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Official Vizio P Series 2018 (P55-F1, P65-F1, P75-F1) Owners Thread

Product Pages:

p55f1
https://www.vizio.com/p55f1.html

p65f1
https://www.vizio.com/p65f1.html

p75f1
https://www.vizio.com/p55f1.html


Reviews:
rtings.com https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/p-series-2018
cnet https://www.cnet.com/reviews/vizio-p75-f1-review/
toms guide https://www.tomsguide.com/us/vizio-p...view-5672.html


Calibration settings:

cnet p65-f1 https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussi...and-hdr-notes/
rtings https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vi...-2018/settings


Finding your build week: My first set was 14.. the replacement is week 30
Sticker on TV 11th and 12th digits U=2018 30=Week 30
System Information in the TV menu First 2 digits


Latest reported firmware: 2.1.7.1


Changelog:

2.1.7.1 (April 2019)

1. Upgraded the internal CAST version to V1.34.149937.

2. Display support for Dolby Vision Low Latency mode.

3. Added SCPL Version and AirPlay version to system menu.

4. Added support for USB continuous playback (looping selected videos).

5. Fixed an issue where the television may infrequently power ON without audio.

6. Fixed a bug in which Game Low Latency mode is turned on after certain HDMI devices that support Full Color 4:4:4 is connected.

7. Fixed an issue in which the television may become unresponsive during a firmware update.

8. Fixed an issue where sources playing 4K HDR content connected to HDMI 5 results in “no signal”.

9. Fixed an issue where video with DTS audio may not be identified when connected to HDMI 5.

10. Fixed an issue in which playback of video from USB flash drive may cause black screen.

11. Revolved an issue in which some Google Assistant devices were not able to send commands to VIZIO TV's.



1.1.17.1

Improvements for Amazon Alexa control

1.1.14.1

Updates:

Fixed the issue of visible video on the PQ65-F1 when the backlight is off and the TV is turned off (standby) for more than 30 minutes.

Fixed an issue for the PQ65-F1 where the screen will flash when changing picture mode.

Fixed an issue of the PQ65-F1 turning on to a black screen and rebooting.

Fixed a no audio issue when a DVD player is powered on and then the TV is powered on.

Fixed an issue for the E65-F1 and P65-F1 of the Color Space setting being grayed out for HDMI inputs.

“Xtreme Black Engine” is renamed to “Active Fully Array”.

Fixed an issue of a connected sound bar powering on when connected to HDMI without any user interaction.

Fixed the issue of picture contouring when Netflix is launched with remote hot key and Dolby Vision content is played.

Improved SDR and HDR performance on the P65-F1.

Resolved an issue where the television will flash once for 5 to 8 seconds after powered on with an HDMI or Component/Composite input signals.

Overall performance improvements.


1.0.21.1

Picture quality improvements for the PQ65-F1.

Peak brightness improvement for the PQ and P series televisions.

Fixed an audio abnormality with analog TV sources.

Fixed an issue of no audio with Component source and set Menu/channels/Parental controls as ON.

Fixed and issue where some P and PQ models would display a V logo, black screen and reboot.

Fixed an issue of severe picture contouring when launching Netflix using the remote hot key while in the Chromecast background.

Overall system improvements



1.0.18.4

1.Enhanced overall and peak brightness performance.
2. Improvements to the picture contrast in SDR and HDR.
3. Picture quality refinements to the default picture modes (i.e. Calibrated picture mode).
4. Support for 4K HDR streaming from Amazon Prime Video on 2018 M-, P-, P-Series Quantum TVs.
5. Overall system improvements


Vizio's site shows all F1 models have a single version:
https://support.vizio.com/s/article/...language=en_US

If you notice any improvements between versions, I'll add that as well.

Reddit forum for Vizio Support
https://www.reddit.com/r/VIZIO_Official/

Let me know if you have any information that may be useful in this first post and I'll add it here

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For anyone looking for the P75-F1, I got mine from Costco.
They still have them listed on their site.

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For anyone looking for the P75-F1, I got mine from Costco.
They still have them listed on their site.
Me Too!.. can't beat the 2 yr warrantee from Costco. + another 2yr if paid with the Costco Citi Bank Visa.
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Have you applied any calibration settings or are you using the out of box settings?

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Picked up a 55” a few weeks ago and am debating returning it. More often than not it will freeze and restart when I try to change inputs to use Amazon Fire TV.
Also curious to know what settings others are using because I haven’t found any I like too much yet.
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Have you applied any calibration settings or are you using the out of box settings?


Only used the rtings settings. Have no choice at the moment til calibrater start posting. The out of the box settings has been pretty good. 100x better that the stock settings on my 2014 P70.



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I picked up a P55 last night after going through 3 different TCL R615’s with faulty panels. The Vizio P destroys the TCL in every aspect other than peak brightness.

So far so good for the most part. The uniformity is near perfect. Trying to stream VUDU my network would disconnect every 5 minutes or so. I have it connected via ethernet to a gigabit network. Never had issues with any TV before. After unhooking the Ethernet and using 5ghz I no longer had any disconnect issues.

