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post #1 of 22 Old 07-16-2018, 05:14 PM - Thread Starter
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82” Samsung Q6FN versus 75” Sony 900F?

I’m considering a larger tv for a media room. I’ve considered but don’t think I can do a projector because of a few issues with the room, so that is out.

So these two TVs are in the running. I’m a fan of the Sony tvs as I have two other 4K TVs in the house already.

I’m bias to the Sony but I’d like a larger tv but the 85” 900F is $5299, and I don’t like that at all. The Samsung is close to that size but almost equal in price by a couple hundred more bucks.

I’ve never owned a Samsung, so I don’t know much about their quality.

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82 inch is 7 more then the 75inch

Sony=fald screen/Dolby vision
Samsung=7inch bigger/edge lit/

Both are the same brightness pretty much
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The 900F is a much better TV, so it's the usual size vs. quality. Pick one!

Regarding brightness, the meaningful measurement is the HDR Real Scene Peak Brightness where the 900F is considerably brighter - 524 cd/m2 for the Q6FN compared to 894 cd/m2 for the 900F.
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If you're going to compare a 82 to the 75, why not go to the 85 Sony instead?

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I remember reading on these forums, someone bought a 85 inch LG passive 3D TV for 16,000.00 and that was edgelit. I just seen a 85 inch Sony 900F for a little over 5,000.00,what a bargain.
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I remember reading on these forums, someone bought a 85 inch LG passive 3D TV for 16,000.00 and that was edgelit. I just seen a 85 inch Sony 900F for a little over 5,000.00,what a bargain.
Must have been back in 2013-14, when 85" was a ridiculously huge screen and when 4K was brand new...
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Must have been back in 2013-14, when 85" was a ridiculously huge screen and when 4K was brand new...
I think you are right with that! I remember the lust for 3D that big, after reading the comment on the TV.
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I’m considering a larger tv for a media room. I’ve considered but don’t think I can do a projector because of a few issues with the room, so that is out.

So these two TVs are in the running. I’m a fan of the Sony tvs as I have two other 4K TVs in the house already.

I’m bias to the Sony but I’d like a larger tv but the 85” 900F is $5299, and I don’t like that at all.

I would check out the LCD Flat Panel Great Found Deals! page and you might be shocked on the Sony 85"
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What if you are a gamer? I thought I saw the latency for 4K gaming on the Sony was great but not so good for 1080? Makes me think the Samsung may be a better gaming TV?
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What if you are a gamer? I thought I saw the latency for 4K gaming on the Sony was great but not so good for 1080? Makes me think the Samsung may be a better gaming TV?
Generally speaking, doubling the frame rate will halve the input lag, even with these two TVs. Input lag between the 900F and Q6FN is ~1 frame (16ms at 60Hz, 8ms at 120Hz). Overall, both are still slower than a dedicated computer monitor. However, the Q6FN line supports FreeSync which means that when connected to a compatible PC (AMD GPU) or Xbone S/X, the refresh rate will dynamically adjust to match the framerate, eliminating stutter and tearing. That alone places it miles ahead of the 900F.
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There are a couple of items that seem to not get all that much air time in TV comparisons.

Upscaling. This is perhaps more important than it might seem. While it's currently possible to stream 4K or watch it on 4K UHD disks, there's an ocean of content that will be less than 4K for a long time… perhaps until ATSC 3.0 rolls out and broadcast and streaming of 4k content become the norm. The timeline on that is pretty soft and it could take a decade or more since there's no mandate driving it. At the very least, the TV selected should have upscaling that you believe will be good enough for the period of time you own it.

HDR. Format wars make this is such a roll of the dice right now. Will Dolby Vision achieve sufficient market penetration to justify it being a high priority choice? That's not clear. Amazon and NetFlix made announcements getting behind HDR10+ but how much content will that mean? That's not clear, either. It would be great to be able to buy a TV with HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision and HLG support but that's not an option between these two sets. So, you're betting on a winner and hoping you don't get the next Betamax.

Obsolescence. Neither set has HDMI 2.1 or ATSC 3.0 support. Also, MicroLED is coming (maybe). These technologies hold a great deal of promise but it also means neither TV is "future proof". OTOH, what TV is these days?

