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Measuring native contrast ratio is a cinch since this TV offers the option to turn off FALD. 5350:1 is what I measure. That's consistent with the ratio I see on VA panels that have reasonably good viewing angles.

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Weird, my p607 supports everything except 50hz. Did you change the input settings to HDMI 2.0?

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well I don't know what is going on.
delivery sat 4/28
my delivery on Fedx says Delivery 4/28

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Shipping label has been created. The status will be updated when shipment begins to travel.

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Mines been in Tenesse since early this morning after leaving that place in California. Stills says I'll get it by 430pm.

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I need clarification on 2 points. I was going to buy in the fall, but I've seen the $999 mentioned as an introductory price. Second, can I buy the 615 and buy the remote with the voice control and have it work? I'd rather use BB financing and ease of return.
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Nice. Congratulations. I'm supposed to get mine today but I'm not confident I will since the UPS site doesn't even show it has been received by them. If you don't mind me asking, when did you order and what part of the country are you in?


I live in Rockland county NY. I ordered mine at like 3am on Friday (it was an insomnia driven purchase). Got mine today at around 11am.


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Did yours have Prime or did it make you select a delievery date? I ordered mine around the same time. Prime still wasn't available for me yet.

May 4th was the earliest I could get mine. And it's being delivered through Pilot. Who I've never had any dealings with.
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I need clarification on 2 points. I was going to buy in the fall, but I've seen the $999 mentioned as an introductory price. Second, can I buy the 615 and buy the remote with the voice control and have it work? I'd rather use BB financing and ease of return.
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They'll be sales no doubt around black Friday don't worry. I got the 55X900E for 868 last Black Friday.

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Weird, my p607 supports everything except 50hz. Did you change the input settings to HDMI 2.0?

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Not that i know of...i need to check. Have to run errands now unfortunately


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I had to change the hdmi settings in my Samsung KS8000 before I got all green check marks. I know it's a different TV. But I wouldn't be surprised if you have to do something similar
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I had to change the hdmi settings in my Samsung KS8000 before I got all green check marks. I know it's a different TV. But I wouldn't be surprised if you have to do something similar
Yeah everyone I ever owned I had to change the settings. Ks8000, C7, P607. Screwed me up a few times when trying to hook it up.

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I need clarification on 2 points. I was going to buy in the fall, but I've seen the $999 mentioned as an introductory price. Second, can I buy the 615 and buy the remote with the voice control and have it work? I'd rather use BB financing and ease of return.
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Someone tried linking a thread from the roku forums (post #426 in this thread) but the link is busted. It said you could buy the voice remote and it would work.

TCL said on their Twitter yesterday that you couldn't buy the voice remote and use it with the best buy model. Conflicting info for sure
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Also, for anyone with the new set, did they improve the sound at all? I have a sound bar but this one will be going in the gameroom and would rather not have to buy another sound bar. Thanks.

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Measuring native contrast ratio is a cinch since this TV offers the option to turn off FALD. 5350:1 is what I measure. That's consistent with the ratio I see on VA panels that have reasonably good viewing angles.
Excellent. So this year's model seems to be using a different panel? I just want to make sure I've understood what you've said. The viewing angles are improved this year, but the native contrast is a bit lower? If that's the case that's ok with me.

Will you be measuring the contrast ratio with FALD turned on as you usually do?
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Here is a review I found online, don't know if it has been posted.

http://televisions.reviewed.com/cont...ries-tv-review
Interesting:

Because Blu-rays play back at 24fps, they sometimes struggle to play with total smoothness on 60 Hz TVs like the TCL 6 Series. During the movie's shaky, jarring plane crashes and action scenes, there were times I found myself distracted by blurring and juddering, especially during trickier camera pans.

It's a nitpick, however. Unless you're extremely sensitive to motion drawbacks, you probably won't take any issue with the TV's motion performance. Still, maybe 2019 will yield a 60/120 Hz variant option in this lineup instead of different remote controls.
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Measuring native contrast ratio is a cinch since this TV offers the option to turn off FALD. 5350:1 is what I measure. That's consistent with the ratio I see on VA panels that have reasonably good viewing angles.
Can you post Spectral response? Want to compare with my P605.

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Because Blu-rays play back at 24fps, they sometimes struggle to play with total smoothness on 60 Hz TVs like the TCL 6 Series. During the movie's shaky, jarring plane crashes and action scenes, there were times I found myself distracted by blurring and juddering, especially during trickier camera pans.

It's a nitpick, however. Unless you're extremely sensitive to motion drawbacks, you probably won't take any issue with the TV's motion performance. Still, maybe 2019 will yield a 60/120 Hz variant option in this lineup instead of different remote controls.
So is that a TV problem or a 24p problem? There shouldn't be any additional judder introduced when using a 24p signal, only a 24p via 60p signal right?
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The 60 hz thing would be the only thing holding me from making this my main TV for the home theater. I have 900E and the motion is extremely good.

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Did yours have Prime or did it make you select a delievery date? I ordered mine around the same time. Prime still wasn't available for me yet.

May 4th was the earliest I could get mine. And it's being delivered through Pilot. Who I've never had any dealings with.


I have prime and it gave me the $29 option for expedited delivery.


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Well, my OLED supported more of this stuff than this Tv....


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I am confused as to why most of these options aren't supported. Why is HDR10 not supported?? I bought the 65" from amazon but if the TV isn't going to support anything then I might have to look for something else. My 2014 Vizio P series at least "supports up to native 4k for gaming".
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Did yours have Prime or did it make you select a delievery date? I ordered mine around the same time. Prime still wasn't available for me yet.

May 4th was the earliest I could get mine. And it's being delivered through Pilot. Who I've never had any dealings with.


