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BESLC 06-05-2018 12:09 PM

2018 Samsung Q9FN Settings Thread
 
This thread has been created to post and discuss settings on the 2018 Samsung Q9FN models, for the purpose of optomizing performance.

Whether you are a Videophile,Calibrator,Gamer or End User, your knowledge and experience will be valuable to all.

When posting settings or recommended changes, a brief explanation of net effect in a particular mode or across all settings would be greatly apreciated.

Wjboshart 06-05-2018 12:51 PM

Either tonight or tomorrow I will post pre-cal and post-cal results and settings. I will do it on movie setting so others can copy settings if they wish. Otherwise I have night/day mode because I have it enabled through calman software. Same with hdr, I will be using movie setting. Note the calibrations I am doing and posting would be geared towards “director’s intent” and accuracy. This tv is very capable of color and pop, so many of those settings can be adjusted to personal liking, same with backlight control.


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Keithian 06-05-2018 12:59 PM

Here are specific pages within the main Q9 thread with settings:

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post56048534

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...e-talk-84.html

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...e-talk-94.html

Discussion around Digital Clean View

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...-talk-113.html

Rtings Settings (may be too dim for some):
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/q9fn/settings

Other mentions I recently read:
If you have DirectTV, on the DVR box in settings/picture mode: uncheck everything but 1080i and/or 1080P (test yourself)

Modernwize (Joey's) settings:

BESLC 06-05-2018 01:44 PM

Thank you guys for your early posts and information, we are off to a great start!!!

AnotherDude 06-05-2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BESLC (Post 56296740)
Thank you guys for your early posts and information, we are off to a great start!!!

Dang! I better get working! Although I have the feeling I'm going to be out in left field relative to how I use my display :).

Nice job opening the thread!

BESLC 06-05-2018 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnotherDude (Post 56296768)
Dang! I better get working! Although I have the feeling I'm going to be out in left field relative to how I use my display :).

Nice job opening the thread!

Your feedback and experience will benefit all, whether implemented or not. I for one appreciate hearing and seeing what others have discovered.Bottom line, the Q9FN is good out of the box, with proper settings it it can be great...we all have our particular likes.

Look forward to hearing from you..thank you for joining in!

GregLee 06-05-2018 03:34 PM

I previously posted my settings for SDR DirecTV and for HDR here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post56048534. If this was referred to above, I'm sorry for the redundancy.

BESLC 06-05-2018 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregLee (Post 56297302)
I previously posted my settings for SDR DirecTV and for HDR here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lc...l#post56048534. If this was referred to above, I'm sorry for the redundancy.


I hope it is ok that I am adding your initial post, the information is valuable. Having it in here for reference will save time..thank you!

'm using for DirecTV, 1080i {HDR settings for Amazon/Netflix in braces}:
(Picture Mode: HDR+ greyed out) {movie}
Backlight 41 {50}
Brightness -3 {3}
Contrast 28 {40}
Sharpness 20
Color 28 {30}
Tint 0
(Apply Picture Settings Current Source: greyed out)
Digital Clean View Low{Auto}
Auto Motion + Custom [Judder Reduction 3, LED Clear Motion ON] {default}
Local Dimming High
Contrast Enhancer Off
HDR+ Mode ON {Off}
Film Mode Auto1 {Off}
Color Tone Standard
Gamma BT.1886 {ST2084}
BT.1886 -1 {0}
Color Space Setting Native {Custom: Color Gamut DCI-P3}
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Otto Pylot 06-05-2018 04:14 PM

Do keep in mind that component tolerances can vary between tv's of the same model and build. Correctly adjusting user settings is based on those tolerances so if someone responds that the posted settings don't look good, that's the reason, even if the settings come from a panel that has actually been calibrated to reference standards with a light meter and software.

AnotherDude 06-05-2018 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot (Post 56297550)
Do keep in mind that component tolerances can vary between tv's of the same model and build. Correctly adjusting user settings is based on those tolerances so if someone responds that the posted settings don't look good, that's the reason, even if the settings come from a panel that has actually been calibrated to reference standards with a light meter and software.

Every panel is it's own world :).

Hopefully suggested settings for an environment / use will land you safely then you can tweak for your particular situation.

GregLee 06-05-2018 05:02 PM

There is reason to doubt that anyone else's settings will work for you. If there were such improved settings. Samsung engineers, being competent, would know them, and Samsung would have made these settings the default. So, personally, I never use others' settings.

