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Oh wow, mine wasn’t nearly that bad. I’m surprised yours even got past quality to be shipped!
unless something happened during shipping. mine has no dead pixels and i'm not seeing any banding while watching TV.
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Best Buy has the 55 inch 6 series from 2017 on sale today for 499. I am interested in 65 inch only
we sure gotta look carefully and read the entire post, it's the 55P605, which was the P series from 2017, the 6 series is 2018. i know you do mention the year as 2017, but, people may react to the "6 series" you mention before that might fool people into thinking they are getting a "6" series 2018 model tv.

i say that, because i only read the first part of your post and went to BB to see if it was the case thinking that's an incredible one day deal, but, your entire post spells out the real story.

not blaming you for anything, just don't want people to go in a hugh to buy it and realize say after the fact that they got last years tv.

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Just wanted to send some positivity. I just picked up my 65R615 from Best Buy and got it set up and I am BLOWN AWAY by how good it looks. No noticable issues during regular viewing (I haven't gone looking for them and I don't plan on it).

Also I bought a Roku streaming stick and used the RF remote with this TV and it pairs without issue.

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Just wanted to send some positivity. I just picked up my 65R615 from Best Buy and got it set up and I am BLOWN AWAY by how good it looks. No noticable issues during regular viewing (I haven't gone looking for them and I don't plan on it).

Also I bought a Roku streaming stick and used the RF remote with this TV and it pairs without issue.

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congratulations i to have stopped trying to find problems because is see no issues while watching TV i did have some audio drops which at first i blamed on the TV but all it was was my HDMI cable going to my receiver i bought a Monoprice genuine 18 Gbps now day three without a single audio drop.
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Hi guys, I'm trying to understand the variability in the picture adjustment options. For example, I've noticed that the movie picture mode is not available sometimes. I'm streaming Dolby Vision content on Netflix, and it's not available. Do I have to be watching an actual movie for it to open up?
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Just received my 55R615. Will be writing a detailed review shortly, but I've run into an issue.

My HTPC & Xbox One X is connected to a Denon X6300H receiver via HDMI.
The receiver connects to TV via HDMI.

I get sound from the receiver but not from the TV. Either of the two devices.

No setting was changed. The old TV was simply swapped with TCL. Everything else untouched and same. Didn't have this issue with the previous set.

I do get sound from TCL if I play anything on the Roku platform, apps etc
Even menu buttons.

Only no sound when coming from receiver.

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Just received my 55R615. Will be writing a detailed review shortly, but I've run into an issue.

My HTPC & Xbox One X is connected to a Denon X6300H receiver via HDMI.
The receiver connects to TV via HDMI.

I get sound from the receiver but not from the TV. Either of the two devices.

No setting was changed. The old TV was simply swapped with TCL. Everything else untouched and same. Didn't have this issue with the previous set.

I do get sound from TCL if I play anything on the Roku platform, apps etc
Even menu buttons.

Only no sound when coming from receiver.

Any ideas?

Try Settings/system/ Control other devices CEC and turn all on... That might do the trick
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Try Settings/system/ Control other devices CEC and turn all on... That might do the trick
Just tried. Still nothing.

Audio from receiver. No audio from TV.

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Just tried. Still nothing.

Audio from receiver. No audio from TV.
Do you have your Denon receiver set for 4K video pass through?




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Do you have your Denon receiver set for 4K video pass through?



Absolutely. Video is not the issue.
More importantly, i literally unplugged a 4k TV and plugged in TCL in its place. Nothing else was touched.

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Absolutely. Video is not the issue.
More importantly, i literally unplugged a 4k TV and plugged in TCL in its place. Nothing else was touched.
do you have the ARC enabled in the TV's audio settings

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do you have the ARC enabled in the TV's audio settings
Tried both ways. Was disabled. Tried enabled. No difference.
But either way, I'm not using the ARC Input. I never had to, not to get device audio output -> Receiver -> TV Speakers.

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Hi guys, I'm trying to understand the variability in the picture adjustment options. For example, I've noticed that the movie picture mode is not available sometimes. I'm streaming Dolby Vision content on Netflix, and it's not available. Do I have to be watching an actual movie for it to open up?
There are separate Picture Mode selections depending on the source of the content.

SDR and 4K content will give you the Picture Mode options: NORMAL, MOVIE, SPORTS, VIVID and LOW POWER

HDR content will give you the Picture Mode options: DARK HDR, NORMAL HDR and BRIGHT HDR

Dolby Vision content will give you the Picture Mode options: DARK DV, NORMAL DV and BRIGHT DV
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Tried both ways. Was disabled. Tried enabled. No difference.
But either way, I'm not using the ARC Input. I never had to, not to get device audio output -> Receiver -> TV Speakers.
on mine i use HDMI 3 ARC >>> Receiver I made sure CEC is enabled on the TV In the audio settings i have S/PDIF and ARC (Auto detect)
Mine works fine i also have the TV speakers off

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on mine i use HDMI 3 ARC >>> Receiver I made sure CEC is enabled on the TV In the audio settings i have S/PDIF and ARC (Auto detect)
Mine works fine i also have the TV speakers off
I'm not sure if you understood my issue.

