My two cents... Further to completely agreeing with the folks who have already astutely pointed out the respective image sizes and viewing distances wherein 4K image resolution delineation becomes visible, let alone 8K, I think it's worth noting that according to both the Imaging Science Foundation (ISF) and THX, who drive industry standards and train professional video calibrators worldwide, resolution is not the most important factor influencing video performance and hence good picture quality.
In fact, image resolution is not even within the top three. According to ISF and THX, the fourth and least of the four key parameters is resolution; the single most apparent thing you see is dynamic range; contrast and black level are most important; and resolution is behind all of these as well as (all-importantly) colour saturation, depth, subsampling, and accuracy; and personally I'd also consider all of gamma performance, motion handling, off-axis performance, and uniformity to be of greater importance too.
So, I'm more interested in knowing with respect to these new Samsung 8K TVs what is the performance capability with respect to all these many other aspects of video performance which are significantly more important than image resolution.
Originally Posted by Matsonia
This thread seems to have a lot of negativity in it... Is this from people who are genuinely down on 8K in general or just mad because they have a 4K set and now 8K is being released?
I simply think that some folks (correctly) place the importance of image resolution way down the list of priorities; me included
Originally Posted by Matsonia
For me the most exciting thing about these upcoming Samsung TV's isn't the 8K resolution but the other aspects of it.
If this is the Q9S that was shown off at CES forget the 8K and look at the other benefits.
Firstly if its 8K and 120hz your going to get much more processing power than in the current TV's to be able to run that.
Secondly the Q9S model from CES not only had 4000 nits in brightness but also used a new type of local dimming. Micro dimming which has been reported to be between 10000-20000 zones.
This alone should give this set an outstanding picture and way ahead of any current LCD on the market and up there with OLED for black level response and much much better brightness.
The 8K is just the added bonus of being futureproof, especially if its going to have HDMI 2.1 or be upgradeable to 2.1.
I could not agree more and if these new Samsung TVs do indeed tout all of these amazing features then THAT is the main reason to be excited about them; wherein, as you say, the 8K resolution is a bonus and future-proofing.
I note that these 'next gen' TVs from Samsung reportedly will also deliver "full BT.2020 color range coverage"
as well as "’Next Gen HDR’ (built around 4,000 nits of brightness); and 12-bit color depth support"
; all of which will increase the video image quality substantially more than the 8K image resolution... and hopefully similarly supported will be color accuracy and CMS calibration capability; plus gamma, motion performance, and uniformity
But either way, with these 'next gen' TVs Samsung is clearly throwing down the gauntlet; which is always a good thing, especially given that the other manufacturers are inevitably similarly following suit with their own 'next gen' TV offerings... where for example we can soon expect to be seeing from LG larger OLED TVs sizes of 98" + (where LG recently invested billions into creating the respective manufacturing capability) and possibly / hopefully top emission OLED panels (finally); as well as SONY who demoed at the last CES their own 8K TV prototype, being 85" and sporting 10,000 nits peak luminance and SONY's new flagship 'next gen' X1 Ultimate video processing chipset.
The best thing about this kind of TV technology contest and competition between the respective manufacturers such as Samsung, Sony and LG etc. is that it drives the technology forwards and the prices downwards.
So the next 12 months should be seeing some very exciting advancements in consumer TVs, so I'm very much looking forward to personally eyeballing all of these at IFA, CEDIA and CES!