Keithian 06-05-2018 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregLee (Post 56297870)
There is reason to doubt that anyone else's settings will work for you. If there were such improved settings. Samsung engineers, being competent, would know them, and Samsung would have made these settings the default. So, personally, I never use others' settings.

Sorry, you're going to have to accept the fact that if my TV comes as scheduled this Friday, I'm going to try your settings and I may like them lol

amgme 06-05-2018 05:34 PM

I'd rather have someone else's calibrated settings to "try" just to see if they look better than default. It's a good place to start. Thanks for starting the thread.

Otto Pylot 06-05-2018 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnotherDude (Post 56297674)
Every panel is it's own world :).

Hopefully suggested settings for an environment / use will land you safely then you can tweak for your particular situation.

Agreed. Environment/Use is a HUGE factor in a properly set panel. It all comes down to what the user likes. A lot of folks don't like a properly calibrated panel. The reason being is that it's not what they are used to. So as long as folks who use other settings don't think their panel is calibrated, and there are no issues, no harm no foul.

ShePearl 06-05-2018 06:45 PM

2018 Samsung Q9FN Settings Thread
 
FWIW, here's my current settings. The settings are still in progress but I am loving the picture quality of this set.


It's 65 inch QN65Q9FNAFXKR (2018) Korean domestic model with FA02 Samsung panel. (The US and EU version and models with different panel manufacturer (eg. AUO) may result in different picture.)

Q9FN is installed in my gaming room which is 100% light controlled with Philips Hue lighting system.


https://i.imgur.com/NLIZORQ.jpg

AnotherDude 06-05-2018 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShePearl (Post 56298478)
FWIW, here's my current settings. The settings are still in progress but I am loving the picture quality of this set.


It's 65 inch QN65Q9FNAFXKR (2018) Korean domestic model with FA02 Samsung panel. (The US and EU version and models with different panel manufacturer (eg. AUO) may result in different picture.)

Q9FN is installed in my gaming room which is 100% light controlled with Philips Hue lighting system.



Nice spreadsheet :) - Excel I take it?

You should attach it so others can fill in their values :D

BESLC 06-06-2018 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShePearl (Post 56298478)
FWIW, here's my current settings. The settings are still in progress but I am loving the picture quality of this set.


It's 65 inch QN65Q9FNAFXKR (2018) Korean domestic model with FA02 Samsung panel. (The US and EU version and models with different panel manufacturer (eg. AUO) may result in different picture.)

Q9FN is installed in my gaming room which is 100% light controlled with Philips Hue lighting system.


https://i.imgur.com/NLIZORQ.jpg

Nicely documented..thank you!

BESLC 06-06-2018 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asmakhalid (Post 56300142)
Above documents have almost answers of all questions which anyone has in his mind regarding Settings.

There is some excellent information posted so far, however it is necessary to understand that some setting modifications effect a particular mode or can effect performance across the platform. Given the complexity of setting changes, it is important to understand the net effect those changes make. AS such, discussion on why is every bit as important as the settings.

I hope we can stay engaged on this topic...thank you!

Ehviding 06-06-2018 08:08 AM

Patrik Gårdewall on youtube has some excellent videos and settings posted on his channel :)https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCv4...VrUYIzMTdZNhaw

Wjboshart 06-06-2018 11:58 AM

These are my calibrated settings for “dark room” viewing, peak luminance at 124 nits. Attached are before and after results. Colors can be improved upon once calman updates their setup to include 2018 models.

Backlight 11
Brightness 0
Contrast 38 (for whiter than white content)
Sharpness 0
Color 35 (the luminance readings have a high error, but this is a nominal level to get tracking saturation points
Tint 0
Local dimming standard
Color tone warm 2
Bt 1886 0
Color custom

2pt white balance
0
-2
-9
-1
-1
0

Custom color
Red 0,7,2
Green 38,0,3
Blue 0,0,0
Yellow 4,0,0
Cyan 14,0,19
Magenta 0,9,16

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Ehviding 06-06-2018 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wjboshart (Post 56302344)
These are my calibrated settings for “dark room” viewing, peak luminance at 124 nits. Attached are before and after results. Colors can be improved upon once calman updates their setup to include 2018 models.