Just one more upgrade and things will be perfect.
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I am an owner of the 75" 900F and have been for about 2 months. I really like the PQ, styling, connectivity and the sound is ok. The Android OS can be a little trying at time, because it is pretty slow. I tried using the built in apps but have since went back to nvidia shield for my streams. Therefor I am not really in the menu very often at all. I disabled wifi and the set perform very well. Brightness, sharpness, motion are all very good. Dolby Vision seems to be broke or at least most sources I have tried are all too dark no matter how you tweak the settings. The HDR is solid, I have tried ATV, nvidia as well as on-board apps and all give basically same result as far as DolbyVision and HDR. I would definitely recommend the TV, but it is not a flagship like was first advertised. I watch in a brightly lit room a lot and there is no issue with glare or brightness. I watch plenty of sports and motion is handled very well. You would probably would have to step up to a Q8FN to match it with Sammy.

I would have rather had a 75" Z9F but not at near twice the price.
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^It's disappointing that menu speed in the 900F series is bad, and it doesn't have to be that way. The NVidia Shield is very zippy and it's Android based. Sony messed this up.

May or may not be a deal breaker for potential buyers.

Just one more upgrade and things will be perfect.
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^It's disappointing that menu speed in the 900F series is bad, and it doesn't have to be that way. The NVidia Shield is very zippy and it's Android based. Sony messed this up.

May or may not be a deal breaker for potential buyers.

I picked up a 65 inch 900F on Saturday and I've already become extremely annoyed with the slowness of the interface. Makes no sense why this TV is so slow just trying to maneuver around to different apps/menus. It's a major shortcoming on an otherwise great TV.
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I picked up a 65 inch 900F on Saturday and I've already become extremely annoyed with the slowness of the interface. Makes no sense why this TV is so slow just trying to maneuver around to different apps/menus. It's a major shortcoming on an otherwise great TV.
I bought a 55x900E last Black Friday and I love it after a LOT of research since I had no access to a Sony or TCLP605. The only thing that I didn't like with the Sony was how slow it was on the menu etc. I found a youtube site about that issue, followed the instructions to get rid of some stuff and it was much better to where I don't think about it. I am assuming the same could be done with the F but I really like my Sony, ok, I love it.
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[QUOTE=kauaidoug;56642004]I bought a 55x900E last Black Friday and I love it after a LOT of research since I had no access to a Sony or TCLP605. The only thing that I didn't like with the Sony was how slow it was on the menu etc. I found a youtube site about that issue, followed the instructions to get rid of some stuff and it was much better to where I don't think about it. I am assuming the same could be done with the F but I really like my Sony, ok, I love it.[/QUOTE


This is the website for speeding up Sony Tvs.
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It would be great to be able to buy a TV with HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision and HLG support but that's not an option between these two sets.
Are there any large TVs that support all four of those formats?
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^I'm not aware of any at the moment. But it seems kind of inevitable to me that some manufacturer will view this as a competitive advantage and start offering it.
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^I'm not aware of any at the moment. But it seems kind of inevitable to me that some manufacturer will view this as a competitive advantage and start offering it.
I hope you're right.

In the mean time, do you happen to know which ones support 3 of the 4? (Preferably DV, HDR10, and HGL)
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LG seems to support DV, HDR10 and HLG. Samsung does not support DV. Sony... Sometimes all 3. Best to check any set of interest carefully.

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I just replaced my projector with a Samsung UN82NU8000. I couldn't be happier. Black level is low enough. Its a bright room and the TV is bright enough. The reflections are OK on a bright day, but spec'ed as good or better than the Sony. My price was great, enough said, no price talk.


I'm convinced there is a lot of marketing in perceived TV quality.

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I was having the same debate. Looks like the 75” 900F can be had now for ~$2800. I got the 82” Q6FN for $2600. I figured I would appreciate the extra ~20% size (I think I did that math right, taking surface area into account instead of diagonal inches) over the enhanced picture quality in the Sony. It’s going in a dark room with no windows. I’m curious what the OP went with. I’ll update this thread after the TV arrives (about 10 days) and will let y’all know how I like it!
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