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Exactly. OP, whether realizing it or not, isn’t looking for help choosing but for validation to justify him getting the Samsung when he knows the 900F is the better set. Most everyone (including yours truly) is unable to afford the “best” set so everyone makes compromises when purchasing a TV. But it has been unanimous as to the better set in OP’s price range and he’s still not satisfied.

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Listen, I'm 36 years old, I know exactly what I'm saying and how I'm saying it.

And I'll repeat so you may have exact clarification.

I"m trying to deciding between 4k uhd set in the 82 to 85inch range
In that range we have
Samsung q6-82
Sony 850f-85
Sony 900f-85

It's okay to debate for or against any choices pro/con is welcome.
I have the money for either sets, however if the difference between sets are small to moderate why pay the extra money which in this case could mean a extra 1500.
So it would be smart, logical to to get as many opinions and find out is that extra 1500 worth.

You took from that, that im trying to justify the q6 when I'm trying to

make sure the extra 1500 for 900f is worth it
So I want as much info and as many opinions as I can get, why is that so bad?
Where talking 5-6k after tax's so due diligence should be expected
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Listen, I'm 36 years old, I know exactly what I'm saying and how I'm saying it.

And I'll repeat so you may have exact clarification.

I"m trying to deciding between 4k uhd set in the 82 to 85inch range
In that range we have
Samsung q6-82
Sony 850f-85
Sony 900f-85

It's okay to debate for or against any choices pro/con is welcome.
I have the money for either sets, however if the difference between sets are small to moderate why pay the extra money which in this case could mean a extra 1500.
So it would be smart, logical to to get as many opinions and find out is that extra 1500 worth.

You took from that, that im trying to justify the q6 when I'm trying to

make sure the extra 1500 for 900f is worth it
So I want as much info and as many opinions as I can get, why is that so bad?
Where talking 5-6k after tax's so due diligence should be expected
Did you read the Q6FN Review over at Rtings?

In addition, here's a Samsung Q6FN vs. Sony 900F Comparison Rtings link.
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Listen, I'm 36 years old, I know exactly what I'm saying and how I'm saying it.



And I'll repeat so you may have exact clarification.



I"m trying to deciding between 4k uhd set in the 82 to 85inch range

In that range we have

Samsung q6-82

Sony 850f-85

Sony 900f-85



It's okay to debate for or against any choices pro/con is welcome.

I have the money for either sets, however if the difference between sets are small to moderate why pay the extra money which in this case could mean a extra 1500.

So it would be smart, logical to to get as many opinions and find out is that extra 1500 worth.



You took from that, that im trying to justify the q6 when I'm trying to



make sure the extra 1500 for 900f is worth it

So I want as much info and as many opinions as I can get, why is that so bad?

Where talking 5-6k after tax's so due diligence should be expected


Nothing wrong with true due diligence. Wasn’t my point and I have no desire to waste further time on the topic.


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I"m trying to deciding between 4k uhd set in the 82 to 85inch range
In that range we have
Samsung q6-82
Sony 850f-85
Sony 900f-85
I've had the 85 inch Sony 900F for 2 months now and am very satisfied with my purchase. I have a ton of 1:1 1080p blu-ray rips and the processing on 1080p content is phenomenal. While I thought HDR performance was very good already, the Dolby Vision update was an eye opener and made me glad I went with the Sony as opposed to the Samsung that does not have DV. Live sports also looks great on this set and really enjoying watching the NBA playoffs on this TV. No regrets so far!
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It's okay to debate for or against any choices pro/con is welcome.
It's not a hard decision, do you prefer a cartoonish , bright , CGI look to all your content or do you prefer all your content to look as close as the director intended it to look. If you don't care than go for the cheaper set.

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It's not a hard decision, do you prefer a cartoonish , bright , CGI look to all your content or do you prefer all your content to look as close as the director intended it to look. If you don't care than go for the cheaper set.
Good post

I want the most bang for my buck.
The tv will be used for movies most of the time marvel, dc ect...

I'm trying decide on the 900f 85inch
It has Dolby vision, 1000nits peak brightness
Full array local dimming

My only question is
Would it be worth to wait for the z9f 75inch before pulling the trigger on the 900f?

The 900f 85inch will cost about 6k when it's all said and done

Z9d 75inch is 6k

So the z9f should be in the same price range
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Sony 85X900F is the only FALD TV listed, FALD has a few drawbacks as every technology has, but it will have a far better picture......Samsung 82Q6FN and Sony 85X850F are great sets and cost less, I guess budget would decide on the three.

In my book:

Sony 85X900F... then
Samsung 82Q6FN... then
Sony 85X850F
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Have you looked at the nu8000? Its only 3500 vs 5k for the sony. And its a decimal point away from the q6 according to rtings and better viewing angles. Sony is better but is it 1500 better?
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Sony is better but is it 1500 better?
Only the buyer can make that decision. When viewing HDR movies, there is quite a delta between an decent FALD TV like the 900F and an edge-lit TVs with poor dimming like those Samsungs. None of the Samsung FALD "QLEDs" come above 75" so they're not a consideration for the OP.
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Only the buyer can make that decision. When viewing HDR movies, there is quite a delta between an decent FALD TV like the 900F and an edge-lit TVs with poor dimming like those Samsungs. None of the Samsung FALD "QLEDs" come above 75" so they're not a consideration for the OP.
The only way I would go 75inch is if it met or exceeded all spec so I'm kinda future proof
Example: the zd9, 1800 nits, 800 zones on a fald set, 3d, that would be worth it to stay at a 75inch uhd range

Which is why I'm thinking maybe I should wait on the z9f to see if it hits 4000 nits, may be can do 8k, 3d, and has all the bells and whistles

Budget wise is 5-6k but the budget raises the more I wait the more I save
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Sony 85X900F is the only FALD TV listed, FALD has a few drawbacks as every technology has, but it will have a far better picture......Samsung 82Q6FN and Sony 85X850F are great sets and cost less, I guess budget would decide on the three.