My HTPC & Xbox are connected to the Receiver.
The receiver outputs to the TV.
I do get sound from the receiver, but no sound from the TV. The receiver is set to to HDMI passthrough. I should be able to get audio from the TV Speakers.

You say your TV Speakers are off. So you can't possibly be getting audio from TV Speakers. ARC is supposed to be other way around - Sending TV Audio to Receiver. I'm just trying to get audio from TV Speakers. I never had to do anything for this before.

Pardon me if I understood something incorrectly.

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I'm not sure if you understood my issue.

My HTPC & Xbox are connected to the Receiver.
The receiver outputs to the TV.
I do get sound from the receiver, but no sound from the TV. The receiver is set to to HDMI passthrough. I should be able to get audio from the TV Speakers.

You say your TV Speakers are off. So you can't possibly be getting audio from TV Speakers. ARC is supposed to be other way around - Sending TV Audio to Receiver. I'm just trying to get audio from TV Speakers. I never had to do anything for this before.

Pardon me if I understood something incorrectly.
then i would assume you will need to enable or set up whatever HDMI your using on the TV as an input I SEE YOU USING YOUR RECEIVER as a source. Question... so your Denon receiver doesn't have ARC i take it and that why your using it this way.

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There are separate Picture Mode selections depending on the source of the content.

SDR and 4K content will give you the Picture Mode options: NORMAL, MOVIE, SPORTS, VIVID and LOW POWER

HDR content will give you the Picture Mode options: DARK HDR, NORMAL HDR and BRIGHT HDR

Dolby Vision content will give you the Picture Mode options: DARK DV, NORMAL DV and BRIGHT DV
Cool, thanks for the explanation!
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then i would assume you will need to enable or set up whatever HDMI your using on the TV as an input I SEE YOU USING YOUR RECEIVER as a source. Question... so your Denon receiver doesn't have ARC i take it and that why your using it this way.
The receiver does have ARC.

The question is why is the TV not receiving or playing sound from it's speakers when any of the inputs connected to the receiver are played. This should not be the case. I've never experienced this issue with any other TV.

Any device connected to the receiver, and the receiver connected to the TV, will play from the TV Speakers. The receiver simply passes through the audio to TV.

I don't understand why TCL is not playing audio from it's TV Speakers when receiver is the input source.

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The receiver does have ARC.

The question is why is the TV not receiving or playing sound from it's speakers when any of the inputs connected to the receiver are played. This should not be the case. I've never experienced this issue with any other TV.

Any device connected to the receiver, and the receiver connected to the TV, will play from the TV Speakers. The receiver simply passes through the audio to TV.

I don't understand why TCL is not playing audio from it's TV Speakers when receiver is the input source.
i have never done it that way sorry i'm not going to unplug just to test it sorry maybe someone else has theirs hooked up like yours

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I'm not sure if you understood my issue.

My HTPC & Xbox are connected to the Receiver.
The receiver outputs to the TV.
I do get sound from the receiver, but no sound from the TV. The receiver is set to to HDMI passthrough. I should be able to get audio from the TV Speakers.
Hi mickey79, HDMI Pass Through setting when set to on will pass the selected HDMI input through the receiver's HDMI output when the receiver is in standby power mode.

Are you trying to pass HDMI source with receiver power off?

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The question is why is the TV not receiving or playing sound from it's speakers when any of the inputs connected to the receiver are played.

Any device connected to the receiver, and the receiver connected to the TV, will play from the TV Speakers. The receiver simply passes through the audio to TV.

I don't understand why TCL is not playing audio from it's TV Speakers when receiver is the input source.
Go into receiver HDMI Setup menu and set HDMI Audio Out to "TV".

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Have you done a hard reboot on the Denon after putting the settings back to where you started? Turn off and pull the plug.
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Hi mickey79, HDMI Pass Through setting when set to on will pass the selected HDMI input through the receiver's HDMI output when the receiver is in standby power mode.

Are you trying to pass HDMI source with receiver power off?

Go into receiver HDMI Setup menu and set HDMI Audio Out to "TV".
JChin,

So you did resolve my issue. The moment I switched HDMI Audio Out to "TV" in my Denon X6300H, I started getting audio from TV.

Now, I have to ask. Clearly you are more knowledgeable about this then I am.

