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Well, another Amazon/Fedex shipment bites the dust. šŸ˜¢
I took the risk and ordered Friday. Came today with several holes in the box, the biggest in the lower mid portion of the back. The plastic on the lower back of the set was cracked as a result. I crossed my fingers and plugged it up, but no picture.


Now, do I refund or replace with Amazon? Do I have to send the broken set back either way? What a disappointing hassle.

I kind of wonder if you pick the ā€œdisguise contentsā€ option at checkout if they would pack them better. šŸ™„
ouch.. seeing those pictures hurt
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I probably asked this already but has anyone compared this set to the 2016 Vizio P series yet? I am not expecting a huge upgrade, but I like to get something a bit bigger but don't want to blow the bank while we are still in a transition period as far as specs and such go.
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After much contemplation, review-scouring, posts in both TCL & Vizio threads, and general discussions, I finally pulled the trigger.

Ordered the 55R615 from Best Buy. I didn't need the Roku features or the voice remote feature, so was happy to save the $50. Best Buy has scheduled delivery for this Saturday morning.

I was stuck between 55R615 and Vizio's upcoming P55-F1. While I had started to lean towards Vizio over the last few days, the price difference was beginning to seem more & more unjustified, in my case.

I needed a 55" 4K set w/ HDR & Dolby Vision exclusively & only for Gaming. No media/movies/tv, etc. Initially TCL fit the budget & needs perfectly, but then I started seeing some discouraging stories about delivery, banding & performance. Which shifted me to Vizio. Vizio still might have a tad better performance, especially with the 120Hz screen -- but the price difference just couldn't justify in my mind. Then I began to find some outstanding reviews of the set, including real world experiences from set owners at home - especially in the Gaming area. I think that pretty much sealed the deal.

My Best Buy is 7 minutes from home. If the set or box does arrive damaged, or there's dead pixels etc, it's not going to be hard to replace. So I'm not worried about that. I'll test both HDR & Dolby Vision games on day one to make sure I'm satisfied. As long as I can get my money's worth - what I paid for it - I'll be happy.

Will let you guys know.

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I love that CNET posted their calibration settings, but using them, I find the colors are just a bit muted using the movie setting, even on brightest. Using 'normal' with normal brightness, nature scenes and 4k stuff just really pops for me. Has anyone else tried out the calibrations settings yet? Just a disclaimer, I have a lame windows phone so I couldnt change the noise or gamma settings
I found the same thing with last years P-Series and the recommended settings. MOVIE mode just put up a muted yellowish haze that I could not get past. I still find that the NORMAL picture mode with WARM Color Temp setting is the most pleasing for my viewing. It removes the muted effect of MOVIE and the WARM Color Temp creates good color balance between nature scenes and skin tones.

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As someone who isn't as teach savvy as others on this forum....am I better off with the TCL 65" over this year's or last year's M-Series 65" from Vizio? This TV is in our family room (I have a projector downstairs) and will be used frequently, but not as a full on theater tv.

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I probably asked this already but has anyone compared this set to the 2016 Vizio P series yet? I am not expecting a huge upgrade, but I like to get something a bit bigger but don't want to blow the bank while we are still in a transition period as far as specs and such go.
I'm in the same boat. I purchased a P55-E1 mid last year, I regret not getting a 65 inch. I've been lurking threads about this TV and don't know if it would be worth it to move my 55 into the bedroom and pick up a 617 for my living room. I love the Roku interface compared to Vizios Smartcast, (annoying having to grab my phone to stream from HBOGO and SlingTV.)
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I can't seem to find official specs for this TV. Does it have CEC? Is CEC pretty much standard on all TVs today?
YES. It does have HDMI-CEC capability. Roku menu in SETTINGS -- SYSTEM - CONTROL OTHER DEVICES (CEC) gives you access to enable ARC (HDMI 3), SYSTEM AUDIO CONTROL, 1-TOUCH PLAY and SYSTEM STANDBY settings.
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Not the question you are asking but as an FYI the Roku Enhanced Voice Remote with TV power and volume buttons RC193, works with the 55R617 but the headphones jack does NOT work. (or at least I cant get it to work)
I also have the 55R617 purchased from Best Buy without the enhanced remote. Is there any Roku remote that I can purchase that will give me a working headphone jack. I've tried to use headphones with the iOS app but the audio is way out of sync.
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Im curious how far you folks are sitting from the TV?

For me, the 55" was a holy cow batman moment! it simply looked stunning. In the bedroom I am about 11.5 feet back from the screen. Everything looks better. On 4K material especially..I did not think I would see a difference from 1080p, but I really do..much sharper, more resolution, better colors..almost a 3D type affect not projecting our from the screen but inside the screen..much more depth.

