Originally Posted by malmstump
been lurking in this tcl thread for a while ,so wanting to get that 65 ' but very scared of the banding and dse .had heart set out for the sony x900e or f of black friday .
is the issue fixed yet ? is it just the tv 's from march that are affected ? maybe it is the ones from amazon?
damn very upset as it looks like a phenomenal deal at 999 or 949$
i read that a few members had good sets with no issues but the majority that complain really is detering me from tcl so far and getting me looking at the vizio p or sony f
Anecdotally, it seems that the 65" has better chances of panel lottery. Or maybe more people buy the 55", skewing the results, not sure.
Originally Posted by js950
It's a demo, not the sole basis of their score. Design is always somewhat subjective and while I find the TCL quite acceptable, there really is no question as to which is clearly more attractive and 'looks' to be of higher quality. A Sony 900f has even fewer dimming zones. Doesn't make it a worse TV. The TCL may be too aggressive on local dimming and while it's great for slower moving contrast can get caught out on faster movement. In fact, it's been reported here.
Look, no one said you have to agree with their scoring but to imply some sort of bias is wrong. Trying to convince us won't make a very good TCL any better.
It would be fine if they went more into detail, but their description of it is hey we see more some blooming on the TCL. From their Vizio review: "There is very little clouding as the algorithm is very aggressive." Then their TCL review: "On the other hand, there is some obvious clouding around the moving objects. This is because of the inherent limitations of FALD technology and should not worry most people." No notes on the limitations of FALD on the Vizio review and the side by side is just laughable.
While it's true that more dimming zones doesn't mean better, that's typically what you are getting when you buy a more expensive TV. The new Vizio PQ will have 192 zones, and with the same algorithm more zones will always perform better than less zones.
I'm not saying there is a bias, I'm saying given the information in the reviews the score, mostly the FALD score, doesn't make any sense. Design is whatever. Like I said, my 2016 Samsung KU6300 got an 8.5 and it's all plastic.