Other than that, the only other issue is the auto-brightness setting will randomly toggle itself back on and I have to manually turn it off again. The picture is just stunning out of the box. I haven’t felt the urge to touch any settings yet other than black detail and local dimming. I did turn de-judder up to +2. UHD blu-rays are smooth as silk.
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My P55 arrived this morning. I ended up with this set after my 3 year old Sony 850C 55" was replaced after being deemed unrepairable. My initial choice for a warranty replacement was an LG SK8000 65". But I was completely unimpressed with that one. So I exchanged it for the Vizio P55.

My initial impressions are extremely good. This set has an amazing picture. I threw some quick setting tweaks from rtings and tried out a few 4k discs. Planet Earth 2 and Martian were stunning. Wonder Woman and Valerian really popped. Even 1080i Dish source looked much better than I am used to. I'm probably going to download some other good HDR source material to see how it looks.

I know I have seen there are posts in the other 2018 Vizio thread from those who had problems. I didn't dig deep enough into that thread to see what the different issues were. Hoping I don't have any myself.

And I will add I'm seriously considering swapping this one for the 65". The week with the bigger LG kind of spoiled me. And as amazing as this picture is I can imagine the wow factor of it in a 65".


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I have had my P65 for about a month and a half now. After a week of playing around with settings I have to say that my viewing experience has been nothing short of fantastic. I have been very happy with Blu ray presentation and 4k Blu ray presentation. Not a single issue so far. I basically use it for Movies / Netflix / Amazon / YouTube.


Blacks are great yet not perfect but about as close as you can get with a non OLED. Colors are beautiful and vibrant.


Again no issues so far.
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I have had my P65 for about a month and a half now. After a week of playing around with settings I have to say that my viewing experience has been nothing short of fantastic. I have been very happy with Blu ray presentation and 4k Blu ray presentation. Not a single issue so far. I basically use it for Movies / Netflix / Amazon / YouTube.


Blacks are great yet not perfect but about as close as you can get with a non OLED. Colors are beautiful and vibrant.


Again no issues so far.
Mind sharing what your settings are like?
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Picked up a 55” a few weeks ago and am debating returning it. More often than not it will freeze and restart when I try to change inputs to use Amazon Fire TV.
Also curious to know what settings others are using because I haven’t found any I like too much yet.
Moved gamma to 2.4 on Calibrated Dark and I’m much happier with the PQ.
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I just placed my order for a P75-F1 on BB.com. It should be here next Wednesday.

So Excited!!!
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Just picked up the P65-F1 as a replacement for the faulty E1 i had from Costco....

Now I'm hoping this isn't an issue but I think I'm cursed when it comes to new TV's. Below are the flat pattern tests. Look in the corners...seems they aren't working.....appears like a shadow in every corner.....SMH

Should i hold off taking it back?? Or is this real issue with the panel?

This could kill my relationship with Vizio.
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Just picked up the P65-F1 as a replacement for the faulty E1 i had from Costco....

Now I'm hoping this isn't an issue but I think I'm cursed when it comes to new TV's. Below are the flat pattern tests. Look in the corners...seems they aren't working.....appears like a shadow in every corner.....SMH

Should i hold off taking it back?? Or is this real issue with the panel?

This could kill my relationship with Vizio.
The dimming of the corners (vignetting) is extremely common with VA panels. Mine looks just like yours. I barely notice it myself. If you aren’t happy with it, an exchange won’t help you. You’ll have to test your luck with a different brand.
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Should the backlight be left at 50 for HDR10, or bumped up to 100? I know Dolby Vision takes control of it and it should stay at 50, but when playing an HDR10 video, the default value is also 50. I can’t find basic settings on any review site. Rtings HDR settings don’t go into any detail and CNET didn’t post there’s like they did for other TV’s, at least I couldn’t find them.
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Finally an owners thread. Aside form very very rare blooming in some scenes I am extremely happy with my 55". Before this TV I went through four TCL 6 Series sets, all of them had issues with banding and DSE.
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Thanks, just never seen this before on my other units. Will see how kick it bothers me tonight before deciding to return or not...then the process of finding another TV...ughhhh
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My test pattern with backlight at 85 on Calibrated mode. Seems pretty similar? Click image for larger version

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My test pattern with backlight at 85 on Calibrated mode. Seems pretty similar? Attachment 2433764


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What size is that TV?
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Mind sharing what your settings are like?

I do nothing fancy at all. I just kept playing around with each setting until I found something visually pleasing. I tried using the rtings.com settings but thought it was much too dark... Even though my theater room can be completely dark, it is smaller so the light of the tv makes the room. I also make sure that my 4k Sony blu ray player is on Auto (I have to click on auto again if I play a regular Blu ray because even if it says its on auto it comes in way too dark. Its like its still stuck on theater mode from playing the Blu ray) So clicking it sort of restarts it and give the proper brightness.

My backlight is at 70 and my brightness is at 48. I have not messed with White Balance and Color Space Settings since resetting after the messing with the rtings settings. If you are still interested I will post the rest of it.
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Just picked up the P65-F1 as a replacement for the faulty E1 i had from Costco....