I have read forever the charts that say "if you are X feet from the screen, you will need a TV at 100" to see a difference." I'm 50 years old.. my vision is 20/20 (just had my vision checked) still but I do use reading glasses from time to time. And I can to throw the charts away.

Now comes the fun part.... In the living room I have a 2013 Panasonic P65VT60 65" plasma (last year they made plasmas I think). Im wondering should I replace with a TCL 65 or wait til a TCL 75" comes out later this year or next year? I'm 13.5 feet back from that TV
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Im curious how far you folks are sitting from the TV?

For me, the 55" was a holy cow batman moment! it simply looked stunning. In the bedroom I am about 11 feet back from the screen. Everything looks better. On 4K material especially..I did not think I would see a difference from 1080p, but I really do..much sharper, more resolution, better colors..almost a 3D type affect not projecting our from the screen but inside the screen..much more depth.

I have read forever the charts that say "if you are X feet from the screen, you will need a TV at 100" to see a difference." I'm 50 years old.. my vision is 20/20 (just had my vision checked) still but I do use reading glasses from time to time. And I can to throw the charts away.

Now comes the fun part.... In the living room I have a 2013 Panasonic P65VT60 65" plasma (last year they made plasmas I think). Im wondering should I replace with a TCL 65 or wait til a TCL 75" comes out later this year or next year?
I have my 55" in my living room and sit probably 10' away. You can for sure tell a huge difference from my 1080p 47" vizio I replaced.
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Those with the 65" and using the legs, does your tv lean back slightly? Just curious if this is a side effect of inverted legs or just made this way for balance.
Check your feet and the bottom of the TV where they mount. There was a little tab on the bottom of the TV where the feet mount that made you only be able to mount each leg one way. When you inverted, you needed to swap the feet. If you don't, it may not be seated 100 correctly. Anyway, just a guess. Double check it.

Also, there could be a slight angle to whatever it's sitting on that is exaggerated by the huge TV. Pull out a level and check.
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Looks like some new retail outlets have been added to TCL's Where to Buy selection. PCRichard, Brandsmart, and Electronics Express will be joining Amazon as a choice for the 607.
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Im curious how far you folks are sitting from the TV?

For me, the 55" was a holy cow batman moment! it simply looked stunning. In the bedroom I am about 11.5 feet back from the screen. Everything looks better. On 4K material especially..I did not think I would see a difference from 1080p, but I really do..much sharper, more resolution, better colors..almost a 3D type affect not projecting our from the screen but inside the screen..much more depth.

I have read forever the charts that say "if you are X feet from the screen, you will need a TV at 100" to see a difference." I'm 50 years old.. my vision is 20/20 (just had my vision checked) still but I do use reading glasses from time to time. And I can to throw the charts away.

Now comes the fun part.... In the living room I have a 2013 Panasonic P65VT60 65" plasma (last year they made plasmas I think). Im wondering should I replace with a TCL 65 or wait til a TCL 75" comes out later this year or next year? I'm 13.5 feet back from that TV
I am one of the crazy guys that sits at a little less than 6 feet from the 65" model, and the detail and immersion at that distance is insane. I was about that same distance from the 55" model from last year after I talked my wife into rearranging our living room seating to accommodate, and I think that even she has bought into the experience now at this closer distance.
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I am one of the crazy guys that sits at a little less than 6 feet from the 65" model, and the detail and immersion at that distance is insane. I was about that same distance from the 55" model from last year after I talked my wife into rearranging our living room seating to accommodate, and I think that even she has bought into the experience now at this closer distance.


My wife still makes fun of me when I move my easy chair that close to the 65ā€. I love immersion.


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I am one of the crazy guys that sits at a little less than 6 feet from the 65" model, and the detail and immersion at that distance is insane. I was about that same distance from the 55" model from last year after I talked my wife into rearranging our living room seating to accommodate, and I think that even she has bought into the experience now at this closer distance.
I am about that distance as well. I thought it was going to be a problem at first, but when I got it hooked up and started watching stuff, I was like, "This is awesome!" Ha ha.
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It depends on how your audio is setup. are you using the TV speakers? I would assume you are using a receiver, either direct hdmi or optical out to your receiver. Make sure both the TV settings and the xboxs audio out are set correctly.

If you could give some info on your particular setup it could help identify the issue.

This happens sometimes when one of the links in the chain is expecting one thing and getting another. An example is the xbox outputting 5.1 but the receiver playing it as pcm 2 channel. So you are hearing the left and right channels at normal volume and it's not processing the rest of the 5.1 signal.