Here's my problem now:

My Denon X4300H has 2 HDMI outputs.
One goes to a 150" Projector. The other used to go to a Toshiba 4K TV.
An HTPC/Gaming rig & Xbox One X is connected as input sources to the receiver.
I have a Gaming Chair to which i send Audio to using the "headphones" output on the TV.

Ok, the way all of this is used is:

When we watch movies or TV shows or any type of media on HTPC or Xbox, we watch it on the big projector screen. Audio is always played on the 11.2 Dolby Atmos/DTS:X speaker system, i.e., the receiver.

When I Game, whether HTPC or Xbox, I do it on the 55" 4K TV. At this time the receiver would always stay Off/Standby Mode. The audio would go from TVs headphone jack to my Gaming Chair and played through the speakers on the gaming chair.

All of this worked without a Hitch on the Toshiba TV. I never used any ARC, any CEC settings. And my HDMI Audio Out was set to "AVR" from day one. Never touched it. Never touched any setting to make the above scenario work. It was out of the box, so to speak.

Enter, TCL 55R615 this morning, and the whole system breaks down.

Yes, after your suggestion, I can get audio to my Gaming Chair through TCLs headphone jack IF and only IF HDMI Audio Out is set to "TV" AND the receiver is on. It didn't work in Standby Mode.

This would be fine - Only - now when go to watch media on the Projector, I'll need to change it to AVR again to get audio from Receiver/Speakers. Then I go to play game, again, change to TV. I'll have to change this setting every time.

Furthermore, Receiver will need to be on for the TV sound to work.

So three million dollar question? Why was this not the case with Toshiba and all preceding sets I had? Why do I need to do this with TCL? What changed?

Thanks. I appreciate your support.
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Have you done a hard reboot on the Denon after putting the settings back to where you started? Turn off and pull the plug.
I have not. Definitely worth a shot. It's good advice.

Thanks.

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I'm not sure if you understood my issue.

My HTPC & Xbox are connected to the Receiver.
The receiver outputs to the TV.
I do get sound from the receiver, but no sound from the TV. The receiver is set to to HDMI passthrough. I should be able to get audio from the TV Speakers.

You say your TV Speakers are off. So you can't possibly be getting audio from TV Speakers. ARC is supposed to be other way around - Sending TV Audio to Receiver. I'm just trying to get audio from TV Speakers. I never had to do anything for this before.

Pardon me if I understood something incorrectly.
sorry man i completely miss understood what you were asking glad some in here was paying closer attention.

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sorry man i completely miss understood what you were asking glad some in here was paying closer attention.
That's perfectly alright. Thanks for trying to help I appreciate it. I believe yours is the reverse situation of what I was trying to do. Quite honestly confused myself. Lol!!

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Took a video today to capture my banding issues if anyone wants to check it out. Is this what I should expect from a $650 TV?

https://youtu.be/SFUrZ2vnEH4
That's exactly what my TV looks like on that test video. I notice it a lot in everyday content too and it's very distracting, but TCL support told me that my set is not defective based on the video I showed them:


I should have shot another video because there's a lot of other content that shows it even more clearly. I'm guessing that wouldn't have mattered to TCL, though.

Another problem I've encountered is that sometimes the set randomly does this weird color glitch thing where it seems to completely invert the colors on the screen. Take a photograph and invert the colors in Photoshop to get an idea of the effect I'm seeing. It's done this three times since I got my set -- I'll try to take a picture or video next time it happens. Turning the TV off and back on solves this problem, but I worry that it's indicative of a bigger problem looming ahead. I didn't mention this problem to TCL support because I hadn't encountered this issue since it happened a couple of times on my first day with the set -- until it finally happened again this weekend.

Aside from the uniformity/DSE issues and this weird, random problem, it's a beautiful TV. I'd love to exchange it at Best Buy, but I have no means of transportation during the 15-day return period, so I'm probably out of luck. Needless to say, I'm pretty upset if I'm going to be stuck with a defective panel that TCL won't even acknowledge as defective.
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Thought I'd take another video of "real world" content. Mario Odyssey, Mushroom Kingdom. Thoughts?

https://youtu.be/hu3XhH9bFyU
Those LED bands would drive me crazy. I'd wait and see what the new Vizio Ps looked like or just pay a few more $$ and get a TV with a better display. You can always buy a Roku stick.
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Really loving this TV. I'm finding myself rocking the normal color temperature on this tv more than others. Just really liking the pop. Watched two episodes of planet earth 2 on uhd disk and it looks really good. Played some God of war also. Trying to find my sweet spot for settings as I'm just tweaking them here and there.

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Anyone have the factory settings on the Darker mode? I tried the CNET settings and they're way too dark. But for some reason it's not resetting.
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