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^I turned auto motion plus off, think I'm gonna keep it like that for now.
According to the rtings.com review, I think the poor motion quality is due to the 240Hz backlight flicker. Turning on LED Clear Motion will enable 60HZ BFI and clear up double-motion artifacts, with the downside of added flicker and the need to increase the backlight setting.

You have to turn Auto-Motion Plus to custom and then enable LED Clear Motion in the submenu.

The reason I ask is that I'm waffling between getting a NU7100 or Vizio M65. If the BFI clears up motion enough, I'd prefer the NU7100. Your (or anyone else's) impression would be very helpful.
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Try my settings and see what you think. I am assuming that everyone is turning off the Ambient Light Detection and Power Saving Mode in the General Settings section. In the PICTURE SECTION. Picture Mode - Standard, In the Expert Settings. Backlight - 40, Brightness -2, Contrast -50, Sharpness -15, Color -14, Tint-0, Digital Clean View -Auto, Auto Motion Plus -Auto, Local Dimming -Standard, Contrast Enhancer -High, HDR+Mode -Off, Color Tone - Standard, White Balance and Gamma - leave alone, RGB Only Mode -Off, Color Space Settings -Native. One question I have. It seems to me that the picture is better when I leave HDR MODE is set to Off. I did not expect that but maybe it's just me.
I've been messing with these settings and their a good baseline...colorspace for sure needs to be switched to native...auto looks a bit washed out. I dropped brightness to-1. I did leave it on movie instead of standard. Curious what you mean by hdr mode?
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According to the rtings.com review, I think the poor motion quality is due to the 240Hz backlight flicker. Turning on LED Clear Motion will enable 60HZ BFI and clear up double-motion artifacts, with the downside of added flicker and the need to increase the backlight setting.

You have to turn Auto-Motion Plus to custom and then enable LED Clear Motion in the submenu.

The reason I ask is that I'm waffling between getting a NU7100 or Vizio M65. If the BFI clears up motion enough, I'd prefer the NU7100. Your (or anyone else's) impression would be very helpful.
I messed with led clear motion and the fam did not notice flickering but I did. I just left AMP off and that's what their ok with. Unfortunately motion is pretty subjective so cant provide much help in that department.
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I've been messing with these settings and their a good baseline...colorspace for sure needs to be switched to native...auto looks a bit washed out. I dropped brightness to-1. I did leave it on movie instead of standard. Curious what you mean by hdr mode?
In the Expert Settings they show HDR + MODE. I prefer the picture with this turned off. As far as Standard vs Movie Mode the difference is slight but I prefer the slight move towards the blue provided by Standard but I could easily live with either mode.
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In the Expert Settings they show HDR + MODE. I prefer the picture with this turned off. As far as Standard vs Movie Mode the difference is slight but I prefer the slight move towards the blue provided by Standard but I could easily live with either mode.
HDR plus setting is actually a 5th picture mode setting along with dynamic, standard, natural and movie mode. It should be left off. Movie mode is the most accurate picture setting out of the box.
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How does it look with "LED Clear Motion" enabled and Judder/Blur Reduction disabled?
Have you made anymore adjustments. Has the motion improved?
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HDR plus setting is actually a 5th picture mode setting along with dynamic, standard, natural and movie mode. It should be left off. Movie mode is the most accurate picture setting out of the box.
A little clarification please. You say the HDR+ SHOULD be left off. I understand why ECO mode should be left off but HDR+ is supposed to increase PQ. To me it does not and I prefer the PQ with HDR+ turned off, but is your statement indicating your preference also or is there some other technical reason why it SHOULD be turned off? I realize that HDR+ is a 5th picture mode and it shows up in the Picture Mode area if selected but why is it the only picture mode not located in the Picture Mode area but listed separately with a specific requirement to turn on since it defaults to the off position.
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Ignore the glare but look how dark this is....
I had same experience when we started to watch The Ozarks yesterday. I am watching via an Amazon Fire Stick 4K device and could not get a good picture out of it. I did end up loading the Netflix app on to the TV, I had previously not wanted to do that to steer away from any ads etc and not wanting Samsung listening in from the mix access on remote etc.(yes I have my tin foil hat on) LOL!

But, the picture directly on the TV app was way better than going through the Firestick. Compared the brightness of the picture to a calibrated Panasonic Plasma the NU8000 replaced in our living room and was pretty close to what was showing on that device, albeit not at UHD.

For now, I suppose I am happy with the apps from the TV as I can also check out Youtube 4k videos to sample.
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In the Expert Settings they show HDR + MODE. I prefer the picture with this turned off. As far as Standard vs Movie Mode the difference is slight but I prefer the slight move towards the blue provided by Standard but I could easily live with either mode.
Ok gotcha. On a different note as far as picture options go...for cable I'm using movie with color space to auto...with native it looks a bit cartoonish. For Blu Ray's and 4k Blu Ray's and streaming I'll use movie with color space at native.
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Has the denon/samsung handshake issue been fixed? I'm debating on getting this TV, and this seems the best deal with the Samsung EPP. I sit 9.5 feet away, and 65" seems a tiny bit too small and 75" too big... its a shame they don't do a 70" of this tv!
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Korean Site now has 1149.2 FW up, big number change wonder what was fixed, as always Samsung always keeps us in the dark.

reminds me of Sony with PlayStation updates all they ever say is stability improvements... lol

for anyone who doesn't know Korean FW is same as US FW.