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That's very weird. I have Prime and it never gave me the option to use it. I only had one option and May 4th was the earliest I could get it
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I am confused as to why most of these options aren't supported. Why is HDR10 not supported?? I bought the 65" from amazon but if the TV isn't going to support anything then I might have to look for something else. My 2014 Vizio P series at least "supports up to native 4k for gaming".
You just have to change your hdmi settings. No need to worry
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If anyone actually ever gets to talking about the performance of this set, I like to know how it compares to the 2016 Vizio P series. I own the P50-C1 and looking to replace it with a 65" and very interested in what improvements if any this set brings to the table.


I’m glad you asked because I own the P50-C1 and just picked this up yesterday. From a performance standpoint and my opinion, the Vizio has a better picture quality. The areas that the tcl beats it in are a little bit better viewing angles, somewhat brighter HDR and the actual frame of the tv is very nice. It looks like a high end television.

The Vizio in my opinion has a more saturated look to it. Something about this TCL especially in HDR has a blown out contrast kind of look that even after adjusting backlight and contrast still doesn’t go away. The Vizio also has better Motion and what felt like better gaming performance when it comes to lag.

Now in saying that, the Vizio cost much more than the TCL so as far as value, I don’t think this tv can be beat. I’m afraid some people will get this tv expecting somewhat of a revelation but I hate to say it’s not. The picture is good. And if you’ve seen last years it’s improved on that. But it’s a little overhyped in my opinion. Love to hear what more people think. This is just my opinion. And I’m spoiled by my OLED so nothing really compares :-)


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What HDMI settings do you actually need to change? My Vizio doesn't even have any HDMI options in the menu but it is from 2014 lol
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To purchase a 65” HDR set with this caliber, is simply jaw dropping.

Just think, when I bought my first rear projection state of the art, 65 Hitachi TV from a Video Only in San Mateo CA, that was the best you could buy in those days, for a meer $ 3600.00 dollars out the door.

I have to say, once I learned how to calibrate my Hitachi, using the convergence template overlay and adjusting the color temperature parameters, the picture quality was stunning.

To this day, I still miss my 238 pound Hitachi rear projection TV.

The only reason I did not keep my Hitachi, the home that my wife inherited from her parents after the both died, we moved into the home and the way the front room was laid out, this big boxy TV would not fit in properly for my then current 7.1.0 sound system.

To move this story along, I purchased my Anthem MRX 1120 AVR receiver over two years ago and upgraded my all my speakers to the KEF Q series, except for my upfiring speakers, which are the KEF R50 Atmos speakers. I also purchased the JL Audio E-110 subwoofer along with the Samsung 55” 8500 Series TV, which the picture quality is stunning.

All in all, I spent a chunk of money on my new 7.1.4 Atmos system, which the sound is unreal and picture quality is stunning.

I don’t have to go to the movie theaters ever again, unless my wife and I want to relive the cinematic movie experience.

I know I’m running way off track, but the new TLC series of HDR televisions is a real bargain, but with quality at the same.
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You just have to change your hdmi settings. No need to worry


Can someone help me to fix this? Do i fix it via the xbox or through the TVs settings somehow?

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got to wondering if TCL numbered their car 55 on purpose, the race is on, enjoy your new toy 55R617 1st adopters

(Mark, wasn't "trying" to be rude or unsympathetic to how busy & hectic you've been with this release on earlier post. Yes - folks got excited, me too! Just thought at the moment the topic got all blown up with ordering & shipping chatter. Everyone was having a good time, it was difficult drilling down to actual thread topic conversation, sorry man, i'll make it up to you next i visit where i was born & raised, W Philly,(talk about out of context!?!))
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I’m glad you asked because I own the P50-C1 and just picked this up yesterday. From a performance standpoint and my opinion, the Vizio has a better picture quality. The areas that the tcl beats it in are a little bit better viewing angles, somewhat brighter HDR and the actual frame of the tv is very nice. It looks like a high end television.

The Vizio in my opinion has a more saturated look to it. Something about this TCL especially in HDR has a blown out contrast kind of look that even after adjusting backlight and contrast still doesn’t go away. The Vizio also has better Motion and what felt like better gaming performance when it comes to lag.

Now in saying that, the Vizio cost much more than the TCL so as far as value, I don’t think this tv can be beat. I’m afraid some people will get this tv expecting somewhat of a revelation but I hate to say it’s not. The picture is good. And if you’ve seen last years it’s improved on that. But it’s a little overhyped in my opinion. Love to hear what more people think. This is just my opinion. And I’m spoiled by my OLED so nothing really compares :-)


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Thanks for this. I have been thinking of replacing my P65-C1 with the TCL and even at such a low price, if there is not a a significant upgrade in picture quality, I will probably hold out for this summer when Vizio’s quantum dot TV is supposed to arrive.
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First impressions

Received my 65R617 an hour ago.

Compared to my 55P607:

Better

Larger 65 vs 55
Better looking

Same

Good: Contrast, brightness, uniformity, ...bad: reflections (much too high, glaring weakness)

Worse

Heavier, higher power consumption,

After dark I'll do more critical viewing. I'm not a gamer nor BD watcher. Mostly streaming Netflix Amazon YouTube.
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Yeah, as above, unless it's a real improvement I'll go elsewhere. My plan was to get a Sony 930e and I guess I'll stick to that plan.
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uniformity being the same is disappointing. this tv had bottom of the barrel uniformity last year
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Wait, I can understand refunding the $30 but they gave you 25% off the entire TV just for it being late? That's insane.

Yes, I have an email confirm from the Amazon tech Concierge confirming refund amount of ~$280 total. Email says refund will be completed in 3-5 biz days.
Javalee2, I sent you a private message. When you get a sec if you could reply I’d greatly appreciate it 🙂. Thanks!
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