I think that makes sense, I took off work today, having a few beers and powering through God of War and man I gotta say this TV looks damn good!

I was having this issue with just the Xbox X to the TV, I added a soundbar to hopefully solve my issue but the sound issues persists when in game on Xbox.
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Anyone willing to be kind enough to let me know if they could hook up their PC or Laptop and let me know how far this screen can push for hz? I know it's a 60hz panel but could you OC it to at least 75-85hz IN 1080p mode for my HTPC? Need to make a custom nvidia profile under "change resolution". I really wish this TV panel had a native 120hz and would be instant buy for me. I think I might just hold back and wait for the new vizio p series 2018 line up to come out.

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I am one of the crazy guys that sits at a little less than 6 feet from the 65" model, and the detail and immersion at that distance is insane. I was about that same distance from the 55" model from last year after I talked my wife into rearranging our living room seating to accommodate, and I think that even she has bought into the experience now at this closer distance.
Make that two. Me & my wife are both about immersion. With our larger, projector screen of 150", we're a about 9 feet away.

From my 55" gaming screen, I sit about 4 - 5 feet away, which would pretty much translate to 6 feet from 65". The immersion is tremendous and makes an impact. And I'm hoping my incoming 55R615 on Saturday morning for my Gaming will make an outstanding impact at that distance.
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I am about that distance as well. I thought it was going to be a problem at first, but when I got it hooked up and started watching stuff, I was like, "This is awesome!" Ha ha.
I'm 4 - 5 ft from my 65R617

At what distance is UHD vs HD noticeable on 65in tv?

8 ft for full HD
4 ft for full UHD
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Finally got my 55R617 from Amazon that I ordered on 4/26! Pilot delivered right at the end of their delivery window. Brown box with no external damage. Haven't had much time to scrutinize or change any settings but from first look I don't see any banding. Some very minor DSE but it's not noticeable at all when viewing content. Can't wait to get home and really put it through its paces.
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Got a bit of an issue I need to solve with the 55" BB version. My older receiver can't handle ARC, If I recall someone posted the HDMI is 1.3, so I'm using an optical cable to feed my Onkyo TX-NR807 ( I've very happy with it BTW....) but I have an audio sync issue. Anyone else seen this? I can adjust for the difference, but it is difficult. There is a Sync options but without video it's really not functional. Any easy tricks to set the timing right?

For the heck of it I tried feeding back an HDMI cable from HDMI 3 just in case it would work, but no go.

Other than that I'm 80% happy with the display. Just waiting on my new colorimeter to arrive so I can properly calibrate the display, Out of the box not bad but I've been watching a pro calibrated display for a decade and the red push is obnoxious.
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Im curious how far you folks are sitting from the TV?

For me, the 55" was a holy cow batman moment! it simply looked stunning. In the bedroom I am about 11.5 feet back from the screen. Everything looks better. On 4K material especially..I did not think I would see a difference from 1080p, but I really do..much sharper, more resolution, better colors..almost a 3D type affect not projecting our from the screen but inside the screen..much more depth.

I have read forever the charts that say "if you are X feet from the screen, you will need a TV at 100" to see a difference." I'm 50 years old.. my vision is 20/20 (just had my vision checked) still but I do use reading glasses from time to time. And I can to throw the charts away.

Now comes the fun part.... In the living room I have a 2013 Panasonic P65VT60 65" plasma (last year they made plasmas I think). Im wondering should I replace with a TCL 65 or wait til a TCL 75" comes out later this year or next year? I'm 13.5 feet back from that TV
This is probably the best resource for distance from a TV: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by...e-relationship

So, according to you the specs you gave us, you're getting about a 20 degree view of the screen at 11 feet away from a 55". At that distance, you're on the line between whether 720p content is distinguishable from 1080p. Let's be generous and say that your eyesight and discernment is very good, so 1080p is definitely worth it. You're still not really getting much actual 4k detail. Now, the colors and HDR of the screen will still be a "wow" moment, but at that distance you can't possibly be seeing much difference between 4k SDR and a normal bluray.

For your second TV, you have about the same arc of viewing at 20 degrees. That's compared to the recommended view of 30 degrees for mixed usage. Again, you're in the gray zone between whether you could even tell the difference between a 720p video and 1080p video, encoding quality being equal. So I'm happy that you're happy, but yeah, you're not really sitting close enough to the TV to get any benefit from 4k. You are probably seeing a lot of new color and dynamic range detail, and not much of the sharpness beyond "yeah, it's sharp!"

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I'm 4 - 5 ft from my 65R617

At what distance is UHD vs HD noticeable on 65in tv?