Samsung QN75Q7FAMFXZA 1230FW / Samsung UN65NU8500FXZA 1149.2 FW / Samsung UN65HU7250-SEK3500 combo / Samsung LN52B750 (the OG) / LG 47LM6700
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Does anyone have this paired with the HW-K850? I ask because I cannot get these two to sync. Everytime I turn the set on it defaults to internal speakers and does not power on sound bar. I have arc enabled and run soundbar to hdmi 4.
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Has the denon/samsung handshake issue been fixed? I'm debating on getting this TV, and this seems the best deal with the Samsung EPP. I sit 9.5 feet away, and 65" seems a tiny bit too small and 75" too big... its a shame they don't do a 70" of this tv!
Go with the 75". Nobody ever complains their TV is too big.
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I wall mounted the 75 yesterday with a Sanus tilt mount and now notice clouding on all corners...I thought I got lucky in that department, guess not...is clouding more visible because its titled or is this the norm?
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I wall mounted the 75 yesterday with a Sanus tilt mount and now notice clouding on all corners...I thought I got lucky in that department, guess not...is clouding more visible because its titled or is this the norm?


Classic edge lit issues. U can try turning down the backlight to hide it but you also lower the screen brightness. This will vary from set to set so someone else may not see it exactly as you do on their own set.
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^yeah I was a bit bummed about it...we had to take it off the wall, when it was on the regular TV stand we didnt see it, with it wallmounted it showed the clouding.
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Would this be a huge upgrade from a Samsung JU7100 tv (using calibrated settings from someone here)? The only things I'm worried about is the edge lit vs direct lit and the contrast ratio/black levels.
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This TV is so dark at times..... Why can't I turn off local dimming? I have contrast at 50 and 50 backlight. Gamma at 2. And it's still dark watching Ozark on Netflix.....
I am having the same exact issue with anything HDR on Netflix through the app on the TV. It is SO dark you can barely even see the screen. I have my backlight turned all the way up as well. The normal 4K programs on Netflix are nice and bright, not sure why the HDR is so dark.
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I was originally planning on getting a 49" X900F as a PC monitor, but I'm leaning toward this now. I never liked Sony being overpriced and having excess input lag on [email protected] Samsung's offering swere weak last year, but this looks like a solid screen. Pisses me off nobody makes anything really good at 40-43 inch, but whatever. I had a UN40MU6300 that ended up with burn-in, so I'm looking to replace that.

Edit: WTF? On closer inspection, it says the 49" is only a 60hz panel. Why is it impossible to get a goddamn good panel under 50 inch!?!?!?!?

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I was originally planning on getting a 49" X900F as a PC monitor, but I'm leaning toward this now. I never liked Sony being overpriced and having excess input lag on [email protected] Samsung's offering swere weak last year, but this looks like a solid screen. Pisses me off nobody makes anything really good at 40-43 inch, but whatever. I had a UN40MU6300 that ended up with burn-in, so I'm looking to replace that.

Edit: WTF? On closer inspection, it says the 49" is only a 60hz panel. Why is it impossible to get a goddamn good panel under 50 inch!?!?!?!?
Unfortunately the answer is supply and demand. Many of these panels are purchased from Chinese manufactures, especially the smaller panels.
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I am having the same exact issue with anything HDR on Netflix through the app on the TV. It is SO dark you can barely even see the screen. I have my backlight turned all the way up as well. The normal 4K programs on Netflix are nice and bright, not sure why the HDR is so dark.
Turn off HDR-plus setting and switch picture mode to movie.
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So would this be considered a good replacement for last year's TCL P607? I might get a 55" and have 2 55" screens in here since I can't find anything in the 40ish range I like for a 2nd screen, I'll just move the TCL over to use as secondary. Samsung's offerings seemed weak last year. I mainly game and watch BD/UHD. No streaming. Trying to figure out how this compares to other 55" models this year. It looks to have about the best input lag. What about brightness/PQ?

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I need help calibrating the TV from factory settings. What is the best options. I looked at ratings sites but it says general settings and for HDR and gaming they both don't have much to say. So I'm wondering does the general settings need to be put back in for HDR and for gaming
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I need help calibrating the TV from factory settings. What is the best options. I looked at ratings sites but it says general settings and for HDR and gaming they both don't have much to say. So I'm wondering does the general settings need to be put back in for HDR and for gaming
Just make sure you go into the general setting and turn off everything in the ECO section. My settings are in a earlier thread here.
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Just make sure you go into the general setting and turn off everything in the ECO section. My settings are in a earlier thread here.
Would you be able to link your thread you said about as I haveto head to work
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Calibrated my TV last night with Rtings settings and oh boy it made a huge improvement in PQ.
What's pq
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I was originally planning on getting a 49" X900F as a PC monitor, but I'm leaning toward this now. I never liked Sony being overpriced and having excess input lag on [email protected] Samsung's offering swere weak last year, but this looks like a solid screen. Pisses me off nobody makes anything really good at 40-43 inch, but whatever. I had a UN40MU6300 that ended up with burn-in, so I'm looking to replace that.

Edit: WTF? On closer inspection, it says the 49" is only a 60hz panel. Why is it impossible to get a goddamn good panel under 50 inch!?!?!?!?
I returned the NU8000 for the Sony. Since the 49" variant also lacks Variable refresh rate and Freesync support I had little use for it.

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We got our replacement 75 and happy to say, no clouding...hope it stays that way!
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I am having the same exact issue with anything HDR on Netflix through the app on the TV. It is SO dark you can barely even see the screen. I have my backlight turned all the way up as well. The normal 4K programs on Netflix are nice and bright, not sure why the HDR is so dark.

Adjust dynamic contrast and gamma for hdr to make it brighter. Also not sure if Samsung's lower/mid-range models suffer from crush like the upper models do, but putting brightness at +1 is basically a must on those tvs.
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