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I am currently using a Sony KDL65W850A. It is a great 1080p TV with great PQ.

I am thinking to upgrade to a 4K TV and maybe a bigger set. I went to Best Buy site and noticed that while the price has dropped for TV below 65-inch, the larger TV are quite expensive. It seems to me that the demarcation is 65-inch. There is a big jump in price for 65-inch to 75-inch.

Coming from a KDL65W850A, which TVs should I consider?

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I am currently using a Sony KDL65W850A. It is a great 1080p TV with great PQ.

I am thinking to upgrade to a 4K TV and maybe a bigger set. I went to Best Buy site and noticed that while the price has dropped for TV below 65-inch, the larger TV are quite expensive. It seems to me that the demarcation is 65-inch. There is a big jump in price for 65-inch to 75-inch.

Coming from a KDL65W850A, which TVs should I consider?
Without knowing your budget I'd get the the 65X900F or if you can find last year's 65X900E you could save a boatload.

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I just start shopping and I like to pay $2-3K CAN but limit is $4K.

I can see that I can get a good 65-inch for $2K. For a good 75-85 inch, the price is $5-10K.

Since I have been using this KDL65W850A (excellent PQ) for 4 years, I like a bigger TV but the price is too high.

Forgot to mention: I do not game so the TV is strictly for TV/movies.
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I just start shopping and I like to pay $2-3K CAN but limit is $4K.

I can see that I can get a good 65-inch for $2K. For a good 75-85 inch, the price is $5-10K.

Since I have been using this KDL65W850A (excellent PQ) for 4 years, I like a bigger TV but the price is too high.

Forgot to mention: I do not game so the TV is strictly for TV/movies.
Ok, well you might want to see if you can get a 75X900F in your price range. The other one I'd look at is the Vizio P75-F1 new for this year. Supposed to be very good.

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The 82" Samsung Q6 is generally around $3500 on sale these days which is a really good price considering it's size and brightness but it is still pretty flawed. However, I must ask what you plan on viewing, how bright is your room generally, how far from your TV do you sit, and do you have multiple people viewing from various angles generally or even ever? All that factors into a decision. My advise for now is wait until next year when TVs have native HDMI 2.1 and off air 4K native built in while companies like Vizio and TCL should be releasing cheaper multi-zone 75" and 82" quantum dot TVs. You are not missing out on much with that 850A unless you are specifically watching a lot of HDR content now. I'd personally wait until a TV comes out that is at least 2000 nits in max brightness and is in your price range at the size you want which may well be as soon as 2019.
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The 82" Samsung Q6 is generally around $3500 on sale these days which is a really good price considering it's size and brightness but it is still pretty flawed. However, I must ask what you plan on viewing, how bright is your room generally, how far from your TV do you sit, and do you have multiple people viewing from various angles generally or even ever? All that factors into a decision. My advise for now is wait until next year when TVs have native HDMI 2.1 and off air 4K native built in while companies like Vizio and TCL should be releasing cheaper multi-zone 75" and 82" quantum dot TVs. You are not missing out on much with that 850A unless you are specifically watching a lot of HDR content now. I'd personally wait until a TV comes out that is at least 2000 nits in max brightness and is in your price range at the size you want which may well be as soon as 2019.
My viewing distance is 12-13 feet and the TV room is never bright. At night, I actually watch TV at complete darkness. My TV room is long and narrow so viewing angle is not important.

I use the TV to watch TV and video streaming, no gaming. My local TV broadcast is 1080 and it is rare to get online video streams higher than 1080. So, I will need a set with good upscale capability.

-hetfieldjames: just checked 75X900F, brand new is $4600CAN (already with $600 discount) and open box is $3600.

On the other hand, my Sony KDL65W850A performs well and PQ is excellent. Maybe I should wait for Boxing Day. LOL.

** update ** Damned. I did some rersesrch, since my viewing distance is 12-13 feet, I would need at least a 95-inch TV. This is discouraging because I cannot afford it.

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...it is rare to get online video streams higher than 1080...

I'd say sit closer to your current TV and wait at least 1 more solid year. Prices at 82" will really continue to free fall each year now as spec increase. Competition is heavy in the television market. Right now there is no reason for you to upgrade if you can sit closer to the TV for now. You may not be needing to access HDR material until 2020 if you don't stream much. Eventually, off air with the new tuners will be incredible and many will be gearing up for it when it hits and people see off air HDR broadcasts with no fudging of signal.
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...it is rare to get online video streams higher than 1080...

I'd say sit closer to your current TV and wait at least 1 more solid year. Prices at 82" will really continue to free fall each year now as spec increase. Competition is heavy in the television market. Right now there is no reason for you to upgrade if you can sit closer to the TV for now. You may not be needing to access HDR material until 2020 if you don't stream much. Eventually, off air with the new tuners will be incredible and many will be gearing up for it when it hits and people see off air HDR broadcasts with no fudging of signal.
Sit closer? With 12-ft of viewing distance, my 65-inch 1080p TV is almost perfect. According to my research, the viewing distance of 4K TVs are shorter.
For 4K and my viewing distance, I would need at least 85-inch.

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Sit closer? With 12-ft of viewing distance, my 65-inch 1080p TV is almost perfect. According to my research, the viewing distance of 4K TVs are shorter.

For 4K and my viewing distance, I would need at least 85-inch.



I will see any deals in Black Friday.


12ft from a 65”? I sit 8-9 from a 75”. I have a good friend that always puts his set regardless of size at the furthest wall IMO you lose all details from that distance.

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12ft from a 65”? I sit 8-9 from a 75”. I have a good friend that always puts his set regardless of size at the furthest wall IMO you lose all details from that distance.
My current TV is 1080p. The optimal viewing distances of 1080 and 4K are not the same.

http://i.rtings.com/images/optimal-v...graph-size.png

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My current TV is 1080p. The optimal viewing distances of 1080 and 4K are not the same.



http://i.rtings.com/images/optimal-v...graph-size.png



https://www.crutchfield.ca/S-qib0WoK...placement.html


I know they aren’t the same thus why I said 12 ft from a 65” is to far. I sat closer than 12 ft when I had 1080p.

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With the KDL65W850a, I am OK with this distance. BTW. PQ of this TV is excellent even though it is only 1080.

I read about upscaling. With 1080 video source, will the PQ of a 4K TV with upscaling be better than a a regular 1080 TV ? How about 720 source?
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