In my book:

Sony 85X900F... then
Samsung 82Q6FN... then
Sony 85X850F

Well I did read that the contrast numbers for the 82inch q6 is 6000 to 1, where the Sony is 5000 to 1, does that mean the q6 has better blacks besides being contrast is better?
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No. Depends on material. https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/comp...!threshold*0.1 go to the 'Black Uniformity Picture with Local Dimming' collumn and see which looks blacker.
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Well I did read that the contrast numbers for the 82inch q6 is 6000 to 1, where the Sony is 5000 to 1, does that mean the q6 has better blacks besides being contrast is better?
It should have better black color, but the black uniformity will spoil it alot. Also keep in mind that the Q6 is not on the same level as the Q7 and up. It's not as bright and has a smaller color space than the Q7 and up.
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I have a Q6fn 82 inch and do not have this issue at all. No flash lighting, blooming or crushed blacks.
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I hope you decided on what TV you want. I purchased the q6fn 82 and am very happy with it. Sometimes we can so caught up in all the technical BS, we lose site of what our eyes and heart are telling us. If size is what you want, get the Sony, if you are a person that lines messing with the settings a lot, get the Samsung. Personally I did not like the Android interface and also heard and read it turned off a lot of people. You wont go wrong on either one and once you have a few drinks and a can of pringles, they all look the same. Attached is my TV on regular programming and I have Monster 4k HDMI cables and hooked to a Xfinity box and Yamaha receiver. Also invested in a relatively expensive surge protector
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Well I did read that the contrast numbers for the 82inch q6 is 6000 to 1, where the Sony is 5000 to 1, does that mean the q6 has better blacks besides being contrast is better?
No it does not Contrast ratio "usually" means nothing when a manufacturer states it as there are many ways to measure it. You have to know the way they are measuring it, you would also need the exact same environment. If you tested both in your home trust me when I tell you those numbers will be different.
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Ok these are the sets I am also looking at, I was about ready to buy the Sony 85 900F, one of the things which makes it attractive is the upscaling. I sat in a magonia room and watched the 82" NU8000 and 85" 900F play identical 1080P content, I know they can play with it, but the Sony absolutely blew away the Samsung when you put on the 1080 content.

I am going to use ATV, but it looks like it will upscale to 4k, do I have to turn it to output 1080p when I am playing 1080 content, then switch it to 4k when I am watching 4k content so that the TV does the upscaling?
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Ok these are the sets I am also looking at, I was about ready to buy the Sony 85 900F, one of the things which makes it attractive is the upscaling. I sat in a magonia room and watched the 82" NU8000 and 85" 900F play identical 1080P content, I know they can play with it, but the Sony absolutely blew away the Samsung when you put on the 1080 content.
I had the same experience at Magnolia with these sets. The rival was a 77" Oled which was better.

These are just my opinions.
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Well....I'm still on the fence..
Lol

I'm actually considering projectors since I already have a 125inch projector screen.
So right now I'm trying out the 285es Sony
Next month I might get the 85inch 900f to see if I really like it
Remember Samsung has a 8k 85inch tv around the corner..lol

I know at some point I got get my chopped off but I want to make the best choice possible

I also came across z9d 75inch open box I'm tempted to get
.lol...I'm a mess..lol
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Sony 85X900F is the only FALD TV listed, FALD has a few drawbacks as every technology has, but it will have a far better picture......Samsung 82Q6FN and Sony 85X850F are great sets and cost less, I guess budget would decide on the three.

In my book:

Sony 85X900F... then
Samsung 82Q6FN... then
Sony 85X850F
Just curious....What makes the Samsung Q6 better than the Sony 850F ?
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Just curious....What makes the Samsung Q6 better than the Sony 850F ?
The 850f is 3 inches bigger, direct lit, no local dimming

The q6 is 3inches smaller, edge lit, and has local dimming
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The 850f is 3 inches bigger, direct lit, no local dimming

The q6 is 3inches smaller, edge lit, and has local dimming
I've narrowed down my search to the same 3 sets.

I will say I spent some time at BB looking at the 850 vs the 900 and had a hard time seeing a difference. I know the specs say there is, but my eyes didn't. I'm thinking the 850 is the value play, especially if 85 inches is the correct size for my viewing distance, 13ft.

Just waiting for the price to come down just a bit.
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I've narrowed down my search to the same 3 sets.

I will say I spent some time at BB looking at the 850 vs the 900 and had a hard time seeing a difference. I know the specs say there is, but my eyes didn't. I'm thinking the 850 is the value play, especially if 85 inches is the correct size for my viewing distance, 13ft.

Just waiting for the price to come down just a bit.

For normal SDR TV and sports, the 85" 850F will look very similar to the 900F. But for HDR, the FALD 900F is much better. And anyone considering the Q6FN should take a look at the cheaper NU8000 as they look almost identical.
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Hey guys,

Just my 2cents,I would avoid the 82NU8000,I am selling it right now after 3 months as the picture in very dark environment is pretty bad..severe lightbleed on the lower left side and moderate lightbleed on the lower right side,also has a bit of clouding but not much visible.
However colors and blacks were perfect to me.

So my question : better get now the 82Q6FN (or it’s gonna be the same issues as the NU8000) or get a Sony 85x850F (no local dimming worries me about uniformity and black levels)?

I’m living in Europe so no 85x900f avalaible around here.
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The only FALD 85’’ TV we can get in Europe is the Samsung 85Q900R but cost 17K$ 😕
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