8 ft for full HD
4 ft for full UHD
With the same source, you are sitting way too close to your TV, even for Cinema use. 6 feet is the sweet spot. You're still in the Ultra HD range for detail, so you won't be seeing individual pixels, but that viewing range is probably uncomfortable. I'm just imagining you swinging your head back and forth constantly just to see what's going on on the screen...

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Anyone willing to be kind enough to let me know if they could hook up their PC or Laptop and let me know how far this screen can push for hz? I know it's a 60hz panel but could you OC it to at least 75-85hz? Need to make a custom nvidia profile under "change resolution". I really wish this TV panel had a native 120hz and would be instant buy for me. I think I might just hold back and wait for the new vizio p series 2018 line up to come out.

It doesn't matter what the TV supports, no one is going to get more than 60 Hz at 4k. That's a hard limit on HDMI 2.0 bandwidth. Going beyond that bandwidth could lead to the PC or TV port getting fried. Perhaps the TCL can be overdriven at 1080p or 1440p, but I doubt it. TV's have a lot more signal processing and abstraction than PC monitors. It will probably just not display at higher refreshes, or skip frames. Who knows, I'm curious too!

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I also have the 55R617 purchased from Best Buy without the enhanced remote. Is there any Roku remote that I can purchase that will give me a working headphone jack. I've tried to use headphones with the iOS app but the audio is way out of sync.
I dont believe so, I was hoping it would work with referenced remote but it does not out of the box. I will play with it a bit more but not hopeful.

Was thinking of a solution utilizing the headphone jack and bluetooth but I believe once something is plugged into the headphone jack the tv's speakers are disabled, which would not work in my situation.
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This is probably the best resource for distance from a TV: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by...e-relationship




With the same source, you are sitting way too close to your TV, even for Cinema use. 6 feet is the sweet spot. You're still in the Ultra HD range for detail, so you won't be seeing individual pixels, but that viewing range is probably uncomfortable. I'm just imagining you swinging your head back and forth constantly just to see what's going on on the screen...




According to rtings, for a 65 inch tv, 4.1 ft is the optimum viewing distance for 4k. So at 4-5 ft i'm in the sweat spot for 4k viewing.

"The chart also shows that a 4k upgrade is tnot worth it if you are sitting more than 6' away and have a 50" TV. Your eyes won't be able to tell the difference. Ultra HD only makes sense if you want a really big screen and plan on sitting closer to it. Learn more about 4k UHD."

Screen Size Optimal Distance
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25" 3.2' (0.98 m) 1.5' (0.46 m)
30" 3.8' (1.16 m) 1.7' (0.52 m)
35" 4.4' (1.35 m) 2' (0.61 m)
40" 5.1' (1.56 m) 2.3' (0.71 m)
45" 5.7' (1.74 m) 2.6' (0.8 m)
50" 6.3' (1.93 m) 2.9' (0.89 m)
55" 7' (2.14 m) 3.2' (0.98 m)
60" 7.6' (2.32 m) 3.8' (1.16 m)
65" 8.2' (2.5 m) 4.1' (1.25 m)
70" 8.9' (2.72 m) 4.4' (1.35 m)
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According to rtings, for a 65 inch tv, 4.1 ft is the optimum viewing distance for 4k. So at 4-5 ft i'm in the sweat spot for 4k viewing.

"The chart also shows that a 4k upgrade is tnot worth it if you are sitting more than 6' away and have a 50" TV. Your eyes won't be able to tell the difference. Ultra HD only makes sense if you want a really big screen and plan on sitting closer to it. Learn more about 4k UHD."

Screen Size Optimal Distance
(1080p) (4k)
25" 3.2' (0.98 m) 1.5' (0.46 m)
30" 3.8' (1.16 m) 1.7' (0.52 m)
35" 4.4' (1.35 m) 2' (0.61 m)
40" 5.1' (1.56 m) 2.3' (0.71 m)
45" 5.7' (1.74 m) 2.6' (0.8 m)
50" 6.3' (1.93 m) 2.9' (0.89 m)
55" 7' (2.14 m) 3.2' (0.98 m)
60" 7.6' (2.32 m) 3.8' (1.16 m)
65" 8.2' (2.5 m) 4.1' (1.25 m)
70" 8.9' (2.72 m) 4.4' (1.35 m)
Yes, you're in the sweet spot for detail, meaning you'll be able to see a benefit from 4k past 1080p and you won't see pixels, but you are way beyond the recommended field of view. It's all a recommendation, you do you. It just means that your field of view could be seen by some as overly large. Most content is made so you can pay attention to the whole screen at the same time. The larger the field of view, the smaller percentage of the video you can keep in your "sweet spot" of vision. So a lot of that movie or TV show is just going to be periphery for you, and if you play a lower resolution source, it's going to be more apparent. Cable TV on your setup would be pixelated or blurry, regular bluray is going to look a bit bad too.

