quality.

I ran into one issue with ARC. I plugged HDMI into HDMI1. i have a pioneer receiver. Somehow sound doesn't come out and display on pioneer cycles through Dolby, PCM. Ended up using Optical cable. Any suggestions on what might be going on with ARC not working?
I think You have to enable CEC..
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No not quite. It knows when the Xbox is in use so it enables game mode automatically. It will also turn game mode off when the Xbox is not in use. If I want to watch a football game on live tv via DIRECTV it turns game mode off.
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No not quite. It knows when the Xbox is in use so it enables game mode automatically. It will also turn game mode off when the Xbox is not in use. If I want to watch a football game on live tv via DIRECTV it turns game mode off.


You will have them in different inputs right? If so then the Vizio does the same thing. You can edit each input to your liking and it will keep those settings.


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For those of us with a single HDMI cable from media closet to TV, are there Harmony IR remote codes to quickly change Picture mode? I'd rather not have to get some sort of diplexer going behind the TV.

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How far apart are the feet on the P55? Can a person set it up by themselves? I will have to.
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Its the end of the month practically. Shoudnt the PQ tv be available by now?...
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Its the end of the month practically. Shoudnt the PQ tv be available by now?...
Expected initial rollout is between END of June and MID July
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