Now I'm hoping this isn't an issue but I think I'm cursed when it comes to new TV's. Below are the flat pattern tests. Look in the corners...seems they aren't working.....appears like a shadow in every corner.....SMH

Should i hold off taking it back?? Or is this real issue with the panel?

This could kill my relationship with Vizio.
Unfortunately that’s normal with FALD sets. It’s not just Vizio.
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Should the backlight be left at 50 for HDR10, or bumped up to 100? I know Dolby Vision takes control of it and it should stay at 50, but when playing an HDR10 video, the default value is also 50. I can’t find basic settings on any review site. Rtings HDR settings don’t go into any detail and CNET didn’t post there’s like they did for other TV’s, at least I couldn’t find them.
I have found for HDR content you should use Calibrated for daytime / bright room conditions and Calibrated Dark for nighttime / dark room conditions. Leave the backlight at the default setting which I believe is 50 for both DV and HDR. This ensures you get the most accurate picture. Normal color temperature. Xtreme Black Engine should be set to Medium. I have Black Detail set to off and any noise reduction set to off along with Sharpness 0

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Owner of a P65. I am very pleased with the display, primarily I use the TV as a computer monitor, maybe I just got lucky but there is very little DSE on my panel especially when compared to my TCL 55 P series from 2017.




For settings I would recommend backlight at 80 and black engine on low. (I found on medium I noticed strange artifacts and sometimes thought I saw the zones changing.)

I use computer color temperature with 58 color, everything else is default for computer settings

I found these to be the best settings for my use
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For those of you interested in what Vizio recommends for the best picture quality here you go

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Should the backlight be left at 50 for HDR10, or bumped up to 100? I know Dolby Vision takes control of it and it should stay at 50, but when playing an HDR10 video, the default value is also 50. I can’t find basic settings on any review site. Rtings HDR settings don’t go into any detail and CNET didn’t post there’s like they did for other TV’s, at least I couldn’t find them.
I have found for HDR content you should use Calibrated for daytime / bright room conditions and Calibrated Dark for nighttime / dark room conditions. Leave the backlight at the default setting which I believe is 50 for both DV and HDR. This ensures you get the most accurate picture. Normal color temperature. Xtreme Black Engine should be set to Medium. I have Black Detail set to off and any noise reduction set to off along with Sharpness 0

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Thank you for the response. Do you know why it is that most recommend black engine to medium? I ran the local dimming test video on YouTube and black engine on “high” keeps the white circle much brighter than it does on medium. Seems like it would be better for bright HDR highlights. Assuming it’s because it’s too aggressive and crushes blacks, wouldn’t turning up “black detail” remedy that?
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I've been enjoying the picture on calibrated with 2.4 gamma and black engine on low. this for xfinity 1080p SDR material.
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Thank you for the response. Do you know why it is that most recommend black engine to medium? I ran the local dimming test video on YouTube and black engine on “high” keeps the white circle much brighter than it does on medium. Seems like it would be better for bright HDR highlights. Assuming it’s because it’s too aggressive and crushes blacks, wouldn’t turning up “black detail” remedy that?
I believe if you set the Black Engine to medium you are getting the brightest highlights on screen while minimizing blooming and preserving black levels whereas on high you will lose black detail and see more blooming.

Turning on black detail does the opposite of what you want, it raises black levels to supposedly make shadows brighter, I find it does very little so I leave it off

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I've been enjoying the picture on calibrated with 2.4 gamma and black engine on low. this for xfinity 1080p SDR material.
For SDR content Vizio does recommend Xtreme Black Engine Pro set to low in Calibrated Dark picture mode. I have been thinking of switching to 2.4 Gamma since my room is completely dark at night except for my bias lighting

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One thing that isn't obviously clear with this TV for those of us who are slower than average is that the TV automagically detects SDR / HDR content.

What this means is even though you have selected Calibrated mode, if you play SDR content your default backlight will be 85. When you play HDR content (ie. HDR10, Dolby Vision, HLG) the backlight defaults to 50 in the same picture mode. If you make changes to Calibrated picture mode in HDR it doesn't seem to carry over to SDR so you have to keep adjusting your picture modes in SDR and HDR until you have covered the different dynamic ranges and made the desired changes.

Personally I use a combination of the Vizio recommendations with the Rtings recommendations. I leave all Noise reduction off, I also have sharpness set to 0. I leave all motion enhancement off. The only thing I have on is Clear Action On as I'm apparently really used to my Plasma so I don't even notice any flicker. Others reported being sensitive to the flicker introduced by BFI and preferred Judder reduction set to 1 and motion blur set to 1. I find the soap opera effect those two introduce to be very distracting. I prefer Clear Action and especially for sports it makes the motion look like my Plasma which I love. Tracking the ball in the world cup across the screen was wonderful.

Keep in mind these are all just recommendations and until we don't get some professional calibrators to provide us with guidance I tend to believe Vizio probably knows the most accurate picture settings for their TV.

I have a P65-F1 and have had it for over a month and I absolutely love it. I feel I got the best TV for the money. My only regret is not going for the P75-F1 although in the other thread there seems to be a lot of reports of issues with the P75-F1 as far as the FALD zones being visible

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