Screen Size Recommended Mixed Usage Distance(30Ā°) Recommended Cinema Distance(40Ā°)
25" 3.4' (1.04 m) 2.5' (0.77 m)
30" 4.1' (1.24 m) 3' (0.92 m)
35" 4.8' (1.45 m) 3.5' (1.07 m)
40" 5.5' (1.66 m) 4' (1.22 m)
45" 6.1' (1.86 m) 4.5' (1.37 m)
50" 6.8' (2.06 m) 5' (1.53 m)
55" 7.5' (2.28 m) 5.5' (1.68 m)
60" 8.2' (2.48 m) 6' (1.83 m)
65" 8.9' (2.69 m) 6.5' (1.98 m)
70" 9.5' (2.9 m) 7' (2.13 m)
75" 10.2' (3.1 m) 7.5' (2.29 m)
80" 10.9' (3.31 m) 8' (2.44 m)
85" 11.6' (3.52 m) 8.5' (2.59 m)
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OK one more challenge. Is there a way to direct input HDMI 1 without going to the home screen? trying to setup my Harmony remote, want to specify which input is used for what. So far no luck.
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I thought the advanced remote doesn't have a headphone jack anymore?

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can anyone tell me what version the roku tv software is running on the 55r617, 65r617, 55r615, or 65r615? Apparently it can be found at settings > system > about, it should be four digits and a letter (something like 7101x).

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Yes, you're in the sweet spot for detail, meaning you'll be able to see a benefit from 4k past 1080p and you won't see pixels, but you are way beyond the recommended field of view. It's all a recommendation, you do you. It just means that your field of view could be seen by some as overly large. Most content is made so you can pay attention to the whole screen at the same time. The larger the field of view, the smaller percentage of the video you can keep in your "sweet spot" of vision. So a lot of that movie or TV show is just going to be periphery for you, and if you play a lower resolution source, it's going to be more apparent. Cable TV on your setup would be pixelated or blurry, regular bluray is going to look a bit bad too.

Screen Size Recommended Mixed Usage Distance(30Ā°) Recommended Cinema Distance(40Ā°)
25" 3.4' (1.04 m) 2.5' (0.77 m)
30" 4.1' (1.24 m) 3' (0.92 m)
35" 4.8' (1.45 m) 3.5' (1.07 m)
40" 5.5' (1.66 m) 4' (1.22 m)
45" 6.1' (1.86 m) 4.5' (1.37 m)
50" 6.8' (2.06 m) 5' (1.53 m)
55" 7.5' (2.28 m) 5.5' (1.68 m)
60" 8.2' (2.48 m) 6' (1.83 m)
65" 8.9' (2.69 m) 6.5' (1.98 m)
70" 9.5' (2.9 m) 7' (2.13 m)
75" 10.2' (3.1 m) 7.5' (2.29 m)
80" 10.9' (3.31 m) 8' (2.44 m)
85" 11.6' (3.52 m) 8.5' (2.59 m)
Some like to sit in the back, middle, or front of the theater. I prefer middle to front. I prefer the more immersive experience.

Some like to sit court-side at a sporting event. Others prefer the rafters. To each his own.
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Im curious how far you folks are sitting from the TV?

For me, the 55" was a holy cow batman moment! it simply looked stunning. In the bedroom I am about 11.5 feet back from the screen. Everything looks better. On 4K material especially..I did not think I would see a difference from 1080p, but I really do..much sharper, more resolution, better colors..almost a 3D type affect not projecting our from the screen but inside the screen..much more depth.

I have read forever the charts that say "if you are X feet from the screen, you will need a TV at 100" to see a difference." I'm 50 years old.. my vision is 20/20 (just had my vision checked) still but I do use reading glasses from time to time. And I can to throw the charts away.

Now comes the fun part.... In the living room I have a 2013 Panasonic P65VT60 65" plasma (last year they made plasmas I think). Im wondering should I replace with a TCL 65 or wait til a TCL 75" comes out later this year or next year? I'm 13.5 feet back from that TV
I just bought the TCL 55p615 from Best Buy for 100% gaming. I have a steering wheel racing and seat setup and am about 6ft from the TV. I also ordered the 65 inch version as I may want the bigger screen but will still sit the same distance away. I havenā€™t used it yet, planning on heading down to my gameroom right now to try it out. I have it setup as a 5.2 system right now. Would love to get the 65 but so far I havenā€™t noticed and DSE or banding.
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