Backlight 11
Brightness 0
Contrast 38 (for whiter than white content)
Sharpness 0
Color 35 (the luminance readings have a high error, but this is a nominal level to get tracking saturation points
Tint 0
Local dimming standard
Color tone warm 2
Bt 1886 0
Color custom

2pt white balance
0
-2
-9
-1
-1
0

Custom color
Red 0,7,2
Green 38,0,3
Blue 0,0,0
Yellow 4,0,0
Cyan 14,0,19
Magenta 0,9,16

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...abad9b28a.heichttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7f4a32a05.heichttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2ab2e7c89.heichttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f0ca87104.heichttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9693eb32d.heichttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...216cc5f2d.heic


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Is it possible to enable day/night mode without external software somehow?

Wjboshart 06-06-2018 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ehviding (Post 56302438)
Is it possible to enable day/night mode without external software somehow?



I don’t think so, unless you can access the service. Menu maybe


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AnotherDude 06-06-2018 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ehviding (Post 56302438)
Is it possible to enable day/night mode without external software somehow?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wjboshart (Post 56302460)
I don’t think so, unless you can access the service. Menu maybe


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Not in the service menu that I've been able to discover, which makes sense for its intended purpose.

Ehviding 06-06-2018 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wjboshart (Post 56302460)
I don’t think so, unless you can access the service. Menu maybe


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Will they enable automatically through auto cal?

Wjboshart 06-06-2018 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ehviding (Post 56302510)
Will they enable automatically through auto cal?



When you access the ddc (direct display control) it’s a box you have to select to enable day/night modes


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ShePearl 06-06-2018 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnotherDude (Post 56298842)
Nice spreadsheet :) - Excel I take it?

You should attach it so others can fill in their values :D


Google Spreadsheet. ;)
Here's a link to the spreadsheet. Anyone can copy & paste the template for use.

BESLC 06-06-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShePearl (Post 56303556)
Google Spreadsheet. ;)
Here's a link to the spreadsheet. Anyone can copy & paste the template for use.

Thank you for posting your settings and link to your spread sheet..greatly appreciated.

A question on your settings. With your lighting environment if I read your post correctly, you view in a controlled low light environment? If the environment were typical family room lighting with some daylight window considerations, if possible to answer, would your settings with tweaking give you the results you want? If so where would you adjust?


Forgive me if my question is not appropriate. Thank you again for your time and valuable information.

sd13 06-06-2018 04:10 PM

When I had the 65" q9fn I put movie mode and brightness to -3, contrast 42 and gamma to -1 for sdr. This produced the closest black level and gray scale to my c7 oled without crushing the blacks. For sdr gaming the same as movie mode but with color bumped up to 33 and dynamic contrast I put on low. On HDR I put brightness -1 and contrast 42 and left st.2024 on default 0 . On HDR game mode brightness -3, contrast 42, dynamic contrast on low and st.2024 to +1 for the closest overall saturation and contrast to my oled.

ShePearl 06-06-2018 06:07 PM

2018 Samsung Q9FN Settings Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BESLC (Post 56303818)
Thank you for posting your settings and link to your spread sheet..greatly appreciated.



A question on your settings. With your lighting environment if I read your post correctly, you view in a controlled low light environment? If the environment were typical family room lighting with some daylight window considerations, if possible to answer, would your settings with tweaking give you the results you want? If so where would you adjust?





Forgive me if my question is not appropriate. Thank you again for your time and valuable information.


Hi BESLC,
Indeed. Q9FN is in my room where I usually watch in quite dimmed lighting environment (if not completely dark.)

If lighting environment is changed to your description, I would change 4 settings below:

- Backlight should be fixed at max for HDR regardless of lighting environment. But for SDR, adjust according to your lighting environment.

- Brightness may need to be increased slightly.

- Local Dimming set to Low.

- Contrast Enhancer. I would set it at High (yes, high) with Local Dimming at Low for brighter lighting environment.


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BESLC 06-07-2018 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShePearl (Post 56304338)
Hi BESLC,
Indeed. Q9FN is in my room where I usually watch in quite dimmed lighting environment (if not completely dark.)

If lighting environment is changed to your description, I would change 4 settings below:

- Backlight should be fixed at max for HDR regardless of lighting environment. But for SDR, adjust according to your lighting environment.

- Brightness may need to be increased slightly.

- Local Dimming set to Low.

- Contrast Enhancer. I would set it at High (yes, high) with Local Dimming at Low for brighter lighting environment.


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Thank you, I appreciate your time and suggestions.


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